California in Uproar as Newsom Condemns Trump’s Troop Deployment as ‘Deranged Fantasy’

[impulse]

4 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Gov. George Wallace told LBJ that the state was unable and refused to provide for the safety and welfare of the protesters. Gov. Newsome had everything under control and didn't request for federal intervention. That's the difference. 

 

Does this look under control?

 

 

Or this?

 

[Eric Loh]

16 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Does this look under control?

 

 

Or this?

 

Was that after Trump sent in the military without legal justification?

[Purdey]

On 6/11/2025 at 5:07 AM, dinsdale said:

Paid protesters supported by the lunatic rhetoric from the left.

Could you provide a link to the evidence please? 

[dinsdale]

4 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Could you provide a link to the evidence please? 

Investigations are underway. There are NGO's in CA that get got federal funding. Where did the money come from to supply riot masks etc.  to the protestors rioters? 

[kimothai]

50 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Under which aspect of the Constitution and federal law for Trump to send in the military. 

Insurrection act (10 U.S. code 251-255).  Are you that F*ing lazy that you can't do your own research?  This is why James Carville described lefties as stunning stupid.

[impulse]

10 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Could you provide a link to the evidence please? 

 

Google:  LA’s top cop blames masked professional ‘anarchists’ for chaos at ICE protests

 

Then Google the definition of "professional".

 

[dinsdale]

Just now, kimothai said:

Insurrection act (10 U.S. code 251-255).  Are you that F*ing lazy that you can't do your own research?  This is why James Carville described lefties as stunning stupid.

Trolls never do any actual research. They just parrot talking points that support their own narrow view.

[transam]

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

Trolls never do any actual research. They just parrot talking points that support their own narrow view.

A bit like you, then, a fixation with the word 'Troll'........🤔

[spidermike007]

On 6/11/2025 at 6:14 AM, Dan747 said:

 While the city burns to the ground Newsome and Bass are looking for their marshmallows…..

Domestic Terrorism Offense Prohibits intentionally or knowingly committing a felony that involves the use of a deadly weapon or infliction of serious injury with the intent to influence state government policy or actions, substantially damage or interrupt public services, intimidate civilians, or further the goals of any terrorist organization. The offense is a Class 2 felony, punishable by up to life in prison. "ACCOUNTABILITY PLEASE!!"

Completely ridiculous commentary like this skews the entire debate and sends it off into a deranged territory of highly partisan politics. 

 

In case you didn't realize that Los Angeles is a huge city of 470 square miles and that's just the city limits. These protests are going on in a few square blocks. Although a few vehicles have burned this doesn't quite hold up to the level of the George Floyd protests.

 

Are you rational enough to understand that? Or just blinkered? 

[Eric Loh]

4 minutes ago, kimothai said:

Insurrection act (10 U.S. code 251-255).  Are you that F*ing lazy that you can't do your own research?  This is why James Carville described lefties as stunning stupid.

He didn't invoke the Insurrection Act for deploying troops to LA. Quote me if you have that evidence. I am waiting. Are you that dumb or just clutching straw. 

[dinsdale]

1 minute ago, transam said:

A bit like you, then, a fixation with the word 'Troll'........🤔

I have no "fixation" with the term troll. It simply fits some on here perfectly. Those who parrot the narrative and supply no actual counter points. Bit like you.

[LosLobo]

3 hours ago, jimmybcool said:

You need to get a grip man.   Unless of course you can cite a source that shows they are being issued live ammo I'll throw the BS flag on that.  But then you outed yourself as a left wing crazy when you use terms like "fascist" and "trampling innocent protestors".  Turn of CNN and MSNBC.  it is rotting your brain.

 

Under the burden-of-proof principle, I have no obligation to disprove your baseless “no ammo” claim.

Out of kindness to the less informed, I cited as a source the DoD statutes to support my argument.
 

I’ve already explained it ; I can’t understand it for you!
 

PS: I watch Fox now and then for a laugh—does that cause “brain rot,” or just leave me less informed?

[transam]

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

I have no "fixation" with the term troll. It simply fits some on here perfectly. Those who parrot the narrative and supply no actual counter points. Bit like you.

This is a chat forum for all, not just folk who think they are better ....🧐.....than others, ...🤔

[ThreeCardMonte]

31 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Was that after Trump sent in the military without legal justification?

BS.

 

Even if it was true.

 

Their presence justifies the violence?

 

Leftits logic 101

[dinsdale]

13 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

He didn't invoke the Insurrection Act for deploying troops to LA. Quote me if you have that evidence. I am waiting. Are you that dumb or just clutching straw. 

