Are We Prepared for a Real Life Situation With a Sudden Loss of Tech?

[SkyNets]

2 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

thats a nudgebar... will do feck all.

 

Plenty of places to ram raid.

 

[jvs]

24 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Every farm have basically the same, we do not stand out in any way, and alot of more people who are less fortunate than us when it comes to being secured.

 

We had a few runs of yaba boys on motorbikes, who turned around when they saw our dog we have loose in the daytime, and we had fake police showing up on our doorstep, who didn't walk out of the car because of our dog. 

 

Presented himself as a policeman checking the neighborhood for how many people living in the houses, and also what we had for security. 

 

Only mom in law home at the time, since we where abroad, and she answer we let loose the other dogs in the night. So I guess he imagined the dogs locked up a bit more scary than our full breed American bully. 

 

Detwcting Cameras on solar power and sim card wifi. 

 

All this because her mom and dad where afraid of staying alone at the farm when we are not there. 

 

Every postman knows us, and the neighborhood because of our dogs. They never bite anyone, but are  quite frankly intimidating since they are not scared and nervous of people like normal Thai dogs. 

 

When that said, if people gang up, and want to do harm to others because of their resources, there is time to move on. Not worth it

 

Most cases we hear about, thais stealing from each other, fruit, vegetables, animals, fish, and weak elderly people invaded, beaten and robbed. Not often you hear about violent robbery, but happens 

Immigration showed up this morning looking for our neighbor,two years over stay.They will never find him!

[Hummin]

6 minutes ago, jvs said:

Immigration showed up this morning looking for our neighbor,two years over stay.They will never find him!

So, he literally disappeared ?

[jvs]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

So, he literally disappeared ?

We cremated him two years ago.

[impulse]

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

9 minutes ago, jvs said:

Immigration showed up this morning looking for our neighbor,two years over stay.They will never find him!

So, he literally disappeared ?

 

I wonder if jvs just confessed?  Buried out back, maybe?

 

Oops,  Posted 3 seconds late...

 

 

[Hummin]

Just now, impulse said:

 

I wonder if jvs just confessed?  Buried out back, maybe?

 

 

I prefer 200l plastic chemical drums full of acid. 

[impulse]

13 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I prefer 200l plastic chemical drums full of acid. 

 

I like Swearingen's method in Deadwood.  Win-win.

 

Edit:  For the non-watchers, he has his ethnic friend feed them to his pigs.

 

[Patong2021]

2 hours ago, hankypankee said:

Sheeeesh. Do you even have one iota of a clue what’s going on in the real world, or are you just here chasing dopamine squirts from acting smug on the internet?

 

This literally happened in Europe. In April. As in, five minutes ago in adult time. I even said that in the OP. So what is it, you can’t read, or you just can’t comprehend?

It’s not a conspiracy theory. Not a tinfoil-hat doomsday fantasy. It was a real-world, documented power outage where people couldn’t charge phones, use cards, or get online. But yeah, let’s slap “paranoia” on anyone with basic situational awareness and carry on pretending everything’s invincible. Absolute genius.

 

Did Europe fall apart? Did the people of Spain run about screaming that the sky is falling? They did what people for centuries have done when there is a catastrophic event. They panic first, then get annoyed, then cope and then, most look to helping others. There was no widescale looting, People did not run down the streets  crying and fearful that the world was ending.

When the catastrophic earthquake and tsunami hit Japan, it was awful for 72 hours, and then the country got itself organized and  responded.

When the wildfires  devastated Australia, Canada and the USA. people's lives were destroyed, but society did not unravel. The people came together and there was mutual  assistance. Society recovered and is still recovering.

 

Everyone has an obligation and a duty to be able to go 72 hours without assistance. In rural areas this should be 120 hours.

We have to take responsibility for ourselves until a response can be mounted.

Catatstrophes happen everyday and people who are prepared get through it easier than those who are not.

[impulse]

Just now, Patong2021 said:

There was no widescale looting, People did not run down the streets  crying and fearful that the world was ending.

 

You missed Hurricane Katrina in the news, didn't you?  More big screen TVs and expensive sneakers changed hands than Amazon sells in the same period. 

