The Art of Saudi Dementia

[ericthai]

8 hours ago, Will B Good said:

In case you CBA to read all that.....

 

 

 

The Trump–Saudi arms deal was reckless, hypocritical, and profit-driven.

It empowered a regime with a poor human rights record.

It criticises American foreign policy, corporate influence, and performative patriotism.

So it was ok when Biden was trying to make a pact?

( The Biden administration tried but was unable to close a defense pact with Saudi)   

 

[frank83628]

6 hours ago, Tug said:

Well sure frank their citizens did the World Trade Center……they are amongst the most extreme adherents to the religion of (peace) and trump’s arming them.of course lucid Americans are concerned.

OK, so if 911  were  Saudis, why did you take out Iraq?

Do you support the overthrow of Assad in Syria now? You know that the new leaders are Isis and al queda.... known terrorists, right up until the US & UK decided to remove them from the terror list... weirdly they are now the good guys...no doubt you approve, but wait, trump does too.....which way will you flip flop?

[ThreeCardMonte]

52 minutes ago, candide said:

My source is an official investigation followed by a plea deal. Your source is a crap video!  

But I agree with it and there’s nothing you can do can about it.  Nothing.

 

Now put your investigative reporting into the false claims of the OP of this thread. 
 

 

 

[mogandave]

2 hours ago, candide said:

You are making stuff up again, while at the same time deflecting. Several posters who are critical to Trump have expressed support for reducing drug prices and ending the current scam (me, for example). Provided, of course, it actually happens.

The left will do everything they can to stop him. 

[Magictoad]

10 hours ago, Lewie London said:

Oh bravo, Donald John. Absolute masterstroke, mate. Nothing says ‘world peace’ quite like flogging $142 billion worth of top-shelf death machines to a bloke who treats dissent like it’s a piñata party. MBS must’ve thought Christmas came early when Trump showed up: jets, bombs, drones, the works. All gift-wrapped in American exceptionalism and dipped in KFC mashed potato gravy. And they still call it a “strategic partnership.” Yeah, strategic in the same way giving a toddler a flamethrower is “educational.”

 

Let’s not forget who we’re dealing with here. Saudi Arabia. The country with a human rights record that makes North Korea look like a mindfulness retreat. These are the lads who drop airstrikes on school buses and weddings in Yemen like they’re playing Call of Duty on cocaine. And now we’ve decided they need more gear? Brilliant. What could possibly go wrong?

 

So now he’s singlehandedly solved the Middle East with a few tanks and a dodgy handshake from MBS, that’s Mohammed bin “saw a journalist in half” Salman, for the uninitiated. Then they rolled out the lavender carpet for him. Not red, mind you. Lavender. Real subtle, innit. Looked like Liberace had spewed royalty all over the runway. And Trump’s there lapping it up like an oversized Pomeranian in a tiara. Then he waddles into Riyadh like he’s Gandalf the Peacebringer, arms outstretched. Mate, they weren’t welcoming a statesman. They were measuring him up for a gold-plated yes-man trophy. All that pomp, all that fanfare, and for what? So Raytheon and Lockheed can cash in like it’s Black Friday in hell.

 

This ain’t about strategy. This is about sales. Corporate Christmas. They’re not solving conflicts. They’re investing in them. Bombs now, reconstruction later. A full-service business model. Meanwhile, Donnie’s grinning like a lunatic, signing away weapons like he’s doing a two-for-one on nukes at Aldi.

 

And what’s the endgame here? Strengthen our allies? Please. We’ve been down this road. Gave Saddam the tools. Next thing he’s gassing villages. Armed the Mujahideen. Next thing they’re flying planes into buildings. But no, this time it’ll be different. This time we’re arming responsibly. Like giving a chainsaw to a fox and saying, “Now don’t go mad with it.”

 

You’d think someone might raise an eyebrow. But nah. Trump's base is too busy wetting themselves over “America First” while their tax dollars are funding the arms race version of a garage sale in the Middle East. No schools, no healthcare, but don’t worry lads, Saudi’s got guided missiles coming out their ears.

