Turns out the Trump-maga and Mao-cultural revolution connection is actually a real thing

[simple1]

13 hours ago, TedG said:

Last week, Trump was a fascist.  Now he is a Maoist.  I'll wager you will invoke Stalin next. 

 

No, that's not what is being said. The OP is talking to authoritarian techniques and changing the World Order which is the path path Trump and his enablers are going down. To quote from the article...

 

As Trump upends the very institutions, alliances, and free trade order that have underpinned America’s global dominance since World War II, some in China are reminded of their own former leader — one who wielded revolutionary zeal to tear down the old world more than half a century ago.

[Bkk Brian]

21 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

No, that's not what is being said. The OP is talking to authoritarian techniques and changing the World Order which is the path path Trump and his enablers are going down. To quote from the article...

 

As Trump upends the very institutions, alliances, and free trade order that have underpinned America’s global dominance since World War II, some in China are reminded of their own former leader — one who wielded revolutionary zeal to tear down the old world more than half a century ago.

The OP is from Chinese commentators only and is pure Chinese propaganda being sucked up by the gullible.

 

[unblocktheplanet]

13 hours ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Trump on your mind 24/7.

 

Harris lost.  Try to cope.

Sure glad I'm here. Aren't you?

[unblocktheplanet]

13 hours ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Trump on your mind 24/7.

 

Harris lost.  Try to cope.

Sure glad I'm here. Aren't you?

[unblocktheplanet]

Sure glad I'm here. Aren't you?

[simple1]

25 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The OP is from Chinese commentators only and is pure Chinese propaganda being sucked up by the gullible.

 

 

I was commenting on Jingthings' thoughts

[TedG]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

 

No, that's not what is being said. The OP is talking to authoritarian techniques and changing the World Order which is the path path Trump and his enablers are going down. To quote from the article...

 

As Trump upends the very institutions, alliances, and free trade order that have underpinned America’s global dominance since World War II, some in China are reminded of their own former leader — one who wielded revolutionary zeal to tear down the old world more than half a century ago.

On come on man.  The entire concept of the thread is a joke. 

[BLMFem]

15 hours ago, TedG said:

Maoism is a political ideology rooted in the communist theories of Mao Zedong, a Chinese revolutionary leader. It's characterized by a focus on peasant-based revolution, the use of guerrilla warfare, and the importance of collective action and self-reliance. Maoism, also sometimes referred to as Marxism-Leninism-Maoism (MLM) or Marxist-Leninist, emphasizes the role of the masses and the need for a revolutionary transformation of society. 

 

This is 100% a leftist ideology.

Another copy and paste from an AI without linking is dishonest and against forum rules.

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

 

I was commenting on Jingthings' thoughts

That's even worse than I thought then. 

[simple1]

57 minutes ago, TedG said:

On come on man.  The entire concept of the thread is a joke. 

 

That's your opinion, but I think valid.

[Jingthing]

So many triggered maga cult members here that have nothing but personal insults.

So predictable!

 

Anyway, to discuss why I originally saw a connection between Maoist cultural revolution and the Maga Trump cult movement, in some ways matching what the CNN article says Chinese are thinking, but more of a smaller subset of that. So I am very fascinated hearing what the Chinese think.

 

So ...

 

This isn't about left vs. right.

Authoritarian regimes from both have many things in common.

Also CULT OF PERSONALITY regimes (both Trump, Mao, and many others in history) also have many things in common regardless of ideology (if any).

Arguably Trumpism isn't really an ideology -- it's about following the leader in whatever he says (which can change 180 degrees in minutes).

 

My main observations --

 

Both the Maoist cultural revolution and Trump maga cult greatly devalue the "elite" more specifically actually real expertise and relevant experience.

 

Witness the most disgusting most unqualified cabinet picks in American history by Trump. Almost all totally unqualified in the area they're supposed to be experts in to an absurd degree. The only qualification needed? Sucking up big time to the leader. Total loyalty to the leader.

 

Project 2025 and DOGE actions and plans to purge the government of actual experts in favor or loyalists with no qualifications. (As above.)

 

As I said in the OP, nobody is saying they are exactly the same. Of course they're not.

Trump is not sending doctors to work in the fields as the Mao big ball boys did. 

 

But I'm convinced the parallels between these two movements are really real and really there. History doesn't repeat itself but it often rhymes.

 

Now I will put on my flak jacket for the barage of mindless insults from the maga cult members here, who are very loud, and who clearly are very much against free speech except if it's Trump worship speech.

[Mad Mustang]

Butt Hurt leftist garbage. Go Trump

[Jingthing]

Just now, Mad Mustang said:

Butt Hurt leftist garbage. Go Trump

I agree withe the Go Trump part.

