ALL VACCINES WILL KILL YOU - The evidence is overwhelming

[Red Phoenix]

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

All a bunch of anti-vaxers that no one's ever heard of, and have no standing or credibility whatsoever in  the field of public health or vaccines. 

But that's what we've come to expect from this particular poster.

If there was ANY truth to what's being claimed, does anyone really think it would only be being reported by a bunch of nobody anti-vaxers..... Please!!!

 

Sadly nowadays, doctors and truth-seekers that have no standing or credibility whatsoever in  the field of public health or vaccines is almost a testimony for their honesty and integrity.  

ViroLIEgy and Vaccinalogy are the ultimate quackery.

I re-post below a scathing rebuttal of the lies which those frauds have been feeding us for decades.

Note that on request of the Mods I have removed the vulgarities.  The message is strong enough that it can stand without the need for strong language.  

Enjoy it while rolling up your sleeve for yet another booster...

 

[Mark Nothing]

 

So why do we keep vaccinating if the data is so overwhelmingly negative?  Many of the natural healing books quote the Holy Bible for the reason why.

 

A repeating concept is the people falling prey to false theories of a charismatic false idol and being punished severely.  Over and over.   Those in charge figure they might as well profit from the gullibilty of the those susceptible.  Afterall, they are going to do it anyway. And it worked fantasically well for profit.  But eventually the people wisen up and learn the truth about how to maintain perfect health and a fully functioning strong human body.  Until the next generation.

 

And what is that truth to health?  Interestingly enough it involves proceeding to the realm where the power is.  Your mind and how you use it.  The invisible realm which preceeds the physical.  Moses in the book of Exodus 15:26 wrote those who use their mind correctly will avoid the diseases placed on those who don't.  Assuming clean water, sanitation, poison free pesticides on farm food.

 

They actually want us to catch on to the truth and are doing everything possible to get us to figure it out.  Including shutting down the world for years.  

 

 

[Magictoad]

12 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Okay, no more pussyfooting, here the blunt in-your-face truth supported by overwhelming factual evidence:

ALL VACCINES WILL KILL YOU

 

 

…not only is there not a single vaccine that is safe, effective, or in any way necessary, but they will all harm you in varying degrees over time; to wit:

 

 

And autism is a particularly devastating vaccine adverse event that drains entire families of resources and generational wealth. 

 

 

What are the odds of triplets all coming down with autism at the same exact time right after getting their poison childhood vaccines?

 

If Bobby Kennedy and his HHS do not commence the process of stripping all of the liability protections for the entire vaccine schedule by September, then we may need to rethink the entire MAHA movement. In the meantime, Kennedy needs all of our support as he not so much investigates the cause of autism — he full well knows already — but finally publicly admits that which has been so painfully obvious to anyone paying even a scintilla of attention…

 

> The above is a shortened intro-text by 

to the article by Jeffrey A. Tucker from the Brownstone Institute on Vaccines and autism (to be rendered in another thread).  

 

Citation:

https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/all-vaccines-will-kill-you-vaccines

https://vaccinechoicecanada.com/

https://www.midwesterndoctor.com

https://chd.tv/

 

 

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Stop this nonesense. 

[Magictoad]

16 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Sadly nowadays, doctors and truth-seekers that have no standing or credibility whatsoever in  the field of public health or vaccines is almost a testimony for their honesty and integrity.  

ViroLIEgy and Vaccinalogy are the ultimate quackery.

I re-post below a scathing rebuttal of the lies which those frauds have been feeding us for decades.

Note that on request of the Mods I have removed the vulgarities.  The message is strong enough that it can stand without the need for strong language.  

Enjoy it while rolling up your sleeve for yet another booster...

 

It's rubbish 

[BritManToo]

27 minutes ago, FolkGuitar said:

I guess you must mean except for the current Measles problem and the three children who died from it so far?

Menonites, a sketchy cult, who knows how healthy they are and what water they're drinking?

