So Long And Thanks For All The Fish - Ukraine bombs Russian Nuclear Bombers

[transam]

17 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Again, and I say again only for the dimwitted, I've never "cheered" one side or the other on here about this war. What I post is always neutral and I challenge you to show where it hasn't been. I know you can't because as everyone knows on here you simply troll. Always deflect. To say you don't know that Russia is winning the ground war means any comment on this topic from you is not grounded in reality. As for school children showing arrows pointing one way not the other doesn't need a guess.

Yeh, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight....................🤣

 

Plus, I never said Russia isn't winning the ground war.................

 

So every one here thinks I am a troll.....................

 

Honestly chap, you really should step back and have a reality check, on yourself............

 

 

[dinsdale]

6 minutes ago, nick supreme said:

They are three years into a two week war.  Russia is a paper tiger. 

Ridiculous comment. For sure Putin thought this would be a breeze but it obviously wasn't. Ukraine had the chance to push Russia back across the border in 2022 but they couldn't. Things have changed significantly since then. If a paper tiger is winning the war then how would you describe the other side? Please say Russia isn't winning the war just to demonstrate your knowledge or obvious lack thereof of what is actually happening.

[nick supreme]

Just now, dinsdale said:

Ridiculous comment. For sure Putin thought this would be a breeze but it obviously wasn't. Ukraine had the chance to push Russia back across the border in 2022 but they couldn't. Things have changed significantly since then. If a paper tiger is winning the war then how would you describe the other side? Please say Russia isn't winning the war just to demonstrate your knowledge or obvious lack thereof of what is actually happening.

https://time.com/3259699/putin-boast-kiev-2-weeks/

 

Reports emerged Tuesday that Russian President Vladimir Putin said he could take control of Ukraine’s capital city in as little as two weeks, a remark that escalated already pitched tensions between Russia and the West in the lead-up to NATO’s summit in Wales.

[BLMFem]

54 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Yes to the first bit (actually the SBU) but as for the second bit this will be a blow more to those who should have protected the assets than Putin but you're welcome to exist in your own little world. 

 

52 minutes ago, transam said:

I believe it is you that are living in your own little world..........🤕

Yes, that's not even debatable. Anyone with two brain cell to rub together will understand that this is a hugely embarrassing blow to Putin.

[Chomper Higgot]

17 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Please.

 

Some cowardly drones. Cause a few fires. Very underhand. But hardly effective. It will have zero impact on the beating the Ukrainians are getting on every front.

Thank you for so swiftly and succinctly demonstrating the truth of the observation I made.

[jas007]

2 hours ago, LosLobo said:

But no, there was no finalized deal, no formal agreement, and no genuine Russian offer that didn’t require Ukraine to effectively surrender.

You seem to want everyone to ignore the fact that there was a genuine offer from Russia and that there still is.  You do this by pretending the offer by Russia required that Ukraine "effectively surrender" and was therefore no offer at all. You assume too much, I think. You're just begging the question. 

 

Just because there would supposedly be no guarantees does not make Russia's offer not a real offer. Hard or almost impossible to enforce, perhaps, but isn't enforcement of a contract always a problem?  Here, it's just a matter of degree. And of course, enforcement mechanisms do exist. Referral to the UN Security Council, for example. One of several available enforcement mechanisms that you would rather we all ignore. An effective solution would be problematic, to be sure, given the geopolitical backdrop, but we are, after all, talking about an agreement to end a war.  

[transam]

25 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Please.

 

Some cowardly drones. Cause a few fires. Very underhand. But hardly effective. It will have zero impact on the beating the Ukrainians are getting on every front.

Weeeell, with that comment, you have 100% shown your true colours regarding your support of the invading tyrant, Putin.

 

 

To me, Putin has egg on his face......

[Seppius]

3 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Russia would be in worse shape if the Europeans werent buying Russian gas.

Not for much longer

 

BRUSSELS, May 6 (Reuters) - The European Commission will next month propose legal measures to phase out the EU's imports of all Russian gas and liquefied natural gas by the end of 2027, it said on Tuesday.

The European Union vowed to end its decades-old energy relations with former top gas supplier Russia after Moscow's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.