 

Honestly mate, if irony were a weapon, Trump’d have already started World War Three.

Yawn

[spidermike007]

Now his supporters are going to talk about what a great negotiator he is and what a great deal maker he is, completely forgetting about the fact that he cannot negotiate his way out of a paper bag and he's had an insane number of business failures. The vast majority of his money has been earned through grifting and theft. 

 

17 of his businesses have failed in the past few  decades. Some at huge losses. Trump Steaks, Trump Shuttle Airline ($120 million in losses between 1988 and 1990), GoTrump, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump University, Trump Ice, The New Jersey Generals, Tour de Trump, Trump Network, Trump Magazine, Trumped!. Many businesses that licensed his name went bankrupt, or went out of business. 

 

And he had between four and six major bankruptcies (depending on the source), including the Trump Taj Mahal (which he spent $1.2 billion building, and was $3 billion in debt within a year of opening), Trump's Castle, Trump Place Hotel (which was very successful prior to Trump buying it in 1988, and he managed to put it into $550 million in debt by 1992!), Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts ($1.8 billion in debt by 2004, bankrupt in 2009) , and Trump Entertainment Resorts. There are likely others.

 

And this does not take into account the 3,600 lawsuits he was involved in as of the time he took office, the vast majority of which were filed by small contractors against his companies for non payment, or total default. Many of these contractors were crushed. It is part of his M.O. 

[Will B Good]

5 hours ago, ericthai said:

So it was ok when Biden was trying to make a pact?

( The Biden administration tried but was unable to close a defense pact with Saudi)   

 

 

My comment was just condensing down the original post???

 

I wasn't making any comment as such.

[flexomike]

8 hours ago, candide said:

The current production increase was announced in June 2024 under Biden! Say thank you!  

 

Saudi Arabia to ramp up oil production capacity in the next 3 years - energy minister

Nirmal Narayanan

06 June 2024

https://www.arabnews.com/node/2524906/business-economy

 

 

yeah after he drained the oil reserves

[Mike_Hunt]

6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Now his supporters are going to talk about what a great negotiator he is and what a great deal maker he is, completely forgetting about the fact that he cannot negotiate his way out of a paper bag and he's had an insane number of business failures. The vast majority of his money has been earned through grifting and theft. 

 

17 of his businesses have failed in the past few  decades. Some at huge losses. Trump Steaks, Trump Shuttle Airline ($120 million in losses between 1988 and 1990), GoTrump, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump University, Trump Ice, The New Jersey Generals, Tour de Trump, Trump Network, Trump Magazine, Trumped!. Many businesses that licensed his name went bankrupt, or went out of business. 

 

And he had between four and six major bankruptcies (depending on the source), including the Trump Taj Mahal (which he spent $1.2 billion building, and was $3 billion in debt within a year of opening), Trump's Castle, Trump Place Hotel (which was very successful prior to Trump buying it in 1988, and he managed to put it into $550 million in debt by 1992!), Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts ($1.8 billion in debt by 2004, bankrupt in 2009) , and Trump Entertainment Resorts. There are likely others.

 

And this does not take into account the 3,600 lawsuits he was involved in as of the time he took office, the vast majority of which were filed by small contractors against his companies for non payment, or total default. Many of these contractors were crushed. It is part of his M.O. 

 

Yet, Trump is more successful than you. 

[ThreeCardMonte]

Much better than Biden’s fist bump.

 

 

 

 

[ThreeCardMonte]

7 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Now his supporters are going to talk about what a great negotiator he is and what a great deal maker he is, completely forgetting about the fact that he cannot negotiate his way out of a paper bag and he's had an insane number of business failures. The vast majority of his money has been earned through grifting and theft. 

 

17 of his businesses have failed in the past few  decades. Some at huge losses. Trump Steaks, Trump Shuttle Airline ($120 million in losses between 1988 and 1990), GoTrump, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump University, Trump Ice, The New Jersey Generals, Tour de Trump, Trump Network, Trump Magazine, Trumped!. Many businesses that licensed his name went bankrupt, or went out of business. 