[Magictoad]

The anti vax propaganda comes mainly from Americans who as we know will believe anything.

Growing up in England as a child in the 50s I saw children and adults pitifully damaged by Polio, they were struggling in leg irons and leather straps. Now WE DO NOT SEE POLIO VICTIMS ANYMORE. Thanks to the polio vaccine introduced in the middle of the last century. I, & my generation were a beneficiary of that vaccine. We no longer have to live in fear of Polio. There are countless other illnesses that vaccines have saved us from, Measles, Diphtheria & countless others including Hepatitis, the vaccine for hepatitis AKA Jaundice was not invented until recently- certainly after my trip to India in in 1973 where I caught Hepatitis in Kashmir. There are now four different types of Hepatitis

If you are thinking of travelling to India for any length of time you should consider getting an anti Hepatitis jab for sure. Ignore these looney anti vaxers. They are lost souls polluting this forum with their ignorance.

[Magictoad]

11 hours ago, WorriedNoodle said:

No pussyfooting here either, some people are absolute morons.#livingproof

Total BS

[KannikaP]

1 hour ago, Pouatchee said:

 

He just doesnt get it...

So please tell me, if I have had Chicken Pox, my immune system will have built up anti-bodies against getting it again, or Shingles, which is the same virus or whatever.

If I have not had Chicken Pox, but had the vax, is that not the same?

Yes or no.

[johng]

3 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

If I have not had Chicken Pox, but had the vax, is that not the same?

 

Natural immunity from getting it then recovering is generally regarded as better.

[KannikaP]

1 minute ago, johng said:

 

Natural immunity from getting it then recovering is generally regarded as better.

But the vax will work just as well, or not?

[Mike_Hunt]

13 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Okay, no more pussyfooting, here the blunt in-your-face truth supported by overwhelming factual evidence:

ALL VACCINES WILL KILL YOU

 

 

…not only is there not a single vaccine that is safe, effective, or in any way necessary, but they will all harm you in varying degrees over time; to wit:

 

 

And autism is a particularly devastating vaccine adverse event that drains entire families of resources and generational wealth. 

 

 

What are the odds of triplets all coming down with autism at the same exact time right after getting their poison childhood vaccines?

 

If Bobby Kennedy and his HHS do not commence the process of stripping all of the liability protections for the entire vaccine schedule by September, then we may need to rethink the entire MAHA movement. In the meantime, Kennedy needs all of our support as he not so much investigates the cause of autism — he full well knows already — but finally publicly admits that which has been so painfully obvious to anyone paying even a scintilla of attention…

 

> The above is a shortened intro-text by 

to the article by Jeffrey A. Tucker from the Brownstone Institute on Vaccines and autism (to be rendered in another thread).  

 

Citation:

https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/all-vaccines-will-kill-you-vaccines

https://vaccinechoicecanada.com/

https://www.midwesterndoctor.com

https://chd.tv/

 

 

= = =

 

I feel like the 2ndsmartest guy in the world is making up his own data. 

[Red Phoenix]

1 minute ago, KannikaP said:

But the vax will work just as well, or not?

No it is NOT, look it up > immunity acquired by your body overcoming the infection is vastly superior over vax-induced immunity. 

[FolkGuitar]

55 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Menonites, a sketchy cult, who knows how healthy they are and what water they're drinking?

 

I guess that tainted water dripped all the way from Texas to the Canadian border. That must be it.
If you're satisfied with that explanation, I'm happy for you.

[Magictoad]

6 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Your obsession with vaccines seems silly to me.

 

Most people are consuming junk food by the truckload for decades and decades before their bodies finally break down with disease. 

 

That means the human body is incredibly resilient to poison. It can tolerate poisonous foods for decades before finally breaking down.  

 

One vaccine shot of anything won't kill you. If so, we'd all be dead. 

 

Dozens of vaccines won't kill you or me or the idiots spreading the lies about vaccines. Who, BTW are about 12 people. A dozen people are spreading these lies about vaccines using forums like this to spread their toxic filth. The moderators really should stop this kind of damaging propaganda just as they would ban racism.

