Report Thailand Sees a Surge in COVID-19 Cases: Concerns for Public Health

[dinsdale]

5 hours ago, jayboy said:

Covid symptoms are not akin to the common cold

Let's see. Cough, runny nose/blocked nose, muscle aches and pains, sneezing, sore throat, respiratory problems, headache, fatigue, loss of smell and or taste, secondary bacterial infections and generally feeling unwell. Are these symptoms of the common cold, Omicron or both? 

[Presnock]

1 hour ago, johng said:

 

You might want to have a read of this thread for a refresher of just how negative

mask wearers became.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, johng said:

 

You might want to have a read of this thread for a refresher of just how negative

mask wearers became.

 

 

Yeah during the period of the pandemic.  But anyway, I was an avid runner in many capital cities over the years and regular medical checkups advised me to wear a high quality N96 surgical mask when I jogged in the streets or to do my jogging inside as the cities were almost always polluted.  I have no problems wearing a mask anytime I go out where there will be tourists or crowds and fail to understand why anyone else should be concerned anyway so why the negative comments.  I am not advising you or anyone else to wear a mask, that is my choice just like the underwear that I choose to wear - it is none of your business whatsoever.  I still fail to understand why non-maskers are so concerned with what other people do and why they have such negative comments - I could understand if I or someone else made such comments to them about not wearing a mask but I haven't.  

[VBF]

1 hour ago, sandrew33 said:

It is compared to actual flu. People calling common colds flu is part of the problem. 
 

I’ve had Covid twice, the second time was barely a cold. The first time is was 4 days that felt exactly like last time I had a proper flu. 
 

Both flu and Covid primarily kill the elderly and infirm for most others it’s a few days of relative misery with “flu like symptoms” 

Exactly. The common cold is not the same as influenza, but covid is similar to influenza.

I've had covid twice that I know of (tested) and once where I think it was covid but not sure at age 68. Not sure because I wasn't planning on going out and mixing with others so didn't bother to test and it's just annoying, no more. Been vaxxed / boosted 5 times now - age 70.

What must be said is my experiences hold true for the majority of people who get covid - for a minority it's more serious as we know.

 

But we should never have shut the world down for a minority. Those who have pre-existing issues or who are very old should have been offered the opportunity (and supported) to isolate.

Furthermore, Charles Darwin had something to say about survival, as we all know.

As for the morons who deny science and won't be vaxxed - you're free to go your own way, but just shut up about it!

[jayboy]

24 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Let's see. Cough, runny nose/blocked nose, muscle aches and pains, sneezing, sore throat, respiratory problems, headache, fatigue, loss of smell and or taste, secondary bacterial infections and generally feeling unwell. Are these symptoms of the common cold, Omicron or both? 

 

Some, perhaps the majority, are common to both. Don't really get your point.

[johng]

5 minutes ago, VBF said:

As for the morons who deny science and won't be vaxxed - you're free to go your own way, but just shut up about it!

Why should they shut up about it when "people" like you keep going on about getting vaxed...like the previous poster said  "it is none of your business"

never was and never should be..unfortunately far too many fell for the military grade syop claiming that you would die if not vaxed   the IFR of Covid is less than 1 %   Yes they shut the world down for a minority and then said to get your

free-dumbs  back you must take this concoction !!

 

 

[VBF]

2 minutes ago, johng said:

Why should they shut up about it when "people" like you keep going on about getting vaxed...like the previous poster said  "it is none of your business"

never was and never should be..unfortunately far too many fell for the military grade syop claiming that you would die if not vaxed   the IFR of Covid is less than 1 %   Yes they shut the world down for a minority and then said to get your

free-dumbs  back you must take this concoction !!

 

Nobody said you MUST get vaccinated - it's just that intelligent science followers saw how effective the vaccines would be and have been proven correct.

You're right  - it's not my business so just carry on enjoying your conspiracy theories and I'll carry on enjoying my (usually) healthy life.

[dinsdale]

20 minutes ago, jayboy said:

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47 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

deleted. This was meant to be your comment. I'll try again.

[johng]

3 minutes ago, VBF said:

Nobody said you MUST get vaccinated

Wrong...how quickly you forget.

[VBF]

2 minutes ago, johng said:

Wrong...how quickly you forget.

Nobody in UK was forced to vaccinate, but for a while there were restrictions on those who didn't - therefore a choice. Said restrictions then went away when the majority had some immunity from....vaccination!

[markus]

23 hours ago, blaze master said:

 

A full lockdown of the entire country would be much better.

 

Hashtag lockdown Thailand now.

What a stupid answer that is!

[dinsdale]

24 minutes ago, jayboy said:

Some, perhaps the majority, are common to both. Don't really get your point.

6 hours ago, jayboy said:

Covid symptoms are not akin to the common cold - I know having experienced both.