 

And he had between four and six major bankruptcies (depending on the source), including the Trump Taj Mahal (which he spent $1.2 billion building, and was $3 billion in debt within a year of opening), Trump's Castle, Trump Place Hotel (which was very successful prior to Trump buying it in 1988, and he managed to put it into $550 million in debt by 1992!), Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts ($1.8 billion in debt by 2004, bankrupt in 2009) , and Trump Entertainment Resorts. There are likely others.

 

And this does not take into account the 3,600 lawsuits he was involved in as of the time he took office, the vast majority of which were filed by small contractors against his companies for non payment, or total default. Many of these contractors were crushed. It is part of his M.O. 

 

We have never heard of that before…,

 

He’s not failing now but please continue with your meltdown.

 

Your meltdowns will not raise the the popularity of the Democratic Party above its current 20 percent.

 

Not a chance in 2026 or 2028.

 

 

[ThreeCardMonte]

13 hours ago, illisdean said:

Oh look ...a Trump rally in KSA....

 

 

 

What a nice crowd.

 

No blue hair screaming women overdosing on antidepressants.

 

No drag queens, trans holding signs.

 

No leftist indoctrinated college students having meltdowns

 

No Antifa or BLM paid protestors.

 

What a difference a flight makes.

 

Go Trump

[TheAppletons]

1 hour ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

What a nice crowd.

 

No blue hair screaming women overdosing on antidepressants.

 

No drag queens, trans holding signs.

 

No leftist indoctrinated college students having meltdowns

 

No Antifa or BLM paid protestors.

 

What a difference a flight makes.

 

Go Trump

 

  Yep, death by public beheading will stop a lot of that.

[darbie-foos]

13 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Now his supporters are going to talk about what a great negotiator he is and what a great deal maker he is, completely forgetting about the fact that he cannot negotiate his way out of a paper bag and he's had an insane number of business failures. The vast majority of his money has been earned through grifting and theft. 

 

17 of his businesses have failed in the past few  decades. Some at huge losses. Trump Steaks, Trump Shuttle Airline ($120 million in losses between 1988 and 1990), GoTrump, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump University, Trump Ice, The New Jersey Generals, Tour de Trump, Trump Network, Trump Magazine, Trumped!. Many businesses that licensed his name went bankrupt, or went out of business. 

 

And he had between four and six major bankruptcies (depending on the source), including the Trump Taj Mahal (which he spent $1.2 billion building, and was $3 billion in debt within a year of opening), Trump's Castle, Trump Place Hotel (which was very successful prior to Trump buying it in 1988, and he managed to put it into $550 million in debt by 1992!), Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts ($1.8 billion in debt by 2004, bankrupt in 2009) , and Trump Entertainment Resorts. There are likely others.

 

And this does not take into account the 3,600 lawsuits he was involved in as of the time he took office, the vast majority of which were filed by small contractors against his companies for non payment, or total default. Many of these contractors were crushed. It is part of his M.O. 

[illisdean]

More like the "Art of the Trump Effect & WINNING".

Hey haters....How ya doin.... LOL

 

 

 

[Photoguy21]

Funny how many people slag off Saudi, and I am no lover of the country, but have probably never been there. They have a very safe country because of the laws they have and use. Something the West can not say.

[Hummin]

3 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

Funny how many people slag off Saudi, and I am no lover of the country, but have probably never been there. They have a very safe country because of the laws they have and use. Something the West can not say.

To be true, I have always enjoyed traveling in muslim countries and areas. They have always been really good hosts for me personally and also for the sport and activities we have done. 

 

When that said, being a local without privileges, or even worse a Labour worker from a 3. country? 

 

 

[Photoguy21]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

To be true, I have always enjoyed traveling in muslim countries and areas. They have always been really good hosts for me personally and also for the sport and activities we have done. 

 

When that said, being a local without privileges, or even worse a Labour worker from a 3. country? 

