Who Gives a Flying Grift?

[amexpat]

20 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

The American people voted for their clown, and correct, they are as sharp as a balloon. 
They don’t care about bribery and corruption, Americans have low moral standards and will do anything they can to win going back to the slave days.

They will never change. They think the clown is winning for their country, the rest of the world see Trump as plundering the country for his own benefit.

But as long as they are happy, that is all that matters. It is not as if they do not know what he was like before they voted for him. 
Their choice.

Yep, all those Americans. Except for the 75 million who voted for Kamala Harris, and so many of those who couldn't or didn't vote. 

[animalmagic]

Tariffs may be emptying your supermarket shelves, but the president is still for sale!

[Colki]

And just to prevent any confusion there is a stipulation in the agreement that states.. .four months prior to the ending of Trumps presidency the plane ownership is to be transferrred to some entity like the Trump Library Trust Foundation that ex presidents seem to establish for some reason.

[Chosenfew]

On 5/12/2025 at 9:05 AM, Lewie London said:

So now Trump’s gettin’ gifted a bloody $400 million jet by the Qatari royal family, yeah? A gold-plated sky palace with leather seats, diamond bog handles, and a minibar that probably stocks MAGA-branded champagne. And the bloke wants to use it as Air Force One. You what? That’s not diplomacy, mate. That’s FIFA levels of grift. At this point he’s not just runnin’ for president for a 3rd term, he’s auditionin’ for the next season of Dubai Bling.

 

They’re callin’ it a “gift to the Air Force,” which is like sayin’ your mate bought your missus a necklace “for the family.” Nah bruv, we all know who’s wearin’ it. But course, Trump’s out here screamin’ “IT’S FREE! A BEAUTIFUL GIFT!” on that bin fire of a social media app he runs, like that makes it less dodgy. Mate, the U.S. Constitution has a thing called the Emoluments Clause. Bit of a clue there. Says you can’t be takin’ gifts from foreign governments unless Congress gives the nod. And last I checked, Qatar weren’t on the PTA.

 

Now I’m no lawyer, but even I know if you’re swannin’ round in a foreign-funded flying mansion while makin’ policy, that’s what we call bribery. You don’t need a Harvard law degree to clock that. It’s like lettin’ a geezer buy you a pint and then pretendin’ it didn’t affect your opinion when he asks for your Netflix password. Except instead of a pint it’s a 747, and instead of Netflix it’s access to the leader of the free world.

 

And don’t think this is just a cheeky perk. This is Trump basically auctionin’ off the White House parking spot. Qatar donates a jet, and what, they get to pick who runs CENTCOM next? It’s corruption in first class. It’s Article II of the Constitution meetin’ Qatari air miles. It’s him doin’ international law violations with in-flight snacks.

 

Bloke down the pub last night, MAGA hat wearin' plonker, bald eagle tattoo on his calf, thinks NATO is a brand of breakfast cereal, tells me, “This just proves how much world leaders respect Trump.” Respect? Mate, they’re takin’ the piss. They’re butterin’ him up like a Christmas turkey with five-star freebies cos they know all you gotta do is flatter him and he’ll give away Alaska. Say he’s got big hands and next thing you know, Qatar’s got a missile base in Florida.

 

And the worst bit? His fans lap it up like it’s the Sermon on the Mount. “It’s a gift! He deserves it!” No mate, he deserves a criminal inquiry and a bus pass. This ain’t leadership. This is what you get when you let a timeshare salesman run a superpower.

 

But fair play, if Trump ever does rolls up to the G7 in his Qatari jet, don’t act surprised when the in-flight safety briefing includes “how to dodge subpoenas while inflight.”

 

[Snackbar]

POTUS is a legal entity Not an oracle

[Thingamabob]

Amazing how some/you people fall for this tactic time and again. Trump nearly always throws in an outrageous comment at the start of any negotiation/discussion in order to stir things up a bit, and catch any opposition off guard. In this case you can be sure he will not be accepting the offer of an aircraft from Qatar. but he will string the Qataris along for a while, maybe picking up some useful info in the process. It will give some of you a further chance to froth and fulminate about how  appalled you are at the behaviour of your President during his second term of office. Meantime, lighten up and enjoy the rest of your day !

[newnative]

    Makes no sense that this jet can, apparently, be ready for Trump to use fairly quickly while Boeing's jets, which they have been working on for years, are still not ready due to all the design changes Boeing has been forced to make and all the requirements demanded of them, such as to withstand a nuclear blast, etc.   I'm curious what exactly will be done with the Qatar jet, other than a paint job.  And, if it is ok for the Prez to fly on this jet, why are we spending billions of tax payer dollars on the very complex Boeing jets?  