 

 

[newbee2022]

3 hours ago, hankypankee said:

I am not talking about a total collapse or global cyber war where the Russians, Chinese, Iranians, North Koreans or some other bad actor completely takes out the grid in some dystopian plot to bring the world to a halt. I’m only suggesting a temporary outage. Like the power blackout that hit parts of Spain and Portugal at the end of April. Power gone for a day, no internet, no phone charging, no digital payments. Suddenly, modern life grinds to a halt without any explanation. People who rely entirely on their phones found themselves cut off, not just from the nonsense worlds of Instagram and TikTok, but from real information, communication, even the ability to buy food because they couldn’t use digital technology to make payments.

 

In moments like that, it’s not the end of the world, but it can feel like it if you’re not ready, especially if you don’t really know what’s happening or how long it’s going to last. Situations where you can’t charge your phone. No QR codes. No apps. No bank transfers. You can’t even pay with a physical debit or credit card. And unless you’ve got an old-school radio stashed away with batteries in it, you won’t even know what’s actually going on. It’s the kind of situation where real cash is suddenly needed again, and so is having a bit of backup power.

 

I’m not talking about being one of those prepper nutters building fully sustained underground bunkers and hoarding ten years of canned beans. Just about common sense. Do you have a power bank of at least 20,000 milliamp with at least one full charge on it so that it could charge your phone for a few days? Do you have at least a few hundred dollar equivalent in banknotes (preferably in a mix of a few different currencies) stashed somewhere in the house in case the ATM machines stop working for a while? It’s amazing how quickly we’ve gone from “I’ll just tap my phone” to forgetting that without electricity, all of that vanishes.

 

The truth is, most of us assume the lights will always stay on, the signal will always be there, the card machine will always work, and 99% of the time that’s true. But what if it doesn’t, just for a day or two? Can you still function? Can you buy food, get home, check on family, or even just find out TF is going on?

 

It’s a useful reminder that for all our high-tech habits, the basics still matter. A bit of cash. A charged battery pack. A flashlight. Maybe even an old school radio with real buttons. Not because the world’s ending, but because sometimes, sh*t can happen and it’s nice to be able to keep going when it does.

It's all written in govt recommendations in case of emergency. (Food, cans water, candles, matchboxes, batteries, radio, masks aso.)

So, if someone would read it..... it's all there. 👍

[1FinickyOne]

2 hours ago, giddyup said:

Then an icebox is just a box.

A kiss is just a kiss, a sigh is just a sigh... as time goes by...

[JonnyF]

A sack of charcoal and one of these stoves is handy for an emergency. That, a lake full of fish, loads of fruit trees and a few bags of rice would keep us going for a while. 

 

[ColeBOzbourne]

3 hours ago, hankypankee said:

Sure. But for just a couple of days you could survive on boiled pasta or rice. I don't keep lots of food stores, but I have a couple of kilos of dried pasta on hand. The challenge might be finding a way to boil it without having a gas burner. 

Far from gourmet dining, but even without a gas burner one can survive on cold beans eaten straight from the can, tuna, spam, sardines, crackers, nuts, raisins, dried fruits, trail mix, MRE's, freeze dried foods, granola bars, power bars, etc., etc.. Lack of drinking water could be a problem, so some type of filter might come in handy. The trick is to have a cache of similar items BEFORE the earthquake strikes. 

[Hummin]

3 hours ago, hotsun said:

Why dont you go throw something at a tesla to let off the steam

A tesla is greater as powerbank than a car 😁

 

Edit note 

 

AI says

Yes, Tesla vehicles can be used as a backup power supply, especially during emergencies like power outages. Tesla's "Powershare" feature allows users to draw power from their vehicle's battery to power their home or other devices. This can be particularly useful for critical needs like powering essential appliances or devices during a blackout. 

[jvs]

6 minutes ago, ColeBOzbourne said:

Far from gourmet dining, but even without a gas burner one can survive on cold beans from the can, tuna, spam, sardines, crackers, nuts, raisins, dried fruits, trail mix, MRE's, freeze dried foods, granola bars, power bars, etc., etc.. Lack of drinking water could be a problem, so some type of filter might come in handy. The trick is to have a cache of similar items BEFORE the earthquake strikes. 

Last weekend i did a 72 hours fast,only drank water with minerals in it.

Healthy adults would be ok not eating for a few days.

 

[Photoguy21]

I think it would send many people into panic mode. They sit all day looking at the screen on their phone and it has now become a necessity for many.

[ColeBOzbourne]

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

It's all written in govt recommendations in case of emergency. (Food, cans water, candles, matchboxes, batteries, radio, masks aso.)

So, if someone would read it..... it's all there. 👍

Agreed, yet strangely enough some AN members get rude and defensive anytime preparation (prepping) for an emergency is mentioned. Don't even suggest putting those items in a 'go-bag', or they really get their panties in a wad. 