 

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/eu-set-out-plan-phasing-out-final-russian-gas-supplies-2025-05-06/

 

 

[dinsdale]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

Plus, I never said Russia isn't winning the ground war.

What you said is you don't know. I asked very nicely who do you think is winning the war. You said you don't know. I never said you said Russia isn't winning the war. You can deflect as much as you like but the question is who do you think is winning the ground war? Again this is not Putin cheering it's simply the reality on the battlefield. Ukraine winning. Russian forces pushed back. Russia winning. Russian forces advancing. Can't get more basic than this. Russian forces are advancing. So why don't you know. It's pretty simple. It's war. The side gaining ground is at the time winning. Do you think Ukraine can win militarily and push Russia back across the border? Simple yes, no questions. Again you won't answer any of these direct questions and simply deflect because that's the sort of person you are. Mind you you're never shy of insults and personal attacks so maybe that's the response I'll get. Not an adult answering questions but a puerile adolescent reply.

[dinsdale]

18 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

 

Yes, that's not even debatable. Anyone with two brain cell to rub together will understand that this is a hugely embarrassing blow to Putin.

I never said it wasn't. Please show me where I said this. I said heads will roll but it wont be Putin's.

[Yagoda]

3 minutes ago, Seppius said:

Not for much longer

 

BRUSSELS, May 6 (Reuters) - The European Commission will next month propose legal measures to phase out the EU's imports of all Russian gas and liquefied natural gas by the end of 2027, it said on Tuesday.

The European Union vowed to end its decades-old energy relations with former top gas supplier Russia after Moscow's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.

 

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/eu-set-out-plan-phasing-out-final-russian-gas-supplies-2025-05-06/

 

 

Cool, keep funding death until 2027

[Seppius]

26 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Vladimir Putin is poised to strike back at Ukraine after Kyiv delivered a devastating blow to the Russian air force on Sunday, with European defence officials warning that Moscow is stockpiling a massive contingent of battle tanks and ammunition.

 

Germany's defence chief warned that Putin has fostered a massive increase in battle tanks - as many as 1,500 each year - and artillery, to be used against Ukraine

 

Chris Cavoli, NATO's top commander, echoed the concerns in recent comments, telling the Senate Armed Services Committee that Russia was replacing troops, tanks and munitions at an 'unprecedented pace', on course to 'build a stockpile three times greater than the United States and Europe combined'.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14771383/putin-revenge-spymasters-nuclear-bombers.html

 

So much for tanks being "obsolete".

Takes 3 drones for one tank, two to take it out, the third to film it

 

In this war, tanks have proved to be useless

[dinsdale]

4 minutes ago, Seppius said:

Not for much longer

 

BRUSSELS, May 6 (Reuters) - The European Commission will next month propose legal measures to phase out the EU's imports of all Russian gas and liquefied natural gas by the end of 2027, it said on Tuesday.

The European Union vowed to end its decades-old energy relations with former top gas supplier Russia after Moscow's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.

 

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/eu-set-out-plan-phasing-out-final-russian-gas-supplies-2025-05-06/

 

 

2027. Get real. Too late and the EU knows this. The EU has been funding Putin's war because it's dependent on the fuel.

[Yagoda]

2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

I never said it wasn't. Please show me where I said this. I said heads will roll but it wont be Putin's.

Its sort of a favour to us, take care of some nujes

[BLMFem]

6 hours ago, Yagoda said:

No but Ill fire one up while I respond. Tell us what tactical  purpose this attack served?

I just saw this post and I'm embarrassed on behalf of the poster for the stupidity of the question.

[Yagoda]

2 minutes ago, Seppius said:

Takes 3 drones for one tank, two to take it out, the third to film it

 

In this war, tanks have proved to be useless

Going to be even more useless when a flock of F-35s flying with 6 missle armed AI drones each hit the marshalling area

[Yagoda]

2 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

I just saw this post and I'm embarrassed on behalf of the poster for the stupidity of the question.

Im embarrassed on behalf of the human race when I read your garbage

[3NUMBAS]

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Poor man's Pearl Harbour.

 

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Poor man's Pearl Harbour.