[theshu25]

With the new plane,it just proves that pigs can fly.

[metisdead]

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[Red Forever]

9 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Mostly from listening to me? I guess you have trouble comprehending what others write here. Tell me, where do I have low moral standards? I've raised, and still are raising, 6 children. I treat women very well. No cheating, abuse or neglect, including my girlfriend here of over 4 years. I believe in God, treat animals well, and don't purchase women. Also, I don't drive drunk, let alone brag about it here on AN like someone we know. 

 

Jerry Springer shows are stupid entertainment, like many other immoral pop stars, Madonna being one. Pop stars like them are everywhere, including here and in England. Remember Benny Hill? The Sopranos and Breaking Bad are about real life, and people love them, as you can see in the ratings, again, just like your immoral Benny Hill and many comedians from there.

 

I won't make excuses for the mass shootings but Thailand has a lot also, and is slowly catching up in shootings, with intentional homicides higher than the US. 

 

High divorce rates are in a lot of countries, UK not too far behind the US. 2.3 to 1.7. 

 

Your "unnecessary wars" are the reason you're living free now, although some were unnecessary, not all were, as history has proven. 

 

So you don't stay in denial, look at your own countries crime rates and immorality before you judge a country you've never visited, let alone lived in. Every country, including yours, has it's share of nutjobs, pedophiles, perverts and bad politicians. And you're the one who watches Jerry Springer, not I.

When I saw “I believe in God” I could see what was coming.

You compare Benny Hill to “immoral pop stars”! You don’t get out much do ya?

Your imaginary friend in the sky may be able to show you true immorality.

[fredwiggy]

Just now, Red Forever said:

When I saw “I believe in God” I could see what was coming.

You compare Benny Hill to “immoral pop stars”! You don’t get out much do ya?

Your imaginary friend in the sky may be able to show you true immorality.

The third one today assuming I don't get out much. Yes, I've been out much, all of my 68 years. Because you don't believe in God has you prejudiced against those who do? Is Benny Hill a moral character? No, just as many of today's pop stars aren't either. Apples to oranges in the same basket. 

 

I'm going to leave the definition for assumption here, so you and others who read this will take a moment, reflect, read it, and maybe not think you know anyone on any forum at all, let alone enough to assume they don't know about a subject by a reply here. And my friend in the sky might be imaginary to you, but you'll meet him one day, and it might be an eye opener.............

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[Red Forever]

1 hour ago, Thingamabob said:

Amazing how some/you people fall for this tactic time and again. Trump nearly always throws in an outrageous comment at the start of any negotiation/discussion in order to stir things up a bit, and catch any opposition off guard. In this case you can be sure he will not be accepting the offer of an aircraft from Qatar. but he will string the Qataris along for a while, maybe picking up some useful info in the process. It will give some of you a further chance to froth and fulminate about how  appalled you are at the behaviour of your President during his second term of office. Meantime, lighten up and enjoy the rest of your day !

You credit Trump with being tactical !?

[Red Forever]

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

The third one today assuming I don't get out much. Yes, I've been out much, all of my 68 years. Because you don't believe in God has you prejudiced against those who do? Is Benny Hill a moral character? No, just as many of today's pop stars aren't either. Apples to oranges in the same basket. 

 

I'm going to leave the definition for assumption here, so you and others who read this will take a moment, reflect, read it, and maybe not think you know anyone on any forum at all, let alone enough to assume they don't know about a subject by a reply here. And my friend in the sky might be imaginary to you, but you'll meet him one day, and it might be an eye opener.............

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Oh the irony.  Assumption is acceptance of something “as true without question or proof “. Yup, describes exactly your imaginary friend perfectly !

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, Red Forever said:

Oh the irony.  Assumption is acceptance of something “as true without question or proof “. Yup, describes exactly your imaginary friend perfectly !

You assume he's imaginary.

[tubby johnson]

[Lacessit]

10 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

You assume he's imaginary.

You assume he is real, and how do you know what gender should be assigned?

 

AFAIK pure mentalities, assuming they exist, do not have gender.

[fredwiggy]

17 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

You assume he is real, and how do you know what gender should be assigned?

 

AFAIK pure mentalities, assuming they exist, do not have gender.

Why do others join a conversation, expending so much energy trying to convince others God doesn't exist, when believers will believe no matter what you say? Why bother?