[Hummin]

4 minutes ago, jvs said:

Last weekend i did a 72 hours fast,only drank water with minerals in it.

Healthy adults would be ok not eating for a few days.

 

I wouldn't count on it if there was a real blackout without knowing when everything coming back to normal. 

 

What was you able to do while fasting? Can you do physical work while fasting?

[save the frogs]

14 hours ago, Hummin said:

where some we have stock for months usage. 

no, months stock is useless because that's a doomsday scenario where people will be killing each other. 

 

a few days of backup as OP suggests is a good idea. 

 

don't supermarkets have backup generators? so all  you need is cash on hand and you can still pop in to a supermarket for some food. 

 

[newbee2022]

8 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

no, months stock is useless because that's a doomsday scenario where people will be killing each other. 

 

a few days of backup as OP suggests is a good idea. 

 

don't supermarkets have backup generators? so all  you need is cash on hand and you can still pop in to a supermarket for some food. 

 

No, you cannot. The supermarkets don't have generators. (?)

If no electricity....no cashiers working. Doors closed!

[Photoguy21]

A short temporary loss yes but it would be inconvenient. A long term loss of say a week would be very bad. We are far too dependent on electronic devices. 

[Hummin]

15 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

no, months stock is useless because that's a doomsday scenario where people will be killing each other. 

 

a few days of backup as OP suggests is a good idea. 

 

don't supermarkets have backup generators? so all  you need is cash on hand and you can still pop in to a supermarket for some food. 

 

Are you trying to give me advise? At a farm, a generator comes useful, not only for back up scenarios 

 

What we have in stock for months, is basic things, necessary for baking, pasta, grains, nuts, rice and dry dog, sheep food.

 

Forgot to mention, if a black out we can pump water from the well as well. We have 50m3 rainwater storage, and 8m3 with wellwater. 

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

No, you cannot. The supermarkets don't have generators. (?)

If no electricity....no cashiers working. Doors closed!

 

Maybe they should have generators.

It's a lot easier for essential services to keep running than expect the entire population to prep. 

 

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, Hummin said:

Are you trying to give me advise? At a farm, a generator comes useful, not only for back up scenarios 

 

What we have in stock for months, is basic things, necessary for baking, pasta, grains, nuts, rice

 

I'm just saying if things shut down for months on end, people will be eating each other in the streets.

And the guys with one month's supply of food will be the first to be killed.

Get a militia if you expect the grid to go down for 2 months. Or find a good place to hide. 

 

[simon43]

4 hours ago, hankypankee said:

I am not talking about a total collapse or global cyber war where the Russians, Chinese, Iranians, North Koreans or some other bad actor completely takes out the grid in some dystopian plot to bring the world to a halt. I’m only suggesting a temporary outage. Like the power blackout that hit parts of Spain and Portugal at the end of April. Power gone for a day, no internet, no phone charging, no digital payments. Suddenly, modern life grinds to a halt without any explanation. People who rely entirely on their phones found themselves cut off, not just from the nonsense worlds of Instagram and TikTok, but from real information, communication, even the ability to buy food because they couldn’t use digital technology to make payments.

 

In moments like that, it’s not the end of the world, but it can feel like it if you’re not ready, especially if you don’t really know what’s happening or how long it’s going to last. Situations where you can’t charge your phone. No QR codes. No apps. No bank transfers. You can’t even pay with a physical debit or credit card. And unless you’ve got an old-school radio stashed away with batteries in it, you won’t even know what’s actually going on. It’s the kind of situation where real cash is suddenly needed again, and so is having a bit of backup power.

 

I’m not talking about being one of those prepper nutters building fully sustained underground bunkers and hoarding ten years of canned beans. Just about common sense. Do you have a power bank of at least 20,000 milliamp with at least one full charge on it so that it could charge your phone for a few days? Do you have at least a few hundred dollar equivalent in banknotes (preferably in a mix of a few different currencies) stashed somewhere in the house in case the ATM machines stop working for a while? It’s amazing how quickly we’ve gone from “I’ll just tap my phone” to forgetting that without electricity, all of that vanishes.

 

The truth is, most of us assume the lights will always stay on, the signal will always be there, the card machine will always work, and 99% of the time that’s true. But what if it doesn’t, just for a day or two? Can you still function? Can you buy food, get home, check on family, or even just find out TF is going on?

