frank83628 Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, Olav Seglem said: 50 mill NOT impressive..... But maybe reflect us economy under present administration. And, MOST european countries GIVE ukraine the money, they dont demand doble or triple back 🙂 (Maybe donnie learned from thai money lenders 🙂 Really?. So you think all the other countries gave aid for free? They gave loans with interest, Trump just said it out loud, UK got mining contracts, but hardly any media coverage of it 3
Popular Post newbee2022 Posted 13 hours ago Popular Post Posted 13 hours ago 3 minutes ago, jas007 said: real negotiations with Russia? That's only possible with a Russia which WILL negotiate. I can't see this at present 3
jas007 Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 2 minutes ago, newbee2022 said: That's only possible with a Russia which WILL negotiate. I can't see this at present Sure, but Trump drew Zelenskyy into a deal of sorts, so maybe that's "progress"? Then, threaten Zelenskyy with cutting off further aid unless he concedes to certain of Russia's conditions. Maybe all of them. 1 1
BLMFem Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 3 minutes ago, frank83628 said: Really?. So you think all the other countries gave aid for free? They gave loans with interest, Trump just said it out loud, UK got mining contracts, but hardly any media coverage of it The important thing is that the orcs keep dying, Dmitri. 1 1 1
Dionigi Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 4 hours ago, RuamRudy said: What really matters is that the Ukrainian people expel the invaders and receive justice for the crimes committed against their country. That the US is hovering around like a looter outside a burning building, offering help only if the owner concedes to its extortion, is revolting. If the minerals are in the areas occupied by Russia America will be more interested in removing them.
newbee2022 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 54 minutes ago, jas007 said: Sure, but Trump drew Zelenskyy into a deal of sorts, so maybe that's "progress"? Then, threaten Zelenskyy with cutting off further aid unless he concedes to certain of Russia's conditions. Maybe all of them. Of course there would be peace when Russia has occupied all of Ukraine. And then Donnie's deal is void.
scorecard Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 8 hours ago, fondue zoo said: Is the recent announcement that the US will no longer play the role of an intermediary still in play? It reads like it was decided after this deal was signed. Good question.
jas007 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 7 minutes ago, newbee2022 said: Of course there would be peace when Russia has occupied all of Ukraine. And then Donnie's deal is void. I'm pretty sure Russia doesn't really want to occupy all of Ukraine, and it doesn't have to come to that. At this point, Russia would be happy with what it's already taken, among other demands. 4
Rimmer Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 31 minutes ago, Dionigi said: If the minerals are in the areas occupied by Russia America will be more interested in removing them. A significant portion of Ukraine's valuable mineral resources are located in territories currently occupied by Russian forces. Estimates suggest that up to 70% of Ukraine's mineral wealth, valued at approximately $15 trillion, is situated in regions such as Donetsk, Luhansk, and parts of Zaporizhzhia and Dnipropetrovsk, which are under Russian control or influence . These areas are rich in critical minerals, including lithium, titanium, uranium, graphite, and rare earth elements. Notably, the Shevchenkivske lithium deposit near Donetsk and the Kruta Balka site in Zaporizhzhia are among the most promising lithium reserves, but they are currently inaccessible due to the ongoing conflict .Al Jazeera+2Eurasian Times+2The Moscow Times+2Wall Street JournalDW+3France 24+3The Moscow Times+3 The recent U.S.-Ukraine minerals agreement aims to establish a joint investment fund for Ukraine's reconstruction and to secure access to these critical mineral resources. However, the realization of this deal faces significant challenges, including the fact that many of these mineral-rich areas are under Russian occupation. The development and exploitation of these resources are contingent upon a lasting peace and the restoration of Ukrainian control over these territories .Reuters+2The Washington Post+2Wall Street Journal+2Reuters Ukraine possesses vast mineral wealth, much of it lies in regions currently occupied by Russia, posing substantial obstacles to their development and utilization in the near term. 1 1 "Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast!" Arnold Judas Rimmer of Jupiter Mining Corporation Ship Red Dwarf
Popular Post WDSmart Posted 11 hours ago Popular Post Posted 11 hours ago 2 hours ago, dinsdale said: 4 hours ago, WDSmart said: I support the $50 million in aid, but not requiring Ukraine pay us (the USA) back for that with their minerals. We should be providing the aid without any conditions. 😞 Military aid not humanitarian aid. Aid is aid, whether humanitarian, military, or agricultural. IMO, this aid should have been given without any conditions concerning repayment. 1 2
newbee2022 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 40 minutes ago, Rimmer said: A significant portion of Ukraine's valuable mineral resources are located in territories currently occupied by Russian forces. Estimates suggest that up to 70% of Ukraine's mineral wealth, valued at approximately $15 trillion, is situated in regions such as Donetsk, Luhansk, and parts of Zaporizhzhia and Dnipropetrovsk, which are under Russian control or influence . These areas are rich in critical minerals, including lithium, titanium, uranium, graphite, and rare earth elements. Notably, the Shevchenkivske lithium deposit near Donetsk and the Kruta Balka site in Zaporizhzhia are among the most promising lithium reserves, but they are currently inaccessible due to the ongoing conflict .Al Jazeera+2Eurasian Times+2The Moscow Times+2Wall Street JournalDW+3France 24+3The Moscow Times+3 The recent U.S.-Ukraine minerals agreement aims to establish a joint investment fund for Ukraine's reconstruction and to secure access to these critical mineral resources. However, the realization of this deal faces significant challenges, including the fact that many of these mineral-rich areas are under Russian occupation. The development and exploitation of these resources are contingent upon a lasting peace and the restoration of Ukrainian control over these territories .Reuters+2The Washington Post+2Wall Street Journal+2Reuters Ukraine possesses vast mineral wealth, much of it lies in regions currently occupied by Russia, posing substantial obstacles to their development and utilization in the near term. Thank you that you agree with me