[Sorted2024]

Trump is awesome  

[jesimps]

On 5/12/2025 at 9:05 AM, Lewie London said:

So now Trump’s gettin’ gifted a bloody $400 million jet by the Qatari royal family, yeah? A gold-plated sky palace with leather seats, diamond bog handles, and a minibar that probably stocks MAGA-branded champagne. And the bloke wants to use it as Air Force One. You what? That’s not diplomacy, mate. That’s FIFA levels of grift. At this point he’s not just runnin’ for president for a 3rd term, he’s auditionin’ for the next season of Dubai Bling.

 

They’re callin’ it a “gift to the Air Force,” which is like sayin’ your mate bought your missus a necklace “for the family.” Nah bruv, we all know who’s wearin’ it. But course, Trump’s out here screamin’ “IT’S FREE! A BEAUTIFUL GIFT!” on that bin fire of a social media app he runs, like that makes it less dodgy. Mate, the U.S. Constitution has a thing called the Emoluments Clause. Bit of a clue there. Says you can’t be takin’ gifts from foreign governments unless Congress gives the nod. And last I checked, Qatar weren’t on the PTA.

 

Now I’m no lawyer, but even I know if you’re swannin’ round in a foreign-funded flying mansion while makin’ policy, that’s what we call bribery. You don’t need a Harvard law degree to clock that. It’s like lettin’ a geezer buy you a pint and then pretendin’ it didn’t affect your opinion when he asks for your Netflix password. Except instead of a pint it’s a 747, and instead of Netflix it’s access to the leader of the free world.

 

And don’t think this is just a cheeky perk. This is Trump basically auctionin’ off the White House parking spot. Qatar donates a jet, and what, they get to pick who runs CENTCOM next? It’s corruption in first class. It’s Article II of the Constitution meetin’ Qatari air miles. It’s him doin’ international law violations with in-flight snacks.

 

Bloke down the pub last night, MAGA hat wearin' plonker, bald eagle tattoo on his calf, thinks NATO is a brand of breakfast cereal, tells me, “This just proves how much world leaders respect Trump.” Respect? Mate, they’re takin’ the piss. They’re butterin’ him up like a Christmas turkey with five-star freebies cos they know all you gotta do is flatter him and he’ll give away Alaska. Say he’s got big hands and next thing you know, Qatar’s got a missile base in Florida.

 

And the worst bit? His fans lap it up like it’s the Sermon on the Mount. “It’s a gift! He deserves it!” No mate, he deserves a criminal inquiry and a bus pass. This ain’t leadership. This is what you get when you let a timeshare salesman run a superpower.

 

But fair play, if Trump ever does rolls up to the G7 in his Qatari jet, don’t act surprised when the in-flight safety briefing includes “how to dodge subpoenas while inflight.”

What's the problem? He got it for free, declared it and it's being used as Air Force One, saving the US taxpayer millions of dollars. Never look a gift horse in the mouth.

[soalbundy]

On 5/12/2025 at 9:37 AM, newbee2022 said:

Thank you again for this humorous and at the same time sarcastic insight. Trump is a disease as we know and hopefully one day we can visit him in Alcatraz as an inmate.

Your style is exceptional and nobody can compare.

Thank you. ❤️

The worst part was Trump showing his lack of class and dignity, ''IT'S FREE"

[Presnock]

On 5/12/2025 at 9:05 AM, Lewie London said:

So now Trump’s gettin’ gifted a bloody $400 million jet by the Qatari royal family, yeah? A gold-plated sky palace with leather seats, diamond bog handles, and a minibar that probably stocks MAGA-branded champagne. And the bloke wants to use it as Air Force One. You what? That’s not diplomacy, mate. That’s FIFA levels of grift. At this point he’s not just runnin’ for president for a 3rd term, he’s auditionin’ for the next season of Dubai Bling.

 

They’re callin’ it a “gift to the Air Force,” which is like sayin’ your mate bought your missus a necklace “for the family.” Nah bruv, we all know who’s wearin’ it. But course, Trump’s out here screamin’ “IT’S FREE! A BEAUTIFUL GIFT!” on that bin fire of a social media app he runs, like that makes it less dodgy. Mate, the U.S. Constitution has a thing called the Emoluments Clause. Bit of a clue there. Says you can’t be takin’ gifts from foreign governments unless Congress gives the nod. And last I checked, Qatar weren’t on the PTA.

 

Now I’m no lawyer, but even I know if you’re swannin’ round in a foreign-funded flying mansion while makin’ policy, that’s what we call bribery. You don’t need a Harvard law degree to clock that. It’s like lettin’ a geezer buy you a pint and then pretendin’ it didn’t affect your opinion when he asks for your Netflix password. Except instead of a pint it’s a 747, and instead of Netflix it’s access to the leader of the free world.