 

It’s a useful reminder that for all our high-tech habits, the basics still matter. A bit of cash. A charged battery pack. A flashlight. Maybe even an old school radio with real buttons. Not because the world’s ending, but because sometimes, sh*t can happen and it’s nice to be able to keep going when it does.

As a radio ham, and previously living in Burma, I'm reasonably prepared for outages:

 

- Solar panel and controller to charge up 12 volt car battery

- 12 volt DC/220 volt AC inverter from that battery

- solar/hand-crank powered flashlight

- My ham radio is powered from 12 volts DC and I am able to send and receive basic emails (no big attachments) via shortwave comms using the winlink (winlink.org) network.

- I have a simple DIY water distillation system to provide potable water (Just use two 2-litre water bottles connected at their lid openings, water to be cleaned in the lower bottle, upper bottle is empty and has an outlet hole in the bottle wall about 3 cm below the cap opening.  Orientate the contraption at 45 degrees and place outside, the sun will cause the water in the lower bottle to evaporate, the water vapour rises into the upper bottle, condenses on the plastic and the drips of clean water fall by gravity out of the sidewall hole into a collecting bottle...)

 

Apart from that distillation unit, the above equipment is used daily by me, (I power my laptop, radio etc from the car battery all the time in case of power cuts), - so I know it all works!

 

I also have a huge chopper (the knife sort...), just in case the zombies try to get me....

[Hummin]

2 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

I'm just saying if things shut down for months on end, people will be eating each other in the streets.

And the guys with one month's supply of food will be the first to be killed.

Get a militia if you expect the grid to go down for 2 months. Or find a good place to hide. 

 

You have seen to much doomsday movies. Nothing I worry about, and frankly we do not stock anything, this is how a family living in a rural district do. 

 

People would try to steal, but the Thailand is rich in food, so if not a completely atom winter, there is not much that will change country side. 

 

 

[jvs]

25 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I wouldn't count on it if there was a real blackout without knowing when everything coming back to normal. 

 

What was you able to do while fasting? Can you do physical work while fasting?

I did a 48 hour fast a few weeks ago and i have been doing IF for the last two months.

The 72 hours did not slow me down at all,once your body is starting to burn fat you will not be very hungry.

I was very alert and have not experienced any negative symptoms .

 

[SkyNets]

13 minutes ago, simon43 said:

As a radio ham, and previously living in Burma, I'm reasonably prepared for outages:

 

- Solar panel and controller to charge up 12 volt car battery

- 12 volt DC/220 volt AC inverter from that battery

- solar/hand-crank powered flashlight

- My ham radio is powered from 12 volts DC and I am able to send and receive basic emails (no big attachments) via shortwave comms using the winlink (winlink.org) network.

- I have a simple DIY water distillation system to provide potable water (Just use two 2-litre water bottles connected at their lid openings, water to be cleaned in the lower bottle, upper bottle is empty and has an outlet hole in the bottle wall about 3 cm below the cap opening.  Orientate the contraption at 45 degrees and place outside, the sun will cause the water in the lower bottle to evaporate, the water vapour rises into the upper bottle, condenses on the plastic and the drips of clean water fall by gravity out of the sidewall hole into a collecting bottle...)

 

Apart from that distillation unit, the above equipment is used daily by me, (I power my laptop, radio etc from the car battery all the time in case of power cuts), - so I know it all works!

 

I also have a huge chopper (the knife sort...), just in case the zombies try to get me....

Cool, just setting up a discone annetena with a SDR usb receiver (can not transmit) fun to decode sat weather images.

My spare room runs on a small 12v solar back up for printers, tools and small ac, powers the spa below too 🙂

[simon43]

9 minutes ago, SkyNets said:

Cool, just setting up a discone annetena with a SDR usb receiver (can not transmit) fun to decode sat weather images.

My spare room runs on a small 12v solar back up for printers, tools and small ac, powers the spa below too 🙂

Excellent!  Take a look at the GG weather thread here:

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1360474-merely-reporting-the-weather-in-my-area/#comment-19828520

 

I try to post daily images from NOAA and Meteor weather satellites.

[SkyNets]

42 minutes ago, Hummin said:

You have seen to much doomsday movies. Nothing I worry about, and frankly we do not stock anything, this is how a family living in a rural district do. 

 

People would try to steal, but the Thailand is rich in food, so if not a completely atom winter, there is not much that will change country side. 

 

 

Seen too many doomsday movies, what do you mean 🙂