Does the world need a pope?

[Liverpool Lou]

"Does the world need a pope?"

 

Obviously, the world does not.  Some Catholics do, though.

[saintdomingo]

25 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

But he fell out with Leo X in 1530s over that Aragon woman, starting the Church of England. 

He split with Rome because the Pope would not annul his marriage to Catherine of Aragon. Henry did not introduce any of the Protestant Reformers theology into the Church.

[PuiPuiHarry]

3 hours ago, SunsetT said:

Of course the international pedophile Mafia needs its Godfather.

Better the "international pedophile Mafia"than a "grab-them-by-the-pussy" man, elected to president of the USA

[harryviking]

The world do not need any religion at all! All of it is nonsense and only a way to keep people "under their thumb"! Take a look at the history of the Chatolic church! That is a horror story for hundreds of years!! Incredible evil!! Religion kills! 

[Mason45]

As a son of a devout Glasgow orange man I say F**K the pope.

[Magictoad]

We need a dynamic pope to help with the war on Islam, nobody but Trump can see the danger. Certainly nobody in the UK where we are being flooded

[Mike_Hunt]

No.

[dinsdale]

15 minutes ago, Mason45 said:

As a son of a devout Glasgow orange man I say F**K the pope.

A product of the "orange" in Northern Ireland. The Shankhill Butchers. This is a very disturbing read. Was this in the name of religion? Most won't know about this but I suggest you look it up. 

[Gottfrid]

13 hours ago, short-Timer said:

Do we actually need a pope in today’s world?

No, but the Vatican State need one.

[short-Timer]

The world doesn't need demagogues. 

[BusyB]

14 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

Yeah. well nobody's perfect ?

 

 

You don't have to be anywhere near perfect to know that that kind of perfidy is a pernicious   travesty and abuse of Christ's words about letting little children cum unto him.

[BusyB]

Double post - it wasn't showing as posted when saved.

[BusyB]

ditto

 

[saintdomingo]

2 hours ago, dinsdale said:

A product of the "orange" in Northern Ireland. The Shankhill Butchers. This is a very disturbing read. Was this in the name of religion? Most won't know about this but I suggest you look it up. 

The two sides are of different faiths, but they were not fighting over the real presence in the mass or the efficacy of indulgences. One side sees themselves as Irish and want a 32 county Irish Republic, the other is British and are determined to maintain the Union with the Crown and the status of the six counties of Northern Ireland as an integral part of the United Kingdom.

Why not balance your reading matter with a report of RC/Irish Republican terrorists going into a Protestant Church service and indiscriminately murdering members of the congregation.

Anyway, happy to have been able to provide some education.

Wish I had a quid for every time I've heard some sanctimonious know-nothing talk about them fighting over religion.

[dinsdale]

31 minutes ago, saintdomingo said:

The two sides are of different faiths, but they were not fighting over the real presence in the mass or the efficacy of indulgences. One side sees themselves as Irish and want a 32 county Irish Republic, the other is British and are determined to maintain the Union with the Crown and the status of the six counties of Northern Ireland as an integral part of the United Kingdom.

Why not balance your reading matter with a report of RC/Irish Republican terrorists going into a Protestant Church service and indiscriminately murdering members of the congregation.

Anyway, happy to have been able to provide some education.

Wish I had a quid for every time I've heard some sanctimonious know-nothing talk about them fighting over religion.

Alas you assume. I studied politics at uni under Norman Porter's son also named Norman Porter. A great lecturer, a mentor and a mate. So I guess being sanctimonious on this occasion is something you might apply to yourself.  Can't wait to see your response to this unless of course I've put you firmly in your place and there will be no reply. 

Cheers.

[Patong2021]

1.3 billion members of the Catholic church believe that there should be a Pope. Their religion, their church and their right to have such a person. It is no one else's business to  tell them whether there should be a pope or not.

[AustinRacing]

15 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Does the world need religion? IMHO religion is the biggest crime ever against humanity. Covid-19 comes in second.

More like a scam. 