Quite correct. He said he's considering it. What your evading though is he doesn't have to invoke the insurrection Act in relation to the deployment of the National Guard and a contingent of Marines. What invoking the Insurrection Act would mean is the Marines could engage in law enforcement activities and as it is this is not the case. They Marines have been deployed to work in conjunction with the National Guard to protect Federal employees and property. I guess MSNBC and the idiot women on the view haven't made this clear to you.

[impulse]

Here's another view of the "mostly peacefuls":

 

 

From Saturday, when Bass and Newsom were claiming they had it under control.

 

Edit:  That's the 101, BTW.  A major road that thousands depend on every hour to get through LA.  Which affects interstate commerce.  Not just LA and not just California.  The entire country...

 

 

 

[dinsdale]

4 minutes ago, transam said:

This is a chat forum for all, not just folk who think they are better ....🧐.....than others, ...🤔

There's chatting, there's arguing a point with supported counter arguments and there's trolling. 

[transam]

6 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

There's chatting, there's arguing a point with supported counter arguments and there's trolling. 

We already know that, but you bandy the troll thing about when you don't like a reply......🤔

 

How many times have you used the word 'troll' today....?....🤗

[DezLez]

6 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

CA was a very different place in 1965.  

So was most of the rest of the world back then.

[still kicking]

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[Eric Loh]

26 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Quite correct. He said he's considering it. What your evading though is he doesn't have to invoke the insurrection Act in relation to the deployment of the National Guard and a contingent of Marines. What invoking the Insurrection Act would mean is the Marines could engage in law enforcement activities and as it is this is not the case. They Marines have been deployed to work in conjunction with the National Guard to protect Federal employees and property. I guess MSNBC and the idiot women on the view haven't made this clear to you.

So you agree that there are no legal justifications to deploy troops. Just demonstrate to me that he is lawless and acting like an authoritarian leader. But you maga folks are ok with that. 

[dinsdale]

[dinsdale]

3 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

So you agree that there are no legal justifications to deploy troops. Just demonstrate to me that he is lawless and acting like an authoritarian leader. But you maga folks are ok with that. 

Where did I say that? I said Trump hasn't as of yet invoked the Insurrection Act. He doesn't need to invoke the Act to deploy the National Guard and Marines and what he's done is lawful.

[Eric Loh]

 

9 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Where did I say that? I said Trump hasn't as of yet invoked the Insurrection Act. He doesn't need to invoke the Act to deploy the National Guard and Marines and what he's done is lawful.

If lawful, please quote the law. He use a US Code on Armed Service to deploy troops which is not a law in traditional sense. More like guidelines and will not hold up in court if challenged. 

[Bannoi]

With the amount of guns in America I'm surprised there has not been any fatalities yet.

[dinsdale]

22 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

 

If lawful, please quote the law. He use a US Code on Armed Service to deploy troops which is not a law in traditional sense. More like guidelines and will not hold up in court if challenged. 

Title 10, Section 12406 of the U.S. Code,

The precedents for not going through the governor is President Lyndon B. Johnson, 1963, Alabama and the 1992 LA Rodney King riots.

https://time.com/7292433/trump-national-guard-la-protests/

[dinsdale]

I've just seen this. Lays things out quite nicely.

 

[kimothai]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

He didn't invoke the Insurrection Act for deploying troops to LA. Quote me if you have that evidence. I am waiting. Are you that dumb or just clutching straw. 

Trump could have used the Insurrection Act (which authorized him), but he didn't too.  He simply invoked Title 10 authority (to protect federal personnel and property).  I'm tired of doing research for you.  Either you think you are entitled or as I said before, "stunningly stupid" or maybe just too lazy.  This research only takes 10-15 seconds to do, but in your case maybe longer since I'm guessing you can only type with one finger.  

[mogandave]

5 hours ago, Woke to Sounds said:

 

Can't be easy, I appreciate that.

 

Roofies work their axrses off.  I admire their skills providing an essential service like shelter.

 

But I already put in my time and it was not gravy.

 

Fact is the system was rigged in the Boomer generation's favour because that is what the system needed at that time.

 

The system doesn't need the same dynamics now.

 

Look at Gen Z. They are, on average, f00ked compared to even Generation X.

 

Six roommates to afford rent in San Francisco / Toronto / Auckland / Sydney / L.A. / London??

 

Never in my day, and certainly I dare say never in yours.

What kind of work did you do?

 

 

[Mike_Hunt]

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Completely ridiculous commentary like this skews the entire debate and sends it off into a deranged territory of highly partisan politics. 

 

 

This is your MO dude.