homeseeker Posted June 5 Posted June 5 I am considering buying a new computer , desk top. I am not a technical person. The one suitable for me has a few available. Both very similar but the one with 65 watt is more expensive than the 35 watt one, otherwise they are more or less the same. I did an AI search which suggests that for routine computer work , emails and watching movies etc 35 watt is ok for me. Grateful for any input here before I decide... Thank u in advance.
timendres Posted June 5 Posted June 5 When you mention "35w versus 65w", I assume you are referring to the charger (the power brick). The difference is nothing more than how fast the batter will charge when you are plugged in. If you need really fast charging, select the 65w. If you do not care how long it takes to charge, select the 35w. 1
gamb00ler Posted June 5 Posted June 5 31 minutes ago, timendres said: When you mention "35w versus 65w", I assume you are referring to the charger (the power brick). The difference is nothing more than how fast the batter will charge when you are plugged in. If you need really fast charging, select the 65w. If you do not care how long it takes to charge, select the 35w. He's seeking a desktop.... not a laptop so of course there is no battery to recharge. Since it seems you've already read the specifications, why not share the details of both systems with us. Many of us understand computers very well and can offer better advice if you provide more details. Generally speaking the computer that draws more electricity will be more powerful and faster. You don't seem like you are a heavy computer user so the slower/cheaper one will likely suffice.
impulse Posted June 5 Posted June 5 19 minutes ago, gamb00ler said: He's seeking a desktop.... not a laptop so of course there is no battery to recharge. Then he really needs to provide details. Most desktops I've owned have had 250-1250W power supplies. The bigger power supplies are to run high speed graphic cards. Possibly, he's looking at a Mini PC?
homeseeker Posted June 5 Author Posted June 5 Thanks the above replies. Here below are details of the 35 watt PC and 65 watt PC Its all too technical for me so maybe someone can give me an explanation in terms a lay person can understand. Thanks so much! DELL Optiplex 7420 AIO CTO (35 Watt) Intel Core i3 14100T (12 MB cache, 4 cores, 8 threads, up to 4.4 GHz Turbo, 35W) 8GB (1X8GB )DDR5 Memory,5600,Non-ECC,SoDIMM M.2 2230 512GB PCIe NVMe Class 35 Solid State Drive Intel Integrated Graphics 23.8”, FHD 1920x1080, 60 Hz, IPS, Non-touch, Anti-Glare,250 nit, 99% sRGB, ComfortView Plus Intel(R) AX211 Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 and Bluetooth Dell Wired Keyboard KB216 Black (Thai) Dell USB Optical Mouse-MS116 (EPEAT 130W AC adapter, 7.4 mm barrel Ports Right : 1 USB 3.2 Gen 2 (10 Gbps) with PowerShare port PortsLeft : 1 Universal audio port Below Display: 1 USB 3.2 Gen 2 (10 Gbps) Type-C® port Back panel: 2 USB 3.2 Gen 1 (5 Gbps) ports 2 USB 2.0 (480 Mbps) with SmartPower On ports 1 Audio line-out port, retaskable 1 DisplayPort++ 1.4a/HDCP 2.3 port 1 RJ45 Ethernet Por Windows 11 Pro, English (ติดตั้งจากโรงงาน) 3 Year Pro Support Onsite Service by DELL Thailand Compared to: DELL Optiplex 7420 AIO (65 Watt) Intel Core i7-14700 (33 MB Smart Cache, 20-Cores(8-P, 12-E)/28-Threads, 2.1 GHz up to 5.4 GHz Turbo) 8GB (1x 8GB) DDR5 5600 SO-DIMM, Non-ECC M.2 2230 512GB PCIe NVMe Class 35 Solid State Drive 23.8”, FHD 1920×1080, 60 Hz, IPS, Touchscreen, AntiGlare, 300 nit, 99% sRGB, ComfortView Plus, Pen support Intel UHD Graphics 770 Intel(R) AX211 Wi-Fi 6E 2×2 and Bluetooth Dell Pro Wireless Keyboard and Mouse – KM5221W – Thailand 160W 80+ Bronze internal power supply unit (PSU) Ports : 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 (10 Gbps) with PowerShare port (Right) 1x Universal audio (Left) 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 (10 Gbps) Type-C® (Below) Rear Ports : 1x HDMI-in 1.4b 1x HDMI-out 2.1 1x DisplayPort++ 1.4a 1x RJ45 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet 2x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1 3x USB-A 3.2 Gen 2 1x audio line-out Dimension (WxHxD) : 21.26 in. (540.00 mm) x 13.95 in. (354.30 mm) x 2.28 in. (57.90 mm) Weight : 13.93 lbs. (6.32 kg) (without stand) Windows 11 Pro, English (ติดตั้งจากโรงงาน) 3 Year Pro Support Onsite Service by DELL Thailand
KhunBENQ Posted June 5 Posted June 5 Ok so no classical desktop tower but an "AIO" all in one. Means all components combined with the screen in one case that stands on the desktop. You don't sound like a power user with need for highest performance. The 65W model has an i7 CPU (processor) which should provide more power/speed. Whether you need it? Both have 8 GB RAM (volatile memory). Just enough for Windows 11. Both have 512 GB SSD (solid state storage). No moving parts. Very fast. If you are not into big collection of videos and images that is enough.