[josephbloggs]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

In 1998 I was indirectly involved in making a documentary for Channel 4 about the dangers of MMR vaccines, our lead interviewee was the current director of Great Ormand street children's hospital in London.

 

No one's ever heard of this because while I was standing in the doorway to the editing suite, a man from the ministry walked in with a D notice, this documentary will not be broadcast as it is against the public interest.

So if it was in 1998 it would have been based on the claims of Andrew Wakefield, right? He claimed a link between the MMR jab and austism. He said parents should not give their children the MMR jab because of this risk but instead give separate vaccines (that he could recommend).

Problem 1: he had a study group of 12 children. Too tiny to be meaningful in any way shape or form.
Problem 2: it was mostly anecdotal evidence.
Problem 3: It turned out he was being paid by lawyers who were preparing a lawsuit against the MMR vaccine manufactures.
Problem 4: He had personally filed a patent for a rival vaccine.
Problem 5: No other scientist could replicate his findings. At all.

It was a monumental fraud.

Maybe when this came to light it was when your documentary was pulled as it was full of lies, holes, and conflict of interest and could therefore not go out to the public. I am sure the documentary makers had good intentions, just as Private Eye magazine did as they picked it up and I have the utmost respect for that publication. It eventually turned on Wakefield as did the medical establishment once his fraud came to light.

It should also be noted that when his claims came to light people were genuinely concerned - who wouldn't be? As a result public confidence in the MMR vaccine plummeted as did usage, far below the 95% mark generally needed for herd immunity (some reports say as low as 80%). Weirdly enough this led to outbreaks of measles, hospitalisations and deaths from what was previously a very well controlled disease.

Finally, The Lancet fully retracted his paper. The General Medical Council found him guilty of serious professional misconduct and struck him off the medical register. He can no longer practice medicine in the UK.

Yes, I followed this case closely firstly in Private Eye, but it was all a fraud. Your documentary was pulled because it was false and the production company (and broadcaster) would have been sued to oblivion. Good intentions in the investigation, but no way could it be broadcast once the fraud came to light.

I hope that helps explain it for you.

[Magictoad]

MEASLES WARNING TO THE USA

Without a 5% higher measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccination rate, measles may revert to endemicity in the United States within 25 years, while a 10% decline in vaccination could lead to 11.1 million cases of the highly contagious illness in that timeframe, according to predictions from a simulation model published today in JAMA. 

[Magictoad]

17 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

No it is NOT, look it up > immunity acquired by your body overcoming the infection is vastly superior over vax-induced immunity. 

Oh BS..IF you If if if if you get natural immunity. The alternative is you DIE or get crippled 

[Jim Blue]

11 hours ago, JackGats said:

I've had more vaccines than you've had hot dinners. I should be long dead by now.

Jack you didn't get the hot dinner vaccs ?Better stay safe and not go out for a while !

[VocalNeal]

22 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

No it is NOT, look it up > immunity acquired by your body overcoming the infection is vastly superior over vax-induced immunity. 

 

Maybe but many illnesses on the list leave one with disfiguring skin marks or in , say, polio worse long lasting disfigurements. 

[gamb00ler]

14 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

not only is there not a single vaccine that is safe, effective, or in any way necessary, but they will all harm you in varying degrees over time; to wit:

I am willing to wager that if you're ever unfortunate enough to get bitten by a rabid animal, that you'll be high-tailing it to the nearest clinic dispensing the rabies vaccine.  Without the vaccine the death rate is 100%.

[josephbloggs]

15 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

I am willing to wager that if you're ever unfortunate enough to get bitten by a rabid animal, that you'll be high-tailing it to the nearest clinic dispensing the rabies vaccine.  Without the vaccine the death rate is 100%.

He is already rabid, a rabid anti vaxxer. But your point is good. @Red Phoenix would you go and get your rabies vaccine? Or would you just accept your impending slow, painful and unpleasant death?