[jimmybcool]

What's need have to do with it?  They can do whatever they want to in their religion.  And I don't see how having one detracts from addressing other worldly issues.  Weird question.

 

And no I am not Catholic. 

[dinsdale]

11 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

1.3 billion members of the Catholic church believe that there should be a Pope. Their religion, their church and their right to have such a person. It is no one else's business to  tell them whether there should be a pope or not.

1.3 billion people who believe there is an almighty invisible entity and the way to connect to that invisible entity is through the Pope, rosary beads and blessing yourself.

[dinsdale]

9 minutes ago, AustinRacing said:

More like a scam. 

Scams are crimes.

[saintdomingo]

16 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Alas you assume. I studied politics at uni under Norman Porter's son also named Norman Porter. A great lecturer, a mentor and a mate. So I guess being sanctimonious on this occasion is something you might apply to yourself.  Can't wait to see your response to this.

You are the one who asked was this in the name of religion, indicating minimal knowledge of the subject you were speaking of. No idea who Norman Porter was and bully for you for going to Uni, I didn't go I left school at sixteen.

I have been to Belfast and the Shankill many times, though not for some years, so I do have some knowledge and experience.

Hope this does not burst your bubble of assumed superiority.

[dinsdale]

33 minutes ago, saintdomingo said:

You are the one who asked was this in the name of religion, indicating minimal knowledge of the subject you were speaking of. No idea who Norman Porter was and bully for you for going to Uni, I didn't go I left school at sixteen.

I have been to Belfast and the Shankill many times, though not for some years, so I do have some knowledge and experience.

Hope this does not burst your bubble of assumed superiority.

Well I guess times move on. You've probably never heard of Ian Paisley who was a Protestant leader and the leader of the DUP either. No assumed superiority on my part. Simply higher education where for a part I studied the political theory of the Republic of Ireland/Northern Ireland divide. Back to "assumed superiority" my background is blue collar.

p.s. do you know about the Shankhill Butchers? Have you read the book? My guess is probably not.

[saintdomingo]

20 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Well I guess times move on. You've probably never heard of Ian Paisley who was a Protestant leader and the leader of the DUP either. No assumed superiority on my part. Simply higher education where for a part I studied the political theory of the Republic of Ireland/Northern Ireland divide. Back to "assumed superiority" my background is blue collar.

p.s. do you know about the Shankhill Butchers? Have you read the book? My guess is probably not.

Of course I've heard of Paisley and I read the Shankill Butchers book years ago. I am still a member of the three loyal orders so I do know what is what.

And now I need my sleep.

[dinsdale]

14 minutes ago, saintdomingo said:

Of course I've heard of Paisley and I read the Shankill Butchers book years ago. I am still a member of the three loyal orders so I do know what is what.

And now I need my sleep.

Then ask someone who Norman Porter was or simply look it up. You basically accused me of bull<deleted>ting  You were wrong.

[Magictoad]

If the pope will lead us in a fight against Islam and its invasion of our Christian countries: yes then we need one.

[saintdomingo]

18 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Then ask someone who Norman Porter was or simply look it up. You basically accused me of bull<deleted>ting  You were wrong.

I have looked him up. 

You made the comment "about religion", ref violence in Ulster which shows that you have or had no understanding of the situation.

I explained simply the reality of things which you do not seem to have read.

 

 

[Patong2021]

2 hours ago, dinsdale said:

1.3 billion people who believe there is an almighty invisible entity and the way to connect to that invisible entity is through the Pope, rosary beads and blessing yourself.

 

Ok. Who are you to  be so  condescending and dismissive? Their selection of Pope did no harm and provided  comfort to many.  If  Catholics wish to behave in  the ways you describe and hurt no one, it is their right. I would rather someone do their rosary than have a machete rampage through the streets of Manchester.

[gargamon]

[jimmybcool]

1 hour ago, gargamon said:

 

Is there no topic that isn't safe from the mental illness of Trump Derangement Syndrome?

[Magictoad]

Maybe or maybe not but the world's one and a half billion Catholics feel they do. That is a substantial proportion of the population of the world.