Popular Post Social Media Posted 14 hours ago Popular Post Posted 14 hours ago Tragic Missteps: New Report Reveals Critical Errors Behind Black Hawk and Jet Collision That Killed 67 A devastating new report has unveiled the fatal missteps that led to the collision between a Black Hawk helicopter and an American Airlines passenger jet, killing 67 people. The investigation found that Army Black Hawk pilot Capt. Rebecca Lobach did not comply with critical directions to alter her course seconds before the fatal incident. On the night of January 29, Capt. Lobach was undergoing her annual flight evaluation, with Chief Warrant Officer 2 Andrew Loyd Eaves serving as her instructor. According to details published by The New York Times, Lobach made several critical errors, including flying the Black Hawk too high and failing to heed advice from both air traffic control and her co-pilot moments before the crash. The crew was first alerted to the presence of an approaching aircraft during the evaluation flight. Despite acknowledging the proximity of the plane and spotting it visually, Lobach and Eaves requested to continue under "visual separation," a procedure that relies on pilots using their own observations to maintain a safe distance rather than strictly following air traffic control directions. Aviation experts noted, "The request to fly under those rules is granted routinely in airspace overseen by controllers. Most of the time, visual separation is executed without note. But when mishandled, it can also create a deadly risk — one that aviation experts have warned about for years." Fifteen seconds before the crash, air traffic control instructed the Black Hawk crew to turn left. Co-pilot Eaves reiterated the instruction directly to Lobach, telling her, according to the report, that "he believed that air traffic control wanted them to turn left, toward the east river bank." Nevertheless, Lobach did not make the turn, a decision that the report concluded "would have opened up more space between the helicopter and Flight 5342" if she had complied. Instead, tragedy struck as the helicopter and the jet collided, killing all 67 people aboard both aircraft. Lobach, an aviation officer from Durham, North Carolina, had accumulated around 500 hours of flight time and had previously served as a White House military social aide during the Biden administration. The investigation also revealed that a critical step was missed that night. According to Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) regulations, pilots must be explicitly informed if two aircraft are on a collision course. Experts concluded that "immediate intervention was needed" but did not occur, noting, "Direct, immediate intervention was needed that night. Instead of seeing and avoiding Flight 5342, Captain Lobach continued flying straight at it." Why Lobach failed to act remains a mystery. Investigators theorize that she may have been "blindsided" by the American Airlines flight’s maneuvering, specifically its "circling" of Runway 33—a crucial detail the Black Hawk crew may not have heard. It is believed that both pilots might have been pressing the microphone key while this information was transmitted. "If the key is depressed, the pilot can speak but not hear incoming communications," the report explained. There is no indication that Lobach experienced a medical emergency during the crash, and no pre-existing health issues were identified, according to those close to her and the investigation. Further complicating the situation, earlier findings from February indicated that the Black Hawk's altitude readings might have been inaccurate moments before the crash. NTSB Chair Jennifer Homendy explained that the helicopter’s crew missed critical instructions because a radio transmission "was stepped on," preventing them from hearing the words "pass behind the" during a crucial communication exchange. "At 8:47:42 — or 17 seconds before impact — a radio transmission from the tower was audible on both CVRs directing the Black Hawk to pass behind the CRJ," Homendy stated. The Black Hawk was conducting a check flight that night, and the crew were using night vision goggles throughout the mission. Investigators believe the goggles remained on until the collision. It was also discovered that the helicopter’s Automatic Dependent Surveillance–Broadcast (ADS-B) system was turned off for "no compelling reason," as Sen. Ted Cruz had previously told The New York Times. This system would have provided real-time location, altitude, and speed data, possibly preventing the collision. The American Airlines jet, piloted by 34-year-old Jonathan Campos, was preparing to land after flying from Wichita, Kansas. The jet had adjusted its approach to use a shorter runway at the request of air traffic control, a move confirmed by flight-tracking sites. Just two seconds before the collision, the passenger jet's altitude was recorded at 313 feet. The loss was immense, touching families across the country. Among the passengers were hunters, students and parents from northern Virginia schools, and members of the Skating Club of Boston, who were returning from a development camp following the 2025 U.S. Figure Skating Championships in Wichita. Related Topics: AA’s Diversity Policies Under Fire After Deadly Air Collision Midair Collision Near Reagan National Sends Plane into Potomac River Adpated by ASEAN Now from Daily Mail 2025-04-29 1 1 1