Go AWAY Trump.

We don't need God King Dictators in the U.S.

[Mad Mustang]

God bless America 😊😊😊😊

[Jingthing]

Just now, Mad Mustang said:

God bless America 😊😊😊😊

Sure thing.

Too bad he has currently blessed us with the worst president in American history.

 

[TedG]

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

So many triggered maga cult members here that have nothing but personal insults.

So predictable!

 

Anyway, to discuss why I originally saw a connection between Maoist cultural revolution and the Maga Trump cult movement, in some ways matching what the CNN article says Chinese are thinking, but more of a smaller subset of that. So I am very fascinated hearing what the Chinese think.

 

So ...

 

This isn't about left vs. right.

Authoritarian regimes from both have many things in common.

Also CULT OF PERSONALITY regimes (both Trump, Mao, and many others in history) also have many things in common regardless of ideology (if any).

Arguably Trumpism isn't really an ideology -- it's about following the leader in whatever he says (which can change 180 degrees in minutes).

 

My main observations --

 

Both the Maoist cultural revolution and Trump maga cult greatly devalue the "elite" more specifically actually real expertise and relevant experience.

 

Witness the most disgusting most unqualified cabinet picks in American history by Trump. Almost all totally unqualified in the area they're supposed to be experts in to an absurd degree. The only qualification needed? Sucking up big time to the leader. Total loyalty to the leader.

 

Project 2025 and DOGE actions and plans to purge the government of actual experts in favor or loyalists with no qualifications. (As above.)

 

As I said in the OP, nobody is saying they are exactly the same. Of course they're not.

Trump is not sending doctors to work in the fields as the Mao big ball boys did. 

 

But I'm convinced the parallels between these two movements are really real and really there. History doesn't repeat itself but it often rhymes.

 

Now I will put on my flak jacket for the barage of mindless insults from the maga cult members here, who are very loud, and who clearly are very much against free speech except if it's Trump worship speech.

 

 

Hey Buddy, if you don’t like insults then start off your post with one.  

[connda]

17 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I started commenting about this long ago.

My feeling that there were similarities (obviously not exactly the same thing!) between the maga movement and Mao's cultural revolution.

I did this long before I had ever heard of or read any political analyst or pundit make that indeed rather controversial connection.

Of course every time I mentioned that here, maga types viciously insulted me personally as they always do when their dear cult leader is presented in any kind of negative way.

Well, my oh my, it turns out in recent months I started to hear the same thing on other media from various commentators.

And now this.

 

Many people in CHINA of all places, and they would know, are most definitely and clearly seeing the connection. 

 

In China, some see the ghost of Mao as Trump upends America and the world | CNN

 

Hong KongCNN — 

Ding Xueliang spent his early teenage years in China as a fervent believer and practitioner of Chairman Mao Zedong’s revolutionary ideals — but he never imagined those memories would one day be stirred by a sitting US president.

In 1966, at just 13 years old, the son of poor farmers became one of Mao’s Red Guards. He joined millions of young people across China to participate in the Cultural Revolution, a decade-long upheaval set off by an aging Mao to reassert his absolute control over the ruling Communist Party – with the stated goal of preserving communist ideology.

Nearly six decades later, Ding is a distinguished scholar of Chinese politics based in Hong Kong, with a PhD from Harvard and a career teaching about the catastrophic movement he embraced.

But in recent months, he has begun to see uncanny echoes of Mao’s Cultural Revolution in an unexpected place: Donald Trump’s America.

So Trump isn't Hitler anymore, he's Mao.  I'm sure he'll be Stalin soon enough.

[EVENKEEL]

The sad thing is the democrats still haven't figured out why Trump won.

 

8 plus yrs of demonizing Trump.  How's that working out?

[TedG]

10 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

So many triggered maga cult members here that have nothing but personal insults.

So predictable!

 

Anyway, to discuss why I originally saw a connection between Maoist cultural revolution and the Maga Trump cult movement, in some ways matching what the CNN article says Chinese are thinking, but more of a smaller subset of that. So I am very fascinated hearing what the Chinese think.

 

So ...

 

This isn't about left vs. right.

Authoritarian regimes from both have many things in common.

Also CULT OF PERSONALITY regimes (both Trump, Mao, and many others in history) also have many things in common regardless of ideology (if any).

Arguably Trumpism isn't really an ideology -- it's about following the leader in whatever he says (which can change 180 degrees in minutes).

 

My main observations --

 

Both the Maoist cultural revolution and Trump maga cult greatly devalue the "elite" more specifically actually real expertise and relevant experience.

 

Witness the most disgusting most unqualified cabinet picks in American history by Trump. Almost all totally unqualified in the area they're supposed to be experts in to an absurd degree. The only qualification needed? Sucking up big time to the leader. Total loyalty to the leader.

