ALL VACCINES WILL KILL YOU - The evidence is overwhelming

[gamb00ler]

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

 

I encourage you to be less defensive.

 

Post-exposure prophylaxis is not the same thing as "vaccination" in the commonly accepted sense.

 

If @Red Phoenix wants to add any information or correct anything I am saying, he is welcome to, but as far as I am concerned, citing a post-exposure rabies treatment to justify "vaccination" as it exists in 2025 (17 doses injected into babies by the age of 6 months) is a false equivalence fallacy and nothing else.

Actually, it is not precisely "post-exposure".  The recommended timing of receiving the rabies vaccine is post potential exposure.  Most often it is not known if the bite is from an infected animal.  It is most prudent to receive the vaccine ASAP.

[BritManToo]

8 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

I am willing to wager that if you're ever unfortunate enough to get bitten by a rabid animal, that you'll be high-tailing it to the nearest clinic dispensing the rabies vaccine.  Without the vaccine the death rate is 100%.

I always thought of the rabies injection as anti-venom, more antidote than vaccine.

I have no problem taking antidotes if I get poisoned.

 

Are you suggesting we should all get rabies injections in case we encounter a rabid animal?

Once a year, once every five years ..... how often?

 

Back to the topic,

If you believe vaccines work, and protect you from disease, I have no problem with you taking as many as you want, as often as you want. But why the insistence that I take them as well? You've had yours, you're protected, right?

[Red Phoenix]

@gamb00ler > Don't want to play your childish 'Gotcha' game,

But for the record: I agree with what @rattlesnake and @BritManToo wrote in response to your posts. 

Thanks guys for your sensible responses defending my stance
👍

[KannikaP]

9 hours ago, Pouatchee said:

 

what is this? i am actually backing you up, or did you not get that?

you commented on this (hotsun's) failed argument

 

 

and I agreed with you.

Lost in Translation, sorry.

[gamb00ler]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I always thought of the rabies injection as anti-venom, more antidote than vaccine.

I have no problem taking antidotes if I get poisoned.

When you're bitten by a potential rabies infected animal the recommended action is to get the rabies vaccine ASAP.  It is the same preparation given to individuals that are at high risk of being bitten by potentially infected animals.  You can call it whatever you want or think of it however you want, but it is the same material injected (inactive rabies virus).

 

Often the infection status of the animal is unknown but the prudent path is to take the rabies vaccine.  If you wait for rabies symptoms to appear you will not survive.  As an extra precaution sometimes RIG (rabies immune globulin) is also given to give protection immediately as your body will take some time to produce those on its own.

 

If the bite is from an infected animal and the victim insists that they don't want the vaccine, the odds that they will die are 100% if infected.

 

 

[BritManToo]

11 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

When you're bitten by a potential rabies infected animal the recommended action is to get the rabies vaccine ASAP.  It is the same preparation given to individuals that are at high risk of being bitten by potentially infected animals.  You can call it whatever you want or think of it however you want, but it is the same material injected (inactive rabies virus).

 

Often the infection status of the animal is unknown but the prudent path is to take the rabies vaccine.  If you wait for rabies symptoms to appear you will not survive.  As an extra precaution sometimes RIG (rabies immune globulin) is also given to give protection immediately as your body will take some time to produce those on its own.

Sounds a bit like religion to me,

You can't prove there's a god, but you need to attack and vilify anyone that doesn't also believe.

 

But back to rabies,

Why do you want everyone to have MMR vaccine, but not want everyone to have rabies vaccine.

(as there's way more rabies outbreaks than mumps or measles outbreaks in Thailand)

[gamb00ler]

Just now, BritManToo said:

Sounds a bit like religion to me,

You can't prove there's a god, but you need to attack and vilify anyone that doesn't also believe.

Unvaccinated rabies victims will 100% of the time experience the ultimate truth.  It's up to you.

[BritManToo]

7 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

Unvaccinated rabies victims will 100% of the time experience the ultimate truth.  It's up to you.

The topic is about mandated vaccinations for everyone for trivial disease.

Why do you keep deflecting to rabies?

[gamb00ler]

Just now, BritManToo said:

The topic is about mandated vaccinations for everyone for trivial disease.

Why do you keep deflecting to rabies?

The rabies vaccine is a perfect example of vaccination efficacy.  Infected victims always die if unvaccinated.  It is an extreme situation that should enlighten even the weakest thinkers.

[BritManToo]

10 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

The rabies vaccine is a perfect example of vaccination efficacy.  Infected victims always die if unvaccinated.  It is an extreme situation that should enlighten even the weakest thinkers.

But nobody suggests that you give it to every 6 month old baby in the world.

[KhunLA]

22 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

When you're bitten by a potential rabies infected animal the recommended action is to get the rabies vaccine ASAP.  It is the same preparation given to individuals that are at high risk of being bitten by potentially infected animals.  You can call it whatever you want or think of it however you want, but it is the same material injected (inactive rabies virus).