dinsdale Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 33 minutes ago, WDSmart said: Aid is aid, whether humanitarian, military, or agricultural. IMO, this aid should have been given without any conditions concerning repayment. Your opinion os misguided. Do you think the EU has given military aid for free? 1
frank83628 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, BLMFem said: The important thing is that the orcs keep dying, Dmitri. Big thing to say from your keyboard, 1
WDSmart Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 7 minutes ago, dinsdale said: Your opinion os misguided. Do you think the EU has given military aid for free? My opinion is guided by my empathy (wokeness). It doesn't matter what the EU has done. I'm talking about the USA, my country. We should give aid to whoever needs it without expecting to be repaid. Otherwise, it's just another Trump business deal. 😞 1 1 2 2
BLMFem Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 5 minutes ago, frank83628 said: Big thing to say from your keyboard, I can understand why stating a fact is a "big thing" in your eyes, as all you do is posting falsehoods. 1 1 1
LosLobo Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 9 hours ago, fondue zoo said: Is the recent announcement that the US will no longer play the role of an intermediary still in play? It reads like it was decided after this deal was signed. Interesting timing, right? The U.S. just approved $50 million in military aid tied to a resource deal, and then announced it's stepping back from mediating peace talks. So much for promises—no peace in Ukraine on day one, not even by day 100. Meanwhile, cost of living keeps climbing. Promises made, promises... well, you know the rest. US pulls out of mediating between Ukraine and Russia, leaving two sides to discuss peace, official says | The Independent https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-russia-trump-peace-talks-war-b2744049.html
Magictoad Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 6 hours ago, Hamus Yaigh said: Think you meant Russia is in debt. They started this mess. Yeah: f*@? Putin and his Russian troops! 1
Magictoad Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 16 minutes ago, WDSmart said: My opinion is guided by my empathy (wokeness). It doesn't matter what the EU has done. I'm talking about the USA, my country. We should give aid to whoever needs it without expecting to be repaid. Otherwise, it's just another Trump business deal. 😞 Quite right. In WW2 nobody asked for repayment in advance. In fact Britain only finished paying off America very recently. The agreement was made at Yalta after the war had ended. 1
soalbundy Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 6 hours ago, dinsdale said: Jets are not needed (AWACS being an exception). Artillery pieces, shells and air defence systems are way more useful. This deal also means there will be a US presence in Ukraine. If there is then give it a few years and Hollywood will bring out a sentimental tear inducing film about American heroes singlehandedly driving out the Russian invaders. 1
NickyLouie Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 9 hours ago, WDSmart said: I support the $50 million in aid, but not requiring Ukraine pay us (the USA) back for that with their minerals. We should be providing the aid without any conditions. 😞 Yeah,... ummm NO , they can pay USA back with something of value 1 1
ThreeCardMonte Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 10 hours ago, RuamRudy said: What really matters is that the Ukrainian people expel the invaders and receive justice for the crimes committed against their country. That the US is hovering around like a looter outside a burning building, offering help only if the owner concedes to its extortion, is revolting. 300 billion isn’t extortion?
Mike_Hunt Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 10 hours ago, RuamRudy said: Excellent point - rather than the vultures circling Ukraine to see what they can loot, the entire bill should be placed solely on the Russian people. How did that work out after WW1, when reparations crushed Germany? Do you people know anything from history?
Mike_Hunt Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 9 hours ago, jvs said: Imo this is a crucial turning point in the war. The US has to protect their investment in the Ukraine now. It is not because they want to help but to secure their own interest like they have always be doing every where they got involved in a war. Also the announcement by Mark Rutte holds a lot of weight. Putin is not going to like this very much and probably will huff and puff again but not much he can do. China has asked the Ukraine not to bomb Moscow during the parade,thereby admitting the danger. Slave Ukraini! I hope there is a massive drone attack during the parade. 1
jvs Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 34 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said: I hope there is a massive drone attack during the parade. I don't think that is going to happen,Xi will be there.
RuamRudy Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said: How did that work out after WW1, when reparations crushed Germany? Do you people know anything from history? So what are you suggesting? That Russia walks away scot free and Ukraine bears the cost of Russia's actions? 1
MicroB Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 hours ago, NickyLouie said: Yeah,... ummm NO , they can pay USA back with something of value Good job I know you stole that image from someone else. This one isn't even AI. A naked Putin doll. No penis. Butt plug included.
CallumWK Posted 58 minutes ago Posted 58 minutes ago 5 hours ago, jvs said: I don't think that is going to happen,Xi will be there. And what has XI so far done for Ukraine, that warrants they should respect his requests?
MicroB Posted 2 minutes ago Posted 2 minutes ago 14 hours ago, dinsdale said: It is $50 mil but it's not a one off. It's the first of a move toward ongoing support. Its not even aid, but a purchase
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