 

Project 2025 and DOGE actions and plans to purge the government of actual experts in favor or loyalists with no qualifications. (As above.)

 

As I said in the OP, nobody is saying they are exactly the same. Of course they're not.

Trump is not sending doctors to work in the fields as the Mao big ball boys did. 

 

But I'm convinced the parallels between these two movements are really real and really there. History doesn't repeat itself but it often rhymes.

 

Now I will put on my flak jacket for the barage of mindless insults from the maga cult members here, who are very loud, and who clearly are very much against free speech except if it's Trump worship speech.

 

 

Hey Buddy, look at the mess that the “elite” have created in the USA.  Speaking of cultural revolution, who is pushing DEI and trans agenda? 

[nauseus]

28 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

So many triggered maga cult members here that have nothing but personal insults.

So predictable!

 

Anyway, to discuss why I originally saw a connection between Maoist cultural revolution and the Maga Trump cult movement, in some ways matching what the CNN article says Chinese are thinking, but more of a smaller subset of that. So I am very fascinated hearing what the Chinese think.

 

So ...

 

This isn't about left vs. right.

Authoritarian regimes from both have many things in common.

Also CULT OF PERSONALITY regimes (both Trump, Mao, and many others in history) also have many things in common regardless of ideology (if any).

Arguably Trumpism isn't really an ideology -- it's about following the leader in whatever he says (which can change 180 degrees in minutes).

 

My main observations --

 

Both the Maoist cultural revolution and Trump maga cult greatly devalue the "elite" more specifically actually real expertise and relevant experience.

 

Witness the most disgusting most unqualified cabinet picks in American history by Trump. Almost all totally unqualified in the area they're supposed to be experts in to an absurd degree. The only qualification needed? Sucking up big time to the leader. Total loyalty to the leader.

 

Project 2025 and DOGE actions and plans to purge the government of actual experts in favor or loyalists with no qualifications. (As above.)

 

As I said in the OP, nobody is saying they are exactly the same. Of course they're not.

Trump is not sending doctors to work in the fields as the Mao big ball boys did. 

 

But I'm convinced the parallels between these two movements are really real and really there. History doesn't repeat itself but it often rhymes.

 

Now I will put on my flak jacket for the barage of mindless insults from the maga cult members here, who are very loud, and who clearly are very much against free speech except if it's Trump worship speech.

 

A flak jacket might not be enough. Why not ask the Bidens and see if Sleepy Basement is free this year?

[TedG]

24 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

The sad thing is the democrats still haven't figured out why Trump won.

 

8 plus yrs of demonizing Trump.  How's that working out?

This is true.  The people hate the Democrats.  

[chippendale]

  Obsessed with Trump 

[BLMFem]

1 hour ago, Mad Mustang said:

God bless America 😊😊😊😊

One can only hope so but lately She's been kind of a b****.

[BLMFem]

1 hour ago, connda said:

So Trump isn't Hitler anymore, he's Mao.  I'm sure he'll be Stalin soon enough.

Totalitarianism is totalitarianism whatever label you slap on it, and the cult of Trump sure seems to yearn for it. 

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, connda said:

So Trump isn't Hitler anymore, he's Mao.  I'm sure he'll be Stalin soon enough.

Stop LYING.

It's so SLEAZY!

I never said he was literally Hitler, Mao, or Stalin.

Are you even capable of posting in good faith?

[chippendale]

13 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Stop LYING.

It's so SLEAZY!

I never said he was literally Hitler, Mao, or Stalin.

Are you even capable of posting in good faith?

 

Worse, he's Netanyahu.

[nauseus]

37 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Stop LYING.

It's so SLEAZY!

I never said he was literally Hitler, Mao, or Stalin.

Are you even capable of posting in good faith?

 

Pot with boiling water venting steam.

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Pot with boiling water venting steam.

Projection of someone who can't tolerate anti-Trump free speech.

Trump is Trump.

The worst president in American history.

Potentially the last.

That's bad enough!

[Jingthing]

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

The OP is from Chinese commentators only and is pure Chinese propaganda being sucked up by the gullible.

 

Actually I've heard the connection recently discussed by U.S. political commentators, particularly traditional conservative republicans that understand the Trump is a Putin puppet, has a parade for himself like a tin pot dictator, doesn't follow the rule of law, doesn't uphold the constitution, has permanently damaged the American brand with former allies, is totally incompetent and knows nothing about economics or rational foreign policy, etc.

[nauseus]

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Projection of someone who can't tolerate anti-Trump free speech.

Trump is Trump.

The worst president in American history.

Potentially the last.

That's bad enough!

 

Just bored with it. It's been non-stop for10 years.