Ok. So which is it.? Akin to and common to being interchangeable terms in this context.

[johng]

10 minutes ago, VBF said:

Nobody in UK was forced to vaccinate, but for a while there were restrictions on those who didn't

 

You mean like if they wanted to keep their job  that kind of "choice"

 

That is not a choice  that is an ultimatum  and is also known as coercion  which is against the Geneva Convention...

[MaskLover2025]

5 hours ago, Kaopad999 said:

I agree - Out of curiosity, did you return to your home country or relocate to a neighboring one? 
 

I came back for a couple of weeks recently. Now, I just lead a nomadic lifestyle, traveling to different places every few months. At the beginning of the year, I was in Central America - Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua e.t.c and wow, what a contrast, no masks to be seen anywhere, and people were so sincere and friendly. Thailand used to be like this, but masks are a total vibe killer and make a mockery of its 'Land of Smiles' tagline. In fact, it is actually rather insulting to other countries for them to cling onto to this, since other countries are far more deserving of this title.

[VBF]

5 minutes ago, johng said:

 

You mean like if they wanted to keep their job  that kind of "choice"

 

That is not a choice  that is an ultimatum  and is also known a coercion  which is against the Geneva Convention...

You are a funny man! If you work for someone else amongst other people, you do as you're told or leave. You call it coercion, I call it discipline. 

You might as well say that not bathing and going to work stinking is OK and you can't be told to clean up or leave!

[MaskLover2025]

5 hours ago, Tomtomtom69 said:

 

Totally agree. Zero critical thinking in place. I laugh now when I walk past a masked zombie. I also ask people why they're wearing them. It's just stupid. 

Yes, it is terrifying how nearly none of them can muster a mildly coherent answer to such a simple question - they are totally devoid of even basic critical thinking. The education system in Thailand does a fine job indocrinating its populace to become as sheepish as is humanly possible.

[impulse]

1 hour ago, 1FinickyOne said:

4 hours ago, impulse said:

You mean like my Pfizer injury?

sure, why not? But I have no idea about your injury... maybe I dozed off during the news one day.

 

You probably weren't sleeping.  For years, any mention of vaccine injuries would get you banned and deleted.

 

[Hamus Yaigh]

20 hours ago, MaskLover2025 said:

What a miserable country Thailand has become - everywhere you go, you see frightened and miserable-looking people in muzzles. It is pathetic and makes a mockery of their whole Land of Smiles schtick. So glad I don't live there anymore. Majority of Thais are brainwashed cowards.

Hope the door didn't hit you when you left.

[MaskLover2025]

2 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

Hope the door didn't hit you when you left.

You live with mask shaggers while the rest of the world smiles and breathes freely. Thailand, calling itself the Land of Smiles, is like Israel calling itself the Land of religious tolerance. 

[blaze master]

4 hours ago, chuang said:

Why are you still here...

 

Who are you ?

[johng]

4 minutes ago, VBF said:

You are a funny man! If you work for someone else amongst other people, you do as you're told or leave. You call it coercion, I call it discipline. 

We I think you are the "funny" one     you say it is none of your business if vaxed or not ..then say it was not  required/mandated/coerced..

now you call it discipline,

ties in well with my military grade syop "conspiracy theory" 

The military are big on  discipline.

 

"military discipline."

Control obtained by enforcing compliance or order.

 

[blaze master]

23 minutes ago, markus said:

What a stupid answer that is!

 

Who brought the fun sponge.

[VBF]

Just now, johng said:

We I think you are the "funny" one     you say it is none of your business if vaxed or not ..then say it was not  required/mandated/coerced..

now you call it discipline,

ties in well with my military grade syop "conspiracy theory" 

The military are big on  discipline.

 

"military discipline."

Control obtained by enforcing compliance or order.

 

Yup! At the time, it was (or should have been) "you don't have to be vaxxed - just don't mix with others if you're not".

Now it doesn't matter as all the sensible, thinking people have been vaxxed.

 

As for discipline- it's a necessary facet of mixing with others - again a choice if you don't want to mix with others.

In most work places, military or civilian  there are rules to which you implicitly agree to abide by when you take a job: behaviour, timekeeping, dress codes etc. This is just another of them.

[dinsdale]

38 minutes ago, VBF said:

You are a funny man! If you work for someone else amongst other people, you do as you're told or leave. You call it coercion, I call it discipline. 

You might as well say that not bathing and going to work stinking is OK and you can't be told to clean up or leave!

Friend of mine teaching in Bangkok was told get jabbed or lose their job. Quite bizarre that anyone can call this "discipline". Simply one of the most stupid comments I've seen about people being forced into getting jabbed or lose their livelihood.