KhunBENQ Posted June 5 Posted June 5 Provide some idea what you want to do with the device and you could get more specific advice.
impulse Posted June 5 Posted June 5 33 minutes ago, homeseeker said: Thanks the above replies. Here below are details of the 35 watt PC and 65 watt PC Its all too technical for me so maybe someone can give me an explanation in terms a lay person can understand. Thanks so much! DELL Optiplex 7420 AIO CTO (35 Watt) Intel Core i3 14100T (12 MB cache, 4 cores, 8 threads, up to 4.4 GHz Turbo, 35W) 8GB (1X8GB )DDR5 Memory,5600,Non-ECC,SoDIMM M.2 2230 512GB PCIe NVMe Class 35 Solid State Drive Intel Integrated Graphics 23.8”, FHD 1920x1080, 60 Hz, IPS, Non-touch, Anti-Glare,250 nit, 99% sRGB, ComfortView Plus Intel(R) AX211 Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 and Bluetooth Dell Wired Keyboard KB216 Black (Thai) Dell USB Optical Mouse-MS116 (EPEAT 130W AC adapter, 7.4 mm barrel Ports Right : 1 USB 3.2 Gen 2 (10 Gbps) with PowerShare port PortsLeft : 1 Universal audio port Below Display: 1 USB 3.2 Gen 2 (10 Gbps) Type-C® port Back panel: 2 USB 3.2 Gen 1 (5 Gbps) ports 2 USB 2.0 (480 Mbps) with SmartPower On ports 1 Audio line-out port, retaskable 1 DisplayPort++ 1.4a/HDCP 2.3 port 1 RJ45 Ethernet Por Windows 11 Pro, English (ติดตั้งจากโรงงาน) 3 Year Pro Support Onsite Service by DELL Thailand Compared to: DELL Optiplex 7420 AIO (65 Watt) Intel Core i7-14700 (33 MB Smart Cache, 20-Cores(8-P, 12-E)/28-Threads, 2.1 GHz up to 5.4 GHz Turbo) 8GB (1x 8GB) DDR5 5600 SO-DIMM, Non-ECC M.2 2230 512GB PCIe NVMe Class 35 Solid State Drive 23.8”, FHD 1920×1080, 60 Hz, IPS, Touchscreen, AntiGlare, 300 nit, 99% sRGB, ComfortView Plus, Pen support Intel UHD Graphics 770 Intel(R) AX211 Wi-Fi 6E 2×2 and Bluetooth Dell Pro Wireless Keyboard and Mouse – KM5221W – Thailand 160W 80+ Bronze internal power supply unit (PSU) Ports : 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 (10 Gbps) with PowerShare port (Right) 1x Universal audio (Left) 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 (10 Gbps) Type-C® (Below) Rear Ports : 1x HDMI-in 1.4b 1x HDMI-out 2.1 1x DisplayPort++ 1.4a 1x RJ45 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet 2x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1 3x USB-A 3.2 Gen 2 1x audio line-out Dimension (WxHxD) : 21.26 in. (540.00 mm) x 13.95 in. (354.30 mm) x 2.28 in. (57.90 mm) Weight : 13.93 lbs. (6.32 kg) (without stand) Windows 11 Pro, English (ติดตั้งจากโรงงาน) 3 Year Pro Support Onsite Service by DELL Thailand Search for a Passmark CPU benchmark for the 2 CPU's and you'll get a good comparison of their speeds. The I3-14100T is a little slow in today's world. (7705 is what I see, but cpubenchmark.net is blocked here right now) The I7-14700 is respectable at 15952. (Again, look it up yourself since I don't have access to the gold standard cpubenchmark.net) Either one will play videos, etc. But I'd opt for the I7 if you can afford it. In case you decide to change your usage later for gaming, etc. I also run huge spreadsheets for business and the faster processor is very handy for graphing. The 35W vs 65W is apparently just to run the CPU. All the other processes like video, HD's etc. will be driven by a much larger power supply.
johng Posted June 5 Posted June 5 45 minutes ago, homeseeker said: Intel Core i3 14100T (12 MB cache, 4 cores, 8 threads, up to 4.4 GHz Turbo, 35W) The 35W refers to the maximum power used by the CPU..not including the other pc components like disk drives monitor speakers etc . Generally CPU's that use less power are less powerful/slower but run cooler so can be quieter,and of course cost less to run in electricity bills.
homeseeker Posted June 5 Author Posted June 5 25 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said: Provide some idea what you want to do with the device and you could get more specific advice. Well general computer stuff: e mails some netflix movies / u tube videos etc do some writing occasionally for fun..and watch live english football when season returns...not interested in gaming '.
howto Posted June 7 Posted June 7 Please be aware; for the Intel Core i7-14700 the TDP is 65 watts at 'Idle' however TDP is 219 watts in 'Turbo Mode'.
SMIAI Posted June 10 Posted June 10 Took a look.... IMO, tremendously poor value at approx. 30k and 42k respectively. Relatively low RAM Not a particularly bright screen and it's only FHD. The cheaper one has no touch capability. A standalone monitor of the same spec costs less than 3k. So you are paying 27k for what exactly? Nothing special, other than a three year warranty. File under more money than sense. Consider a Mini PC in conjunction with your TV and a wireless keyboard if you want an unobtrusive solution. Random example at 17k. https://www.gmktec.com/products/amd-ryzen-7-8845hs-mini-pc-nucbox-k8-plus https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/6134vs5915/Intel-i3-14100T-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-8845HS
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