[Will B Good]

11 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

I am willing to wager that if you're ever unfortunate enough to get bitten by a rabid animal, that you'll be high-tailing it to the nearest clinic dispensing the rabies vaccine.  Without the vaccine the death rate is 100%.

 

Just finished an eight week course of injections......had no hesitation.

[Pouatchee]

2 hours ago, KannikaP said:

So please tell me, if I have had Chicken Pox, my immune system will have built up anti-bodies against getting it again, or Shingles, which is the same virus or whatever.

If I have not had Chicken Pox, but had the vax, is that not the same?

Yes or no.

 

what is this? i am actually backing you up, or did you not get that?

you commented on this (hotsun's) failed argument

 

Quote

Whats your opinion of the chickenpox vaccine in particular. Not getting chickenpox means you wont be getting shingles

 

and I agreed with you.

[rattlesnake]

4 hours ago, FolkGuitar said:

I guess you must mean except for the current Measles problem and the three children who died from it so far?

 

Hence the term "almost". Three deaths is statistically insignificant, and one of the deceased children is confirmed to have died of respiratory failure as a result of malpractice. The current outbreak is not out of the ordinary, it is just that the media are making it look otherwise for those who are still gullible enough to take what they say at face value without checking information independently.

[rattlesnake]

2 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

So if it was in 1998 it would have been based on the claims of Andrew Wakefield, right? He claimed a link between the MMR jab and austism. He said parents should not give their children the MMR jab because of this risk but instead give separate vaccines (that he could recommend).

Problem 1: he had a study group of 12 children. Too tiny to be meaningful in any way shape or form.
Problem 2: it was mostly anecdotal evidence.
Problem 3: It turned out he was being paid by lawyers who were preparing a lawsuit against the MMR vaccine manufactures.
Problem 4: He had personally filed a patent for a rival vaccine.
Problem 5: No other scientist could replicate his findings. At all.

It was a monumental fraud.

Maybe when this came to light it was when your documentary was pulled as it was full of lies, holes, and conflict of interest and could therefore not go out to the public. I am sure the documentary makers had good intentions, just as Private Eye magazine did as they picked it up and I have the utmost respect for that publication. It eventually turned on Wakefield as did the medical establishment once his fraud came to light.

It should also be noted that when his claims came to light people were genuinely concerned - who wouldn't be? As a result public confidence in the MMR vaccine plummeted as did usage, far below the 95% mark generally needed for herd immunity (some reports say as low as 80%). Weirdly enough this led to outbreaks of measles, hospitalisations and deaths from what was previously a very well controlled disease.

Finally, The Lancet fully retracted his paper. The General Medical Council found him guilty of serious professional misconduct and struck him off the medical register. He can no longer practice medicine in the UK.

Yes, I followed this case closely firstly in Private Eye, but it was all a fraud. Your documentary was pulled because it was false and the production company (and broadcaster) would have been sued to oblivion. Good intentions in the investigation, but no way could it be broadcast once the fraud came to light.

I hope that helps explain it for you.

 

RFK is leading another study on it, in no such dubious conditions. That's good news, isn't it? It should settle the matter.

[rattlesnake]

2 hours ago, Magictoad said:

MEASLES WARNING TO THE USA

Without a 5% higher measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccination rate, measles may revert to endemicity in the United States within 25 years, while a 10% decline in vaccination could lead to 11.1 million cases of the highly contagious illness in that timeframe, according to predictions from a simulation model published today in JAMA. 

 

"May", "could", "according to predictions"… Thanks for the insights, compelling indeed.

[rattlesnake]

1 hour ago, gamb00ler said:

I am willing to wager that if you're ever unfortunate enough to get bitten by a rabid animal, that you'll be high-tailing it to the nearest clinic dispensing the rabies vaccine.  Without the vaccine the death rate is 100%.

 

Post-exposure treatment is a reasonable thing to do indeed in this case, I doubt anyone will deny that.