 

And don’t think this is just a cheeky perk. This is Trump basically auctionin’ off the White House parking spot. Qatar donates a jet, and what, they get to pick who runs CENTCOM next? It’s corruption in first class. It’s Article II of the Constitution meetin’ Qatari air miles. It’s him doin’ international law violations with in-flight snacks.

 

Bloke down the pub last night, MAGA hat wearin' plonker, bald eagle tattoo on his calf, thinks NATO is a brand of breakfast cereal, tells me, “This just proves how much world leaders respect Trump.” Respect? Mate, they’re takin’ the piss. They’re butterin’ him up like a Christmas turkey with five-star freebies cos they know all you gotta do is flatter him and he’ll give away Alaska. Say he’s got big hands and next thing you know, Qatar’s got a missile base in Florida.

 

And the worst bit? His fans lap it up like it’s the Sermon on the Mount. “It’s a gift! He deserves it!” No mate, he deserves a criminal inquiry and a bus pass. This ain’t leadership. This is what you get when you let a timeshare salesman run a superpower.

 

But fair play, if Trump ever does rolls up to the G7 in his Qatari jet, don’t act surprised when the in-flight safety briefing includes “how to dodge subpoenas while inflight.”

from all that I have read about the "presidential aircraft" he would never be able to use it as AF1 anyway as it would need to be given a complete overhaul, new electronics, all kinds of upgrades for security, etc.  Even today, Boeing has not been able after 4 years to finish the upgraded AF1 plane as they are too busy so how could they ever find time to complete a new upgrade on the Qatari gift?  But, it is only worth 400 million while these three visits each have about a billion or more funds for the Trump family.  Until the Supreme Court chanes their ruling on his criminal activity, he will continue to try to push the envelope evey further IMHO.  He is exactly like the old Mafia Dons of yesteryear - which is the era he learned how they got awary with anything they wanted but got super rich and that is all he cares about anyway IMHO

[theshu25]

38 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

The worst part was Trump showing his lack of class and dignity, ''IT'S FREE"

The orange pig has no class or dignity.

[ignore it]

Hmm.

 

Seems I've missed the ranting posts abut the corruption of the prior president.

 

I have to go and check prior posts made during the Biden's administration.

 

But it is nice that there are trivial events for the left leaning types to focus on.

 

 

 

[newnative]

1 hour ago, jesimps said:

What's the problem? He got it for free, declared it and it's being used as Air Force One, saving the US taxpayer millions of dollars. Never look a gift horse in the mouth.

    If only that were true.  Free, my eye.   A news report today says it will cost billions to modify the Qatar jet to be suitable to be Air Force One, and it wouldn't be ready before 2028.  The Boeing jets are supposed to be ready in 2027.  So, why should the American taxpayers pay billions to modify the Qatar jet when the Boeing planes will be ready a year earlier?   Talk about wasteful government!  It would just be duplicating work already in progress, and at a huge cost.  

[thaipo7]

Anyone remember or comment on this?

 

 

[Thingamabob]

19 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

The third one today assuming I don't get out much. Yes, I've been out much, all of my 68 years. Because you don't believe in God has you prejudiced against those who do? Is Benny Hill a moral character? No, just as many of today's pop stars aren't either. Apples to oranges in the same basket. 

 

I'm going to leave the definition for assumption here, so you and others who read this will take a moment, reflect, read it, and maybe not think you know anyone on any forum at all, let alone enough to assume they don't know about a subject by a reply here. And my friend in the sky might be imaginary to you, but you'll meet him one day, and it might be an eye opener.............

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Doesn't make sense.

[amexpat]

18 minutes ago, thaipo7 said:

Anyone remember or comment on this?

 

 

I can't find anything remotely close to this claim anywhere. Please provide evidence. 

 

[jippytum]

Bill Clinton received a hellicopter. Still uses it today. 

[josephbloggs]

23 minutes ago, jippytum said:

Bill Clinton received a hellicopter. Still uses it today. 

You would have a link for the claim, right?

There is no evidence anywhere that he was given a helicopter, much less that he still uses it.

So, where did you get this information that even the US Government doesn't know about. Please tell.

[josephbloggs]

2 hours ago, thaipo7 said:

Anyone remember or comment on this?

 

 

No one commented on it because it didn't happen. Unless you have evidence to suggest otherwise. Evidence, not a meme.