[Zapitapi]

the test kits used do not and can not identify COV SARS 2.. they couldnt a few years ago nor can they now..anyway loads of peeps still watching TV and will be scared..again!

 

what boggles the mind is that the info is ready available from reputable sources everywhere if one would take the time to look at it..but hey its your life.. obey and do what ur told:)

[VBF]

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

Friend of mine teaching in Bangkok was told get jabbed or lose their job. Quite bizarre that anyone can call this "discipline". Simply one of the most stupid comments I've heard about people being forced into getting jabbed or lose their livelihood.

You say that as if getting jabbed was such an onerous task!

It just is so quick and easy with such a positive outcome. As I say, I (and everyone I know) has had several - my friend who's 75 had his sixth booster a few weeks ago. As with the 'flu jab, he had a sore arm and minor symptoms for a day or so.  

[dinsdale]

15 minutes ago, VBF said:

You say that as if getting jabbed was such an onerous task!

It just is so quick and easy with such a positive outcome. As I say, I (and everyone I know) has had several - my friend who's 75 had his sixth booster a few weeks ago. As with the 'flu jab, he had a sore arm and minor symptoms for a day or so.  

Pitiful deflection. You say not having the freedom to chose and being forced to have the jab is some sort of "discipline". This is simply unhinged. As for "positive outcomes" the jury's in when it comes to mRNA vaccine injuries with mountains of evidence. I'm sure people who have been injured by the mRNA jabs would love to have a "chat" with you.

[VBF]

5 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Pitiful deflection. You say not having the freedom to chose and being forced to have the jab is some sort of "discipline". This is simply unhinged. As for "positive outcomes" the jury's in when it comes to mRNA vaccine injuries with mountains of evidence. I'm sure people who have been injured by the mRNA jabs would love to have a "chat" with you.

I always had the freedom to choose, so no deflection at all.

 

Look at it this way.

In UK covid is largely seen as recent history, mainly because when vaccination became available, there was an enormous take-up and restrictions were lifted quite quickly.

In Thailand where I believe fewer people were vaccinated for whatever reasons, covid is on the rise again and the unvaccinated will likely suffer.

Here in UK I see very few people wearing masks; people have resumed all types of social interaction. OK Thais wore masks before covid possibly because of the earlier SARS issues, and sometimes because of poor air quality.

 

Discipline can be self-enforced as well as mandated - no one forced me to be vaccinated - I chose to be and do not regret any one of them. Had I not, I might have been prevented from accessing some areas for a short time - that's also now history.

 

With any vaccine, some people unfortunately suffer side effects - look at the percentage of those compared with the majority who've benefitted - it's sad but that's how life is sometimes.  This is not a drug scandal like Thalidomide was, it's an unfortunate few for whom the vaccine didn't work. As I say, sad but part of life.

[dinsdale]

48 minutes ago, VBF said:

I always had the freedom to choose, so no deflection at all.

 

You may have had the freedom to chose but huge numbers didn't. I gave you one example of a teacher friend in Bangkok. Get jabbed or lose your job. Here's some more examples that involved thousands if not tens of thousands. The military, police, firefighters and nurses. Get jabbed or endanger your livelihood. Explain how this is some sort of "discipline" which is what you previously said it is. Any "self discipline" was from those who weren't coerced into taking an experimental "vaccine".

[VBF]

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

You may have had the freedom to chose but huge numbers didn't. I gave you one example of a teacher friend in Bangkok. Get jabbed or lose your job. Here's some more examples that involved thousands if not tens of thousands. The military, police, firefighters and nurses. Get jabbed or endanger your livelihood. Explain how this is some sort of "discipline" which is what you previously said it is.

If you do such jobs you do what is required...BUT in this case the jab was such an obvious benefit to all, that such people, who are usually intelligent wouldn't have had a problem with it.

Do you personally know any of the people in occupations you listed who refused to be jabbed? I know a few local coppers and they all leaped at the jabs as soon as they were available. Could call that self-discipline.

Those who refused were listening to conspiracy nonsense, of which there was a lot!

[jaywalker2]

3 hours ago, plahgat said:

You mean it wasn´t  Covid?

I tested positive every time!

This year I even did 3 tests to be sure, 2 nasal and one saliva, all showed positive for Covid-19.

I also tested for Flu A & B, but was negative.

Symptoms all consistent with Covid, only I didn´t get a stuffy and congested nose this time!

Most symptomatic except constant fever and fatigue is the dryness of your mouth and throat and lack of taste and smell!

You got that strange metallic taste in your mouth all the time making you loose your appetite, and kind of feel nauseous.

Even today 2 months later my tongue and mouth still feels a bit dry, but my sense of taste is slowly coming back.

I have become very sensitive to smells though, and can smell a person with deodorant from miles away!😆

 

 

No, I meant your immune system doesn't seem up to par and that's exacerbating the illness.