2billion in lost aircraft ,a jackpot hit

[dinsdale]

1 minute ago, BLMFem said:

I just saw this post and I'm embarrassed on behalf of the poster for the stupidity of the question.

It's a fair question. Why don't you answer it rather than deflect?  Of course tactically there is no benefit at all but do you think there's an actual strategic benefit? Be good if you could actually answer the question. So many on here never do.

[BLMFem]

46 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Name the MAGA folks that "prefer" Putins Russia over a "democracy"

By what they've posted in this thread and others the following posters seem to favour Putin's Russia:

Frank/Dmitry, Cameroni, JaxxBKK, FlorC, jas007, impulse

[dinsdale]

1 minute ago, 3NUMBAS said:

 

2billion in lost aircraft ,a jackpot hit

Let's see the link.

 

[transam]

14 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

What you said is you don't know. I asked very nicely who do you think is winning the war. You said you don't know. I never said you said Russia isn't winning the war. You can deflect as much as you like but the question is who do you think is winning the ground war? Again this is not Putin cheering it's simply the reality on the battlefield. Ukraine winning. Russian forces pushed back. Russia winning. Russian forces advancing. Can't get more basic than this. Russian forces are advancing. So why don't you know. It's pretty simple. It's war. The side gaining ground is at the time winning. Do you think Ukraine can win militarily and push Russia back across the border? Simple yes, no questions. Again you won't answer any of these direct questions and simply deflect because that's the sort of person you are. Mind you you're never shy of insults and personal attacks so maybe that's the response I'll get. Not an adult answering questions but a puerile adolescent reply.

Ooooooh yes you did, you're cracking up mate, can't even remember your own accusation....

 

Deflect............😂

 

Plus, you are now rambling like an old school teacher, covering your....... for Putin, as well as cracking up, chap.....

 

 

 

[jas007]

5 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

By what they've posted in this thread and others the following posters seem to favour Putin's Russia:

Frank/Dmitry, Cameroni, JaxxBKK, FlorC, jas007, impulse

Maybe you should take a break or perhaps find a thread to follow where you actually understand the issues.  

[Yagoda]

4 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

By what they've posted in this thread and others the following posters seem to favour Putin's Russia:

Frank/Dmitry, Cameroni, JaxxBKK, FlorC, jas007, impulse

Oh got it so unless we kowtow the Ukrainian line we favour Putin.

 

Well as for me, I favour me and dont want to spend another dime to support one scumbag over another. You euros can figure it out, there is more of you than there are of them.

[BLMFem]

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

It's a fair question. Why don't you answer it rather than deflect?  Of course tactically there is no benefit at all but do you think there's an actual strategic benefit? Be good if you could actually answer the question. So many on here never do.

Tactically and strategically this makes it a lot more complicated for Russia to utilize their long range bombers (and other aircraft) for attacks against Ukraine.

The reason is that with this one masterful stroke Ukraine has shown that every airfield, military base. production facility in Russia is vulnerable to attack.

Russia can no longer just park aircraft on runways even though they're far away from Ukraine. They need to provide hardened shelters or risk losing these highly valuable and (in the short term) irreplaceable assets. This is time consuming and expensive.

 

There, hope that clears things up for you.

[transam]

9 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Oh got it so unless we kowtow the Ukrainian line we favour Putin.

 

Well as for me, I favour me and dont want to spend another dime to support one scumbag over another. You euros can figure it out, there is more of you than there are of them.

Didn't think you lived in the USA to worry about your dime...........🤭

[Yagoda]

Just now, transam said:

Didn't think you lived in the USA to worry about your dime...........🤭

Im sure I pay more in US taxes each year that you earn in 5 lol.

[transam]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Im sure I pay more in US taxes each year that you earn in 5 lol.

Yes you do, as I don't pay any taxes, and I don't live in Cambodia either...........🤭

[3NUMBAS]

https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2025/06/02/at-least-13-russian-strategic-aircraft-completely-destroyed/
 

7 billion of aircraft lost ,many can’t be replaced 

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, 3NUMBAS said:

https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2025/06/02/at-least-13-russian-strategic-aircraft-completely-destroyed/
 

7 billion of aircraft lost ,many can’t be replaced 

Biden left $80B in Afghanistan, plenty of those are still on the market...