 

 

I agree they were 3rd world but compared to Europe more like 1st world

[TheAppletons]

29 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Typical hater response, devoid of all common sense. But, maybe your comment can be likened to that family of 8, or maybe it was 10 Afghanis going to a picnic that Biden evaporated with an over-the-horizon tomahawk....or the American citizen(s) Obama assassinated in a drone strike, or the millions killed during the 20 year, $2T, Afghan war the US waged on the Taliban just to replace the Taliban with the Taliban...LOL Like that? 

 

  Sorry...this thread is about Saudi Arabia.  So I guess you've got nothing related to the topic to post.

 

  It's not about Afghanistan or Obama or the Taliban.

 

  Typical MAGA ADHD response.  Very appropriate username, "Ill is Dean".

[save the frogs]

19 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

Yet, Trump is more successful than you. 

That's exactly the point. 

Trump makes people feel inferior.

He does rub his success and power in people's faces with an arrogant personality. 

Hence one reason x per cent of haters exist. Just purely based on Trump's magnanimous success and arrogance. 

Regardless what he does, once these negative emotions are engaged, nobody cares about debate. 

 

 

[ThreeCardMonte]

2 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

That's exactly the point. 

Trump makes people feel inferior.

He does rub his success and power in people's faces with an arrogant personality. 

Hence one reason x per cent of haters exist. Just purely based on Trump's magnanimous success and arrogance. 

Regardless what he does, once these negative emotions are engaged, nobody cares about debate. 

 

 

“Trump makes people feel inferior.”

 

No, only you and those like you.

 

Welcome back to the toxic threads.

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

“Trump makes people feel inferior.”

 

No, only you and those like you.

 

Welcome back to the toxic threads.

 

I'm not one of the people constantly bashing Trump.

 

We need a "Psychology of Why People Hate Trump So Much" thread .... which I might start soon. 

 

Put my Carl Jung knowledge to use. 

 

[ThreeCardMonte]

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

I'm not one of the people constantly bashing Trump.

 

We need a "Psychology of Why People Hate Trump So Much" thread .... which I might start soon. 

 

Put my Carl Jung knowledge to use. 

 

“I'm not one of the people constantly bashing Trump.”

 

You fooled me.  It happens occasionally.

 

Trump doesn’t make me feel inferior even though he’s more successful than anyone on this forum.

 

Why does he do that to you?

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Why does he do that to you?

maybe if I had to sit in the same room with Trump, he would get under my skin.

not sure.

 

[BLMFem]

9 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

This is video is all about you.

 

 

Wait, what? They made a Youtube video all about me??

OK, that does it - OnlyFans it is!!

[ThreeCardMonte]

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

maybe if I had to sit in the same room with Trump, he would get under my skin.

not sure.

 

His mean tweets must of set you into a frenzy.

[RuamRudy]

On 5/14/2025 at 2:19 PM, SunnyinBangrak said:

Like the Moscow mayor, CCP officials and Ukranian oligarchs that were all paying him unaccountable millions? Oh, no sorry, that was YOUR man.

Why fret about corrupt dictators now? 4 years too late Mike.

Even if any of that was remotely true, Biden is history. Trump is the current corrupt man in power. If you keep saying 'but but but' then nothing will change. Why not make a fresh, determined start to clean up politics by incarcerating the Trump crime family? 

[SunnyinBangrak]

6 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Even if any of that was remotely true, Biden is history. Trump is the current corrupt man in power. If you keep saying 'but but but' then nothing will change. Why not make a fresh, determined start to clean up politics by incarcerating the Trump crime family? 

Because they didn't do anything wrong beyond destroying team woke at the ballot box? Btw not surprised to see you squirming when reminded of the 4 years of pushing disinformation and calling those on the side of fact a "cult". I'd be mortified if I did it.

[RuamRudy]

9 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Because they didn't do anything wrong beyond destroying team woke at the ballot box? Btw not surprised to see you squirming when reminded of the 4 years of pushing disinformation and calling those on the side of fact a "cult". I'd be mortified if I did it.

 

“If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.” — Thomas Jefferson

[darbie-foos]