Popular Post deadbeat Posted 12 hours ago Popular Post Posted 12 hours ago Another dei failure. 2 2 4 1 4
Popular Post mikeymike100 Posted 12 hours ago Popular Post Posted 12 hours ago Why military helicopters were allowed on the the flight path of ;planes near commercial airports, is in itself a mystery! 2 4 2 2 2
greg67 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 4 minutes ago, deadbeat said: Another dei failure. Who? You? 3 1 2 9
Popular Post JonnyF Posted 11 hours ago Popular Post Posted 11 hours ago 2 hours ago, Social Media said: Despite acknowledging the proximity of the plane and spotting it visually, Lobach and Eaves requested to continue under "visual separation," a procedure that relies on pilots using their own observations to maintain a safe distance rather than strictly following air traffic control directions. Bad move. Women don't always have great spatial awareness and they aren't always prepared to listen to instructions either. My girlfriend made a similar, less formal request to continue under "visual separation" (despite my warnings) before reversing over our 6 week old puppy. Fortunately, puppies legs are surprisingly flexible and she eventually made a full recovery. 1 1 2 3 1 3
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted 11 hours ago Popular Post Posted 11 hours ago Well this is a massive failure, either on the part of air traffic control, the helicopter crew, or a third party. I hear that Reagan Airport airspace is incredibly congested, and they should have systems in place to prevent these kinds of occurrences. It never should have happened. 1 2
Popular Post hotsun Posted 11 hours ago Popular Post Posted 11 hours ago A lefty left a laughing emoji on the story 1 2
Presnock Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 14 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: Well this is a massive failure, either on the part of air traffic control, the helicopter crew, or a third party. I hear that Reagan Airport airspace is incredibly congested, and they should have systems in place to prevent these kinds of occurrences. It never should have happened. yeah and based on this latest report, I even wonder why checkout flights were ever allowed in such areas. The pilot obviuosly didn't pay attention to the "turn" and yeah the altitude problem with the helicopter sure didn't help either. 1 1
Tug Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, Presnock said: yeah and based on this latest report, I even wonder why checkout flights were ever allowed in such areas. The pilot obviuosly didn't pay attention to the "turn" and yeah the altitude problem with the helicopter sure didn't help either. Waaaay to congested airspace for check out/training it was an unfortunate tragic incident the sex of the pilot in itself has no bearing or meaning just another horrible accident not the first nor the last. 1 1 1 2
Popular Post Purdey Posted 9 hours ago Popular Post Posted 9 hours ago I bet no one knows how many men have crashed helicopters. 1 1 1
Tug Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Purdey said: I bet no one knows how many men have crashed helicopters. When flying in extremely congested airspace wearing those night vision goggles/ horse binders……but ok go ahead brave men beat up on a dead service member patriot she’s dead so it’s safe …….just sad.I for one grieve ALL the dead am angered they would be flying choppers across the final approach to a busy airport.im certainly not onboard attacking the responsible pilot on account of their sex. 1 1 2
impulse Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 3 hours ago, mikeymike100 said: Why military helicopters were allowed on the the flight path of ;planes near commercial airports, is in itself a mystery! In fairness, they were drilling on evacuating VIP politicians if SHTF under those conditions. Which means practicing in DC, around the DC airport. Because that's where they keep the VIP politicians. Edit: I'd say that I'm surprised that they'd tap a pilot with only 450 hours for that assignment. But she did tick the box. And she had apparently worked directly for Biden. Probably had Dr Jill's seal of approval. Where have we heard that one? 1 1