 

Often the infection status of the animal is unknown but the prudent path is to take the rabies vaccine.  If you wait for rabies symptoms to appear you will not survive.  As an extra precaution sometimes RIG (rabies immune globulin) is also given to give protection immediately as your body will take some time to produce those on its own.

 

If the bite is from an infected animal and the victim insists that they don't want the vaccine, the odds that they will die are 100% if infected.

Treating a disease after infection, is a bit different than subjecting yourself to a vaccine that may or may not work. 

 

Or worse, have a higher risk to cause health issues, including death, than they supposedly are taken to prevent said disease, that your immune system more likely will fight on it's own.

 

Rabies prophylaxis after infection is a proven treatment, unlike so many other vaccines.

 

More Apples & Oranges comparisons.  As already stated, you're deflecting.

 

Note the rabies vaccine / prophylaxis, is not on the list in the OP.

[Lacessit]

15 hours ago, BritManToo said:

It's actually not a provable fact.

Most illness is serious ONLY when the patients are starving or have no access to clean water.

If you look at the stats for disease victims, they always try to include the 3rd world and particularly Africa.

Almost no unvaccinated disease deaths happen in the western world to the healthy, well fed population.

There were over 1.2 million COVID deaths in the USA. Many had associated co-morbidities.

 

I really doubt a nation with 40% obesity can be described as healthy.

[BritManToo]

7 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

There were over 1.2 million COVID deaths in the USA. Many had associated co-morbidities.

 

I really doubt a nation with 40% obesity can be described as healthy.

So force fat old people to have the vaccine.

Why insist teens and people in their 20s have it?

 

Obviously the more people you press into having it, the more profits are made.

Nobody gives a poop about people's health, they only care about profit.

Make big pharma provide all vaccines free of charge to everyone in the world that wants them, and see what happens.

[KhunLA]

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

So force fat old people to have the vaccine.

Why insist teens and people in their 20s have it?

Or infants & children.  Especially when those under the age of 50, have low risk of death when infected with covid.  Actually, everyone has a low risk of death, after infected with covid.

 

Covid deaths by age (USA)

 

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/

[cjinchiangrai]

On 4/25/2025 at 8:29 AM, hotsun said:

Whats your opinion of the chickenpox vaccine in particular. Not getting chickenpox means you wont be getting shingles

I just got the Shingles vaccine yesterday. The chickenpox sucked and I do not want to do it again. I also got the dengue jab because I do not want to do dengue ever. I am still alive enjoying my coffee so I guess this thread is just more anti-vax lies.

[hotsun]

1 minute ago, cjinchiangrai said:

I just got the Shingles vaccine yesterday. The chickenpox sucked and I do not want to do it again. I also got the dengue jab because I do not want to do dengue ever. I am still alive enjoying my coffee so I guess this thread is just more anti-vax lies.

Yes i had dengue before, and would much rather have had the vaccine than experience that

[BritManToo]

8 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

I just got the Shingles vaccine yesterday. The chickenpox sucked and I do not want to do it again. I also got the dengue jab because I do not want to do dengue ever. I am still alive enjoying my coffee so I guess this thread is just more anti-vax lies.

But you're not 6 months old and will probably be dead in the next ten years no matter how hard you abuse your body.

[hotsun]

Just now, BritManToo said:

But you're not 6 months old and will probably be dead in the next ten years no matter how hard you abuse your body.

Be more positive about it and you may live to 90 who knows

[Harrisfan]

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

But you're not 6 months old and will probably be dead in the next ten years no matter how hard you abuse your body.

But he's a lefty. They don't do fun.

[Lacessit]

12 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

So force fat old people to have the vaccine.

Why insist teens and people in their 20s have it?

 

Obviously the more people you press into having it, the more profits are made.

Nobody gives a poop about people's health, they only care about profit.

Make big pharma provide all vaccines free of charge to everyone in the world that wants them, and see what happens.

"Nobody gives a poop about people's health, they only care about profit"

 

I guess I can include tobacco , liquor and fast food companies in that statement.

 

Vaccines work for me. If they don't for you, I'm happy to let Darwin do the sorting.

 

If you lived,as I did, during a time when the thought of polio terrorized every parent, you would not be making dumb statements about 20 year olds.

[cjinchiangrai]

7 minutes ago, hotsun said:

Yes i had dengue before, and would much rather have had the vaccine than experience that

My father in law had it a few years ago. No way do I want to go through that. He pulled through but far too many do not. My wife got it too and did not have to think hard about it. She also got the flu jab before school starts again. Also an easy choice.

[hotsun]

Just now, cjinchiangrai said:

My father in law had it a few years ago. No way do I want to go through that. He pulled through but far too many do not. My wife got it too and did not have to think hard about it. She also got the flu jab before school starts again. Also an easy choice.

I didnt know anything about it when i got it. I stayed in bed for a week but probably shouldve went to the hospital. Bones hurt, very scary. The youngest someone can get the vaccine is 9 i think, wish it could be earlier