Popular Post impulse Posted 8 hours ago Popular Post Posted 8 hours ago 36 minutes ago, Tug said: When flying in extremely congested airspace wearing those night vision goggles/ horse binders……but ok go ahead brave men beat up on a dead service member patriot she’s dead so it’s safe …….just sad.I for one grieve ALL the dead am angered they would be flying choppers across the final approach to a busy airport.im certainly not onboard attacking the responsible pilot on account of their sex. I don't know about you, but I want them to take the lessons learned so this NEVER happens again. Even if that reflects poorly on anyone involved, dead or alive. Or on any policy that may have contributed to the death of over 60 innocent people. 1 2 1
Tug Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 3 minutes ago, impulse said: I don't know about you, but I want them to take the lessons learned so this NEVER happens again. Even if that reflects poorly on anyone involved, dead or alive. Or on any policy that may have contributed to the death of over 60 innocent people. +1 on that I just take umbrage at the DEI nonsense attacking someone on account of their sex a horrific tragedy and hopefully lessons learned. 1 1
thesetat Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 4 hours ago, spidermike007 said: Well this is a massive failure, either on the part of air traffic control, the helicopter crew, or a third party. I hear that Reagan Airport airspace is incredibly congested, and they should have systems in place to prevent these kinds of occurrences. It never should have happened. They do have systems in place to prevent these types of incidences. The OP clearly states the woman did not comply with instructions given.. Perhaps she thought she knew better haha... This is what we get when people are forced to include a certain number of DEI into the ranks. 1 1
Tug Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 12 minutes ago, thesetat said: They do have systems in place to prevent these types of incidences. The OP clearly states the woman did not comply with instructions given.. Perhaps she thought she knew better haha... This is what we get when people are forced to include a certain number of DEI into the ranks. Actually the MALE flight engineer was supposed to be a 3rd set of eyes…..tell ya what why don’t you vomit that nonsense to senator Tammie duckworth ehh she would still tear you to pieces even without her legs lost flying combat for our country and I might add her ancestry is Thai…..just sad 😞 1 1
thesetat Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, Tug said: Actually the MALE flight engineer was supposed to be a 3rd set of eyes…..tell ya what why don’t you vomit that nonsense to senator Tammie duckworth ehh she would still tear you to pieces even without her legs lost flying combat for our country and I might add her ancestry is Thai…..just sad 😞 How many women actually listen to a man? Especially in a stress situation. I am sure the air traffic controller was a man also that she was not listening to. She was in control of the craft. It does not matter what anyone else said or did not say. She did not listen or comply with critical instructions which caused the crash killing so many. 1
Watawattana Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 7 hours ago, deadbeat said: Another dei failure. She must have passed her flying exams to the required standard. This was an annual flight evaluation, so she was a qualified pilot. The fact that's she female is irrelevant, there should have been no allowances made to her based on gender (if there was then those accountable should be held to account). If she was incompetent throughout her entire career (and it seems she was incompetent in this instance). There's been no evidence that I've seen of her ongoing incompetence, including not being good enough to get her wings. The investigation will uncover her piloting record and it'll likely become public domain. Aviation accidents usually get looked into in such a depth that pretty much everything and anything will come out. But yeah, I expect there's a a lot in this that if money wasn't wasted on DEI 💩 then all these people would still be with their familes. Money spent on DEI isn't being spent on procedures, training and systems that would have avoided this crash. Money spend on useless layers of management isn't being spent on procedures, training and systems that would have avoided this crash. This was an accident waiting to happen; a completely avoidable accident. Apparently there had been 100s of incidents around this airport that should have been acted upon, but were not, and the procedures were not changed when they should have been. Although it's easy to blame the pilot, I think it's better blame the pilot AND investigate why she was put into this position in the first place. DEI is a convenient excuse, but I'm not swallowing that; the root cause in my opinion is far deeper within the culture of the FAA than just the easy 'out' of blaming the woman. "Safety First" seems not to exist in the FAA. 1
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