USA Millions Plan “No Kings” Day of Protest as Trump’s Birthday Parade Sparks Backlash

[Mike_Hunt]

42 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I suppose $997 billion on defense is nothing too.

 

 

And the US spends 4X that sum on social programs. 

[Yellowtail]

 

3 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Please tell me how you justify spending between $25 and $50 million on a military parade/birthday celebration, when 11 million children in America live below the poverty line.

This $200M Elon picked up yesterday should cover the parade. 

 

Oh, and most of those 11 million children in America that live below the poverty line are in California, the bluest state in the Union, and the richest. 

 

 

[BLMFem]

12 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

 

This $200M Elon picked up yesterday should cover the parade. 

 

Oh, and most of those 11 million children in America that live below the poverty line are in California, the bluest state in the Union, and the richest. 

 

 

Yes, because we've seen how reliable and honest those DOGE numbers have been, haven't we.😆

 

Let's see those child poverty numbers per capita*, shall we buddy? Do you maybe see a blue state/red state trend here?

 

*As provided by ChatGPT.

[billd766]

7 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

But nothing compared to the Democrats.

Put some links and figures up for proof.

[Yellowtail]

6 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Yes, because we've seen how reliable and honest those DOGE numbers have been, haven't we.😆

 

Let's see those child poverty numbers per capita*, shall we buddy? Do you maybe see a blue state/red state trend here?

 

*As provided by ChatGPT.

[BLMFem]

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

So you agree that CA is in no way the state with the highest child poverty rate per capita?

 

Grok:

"The most recent comprehensive data on child poverty rates in the United States by state is from the U.S. Census Bureau’s 2022 American Community Survey (ACS), as cited in various sources."

 

If you want me to send you the complete answer, including numbers from all 50 states, I'm more than willing to do so. Always fun to enlighten people!

 

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

So you agree that CA is in no way the state with the highest child poverty rate per capita?

 

Grok:

"The most recent comprehensive data on child poverty rates in the United States by state is from the U.S. Census Bureau’s 2022 American Community Survey (ACS), as cited in various sources."

 

If you want me to send you the complete answer, including numbers from all 50 states, I'm more than willing to do so. Always fun to enlighten people!

 

"California continues to grapple with significant levels of poverty, leading the nation as the state with the highest poverty rate with disproportionately higher impacts on Black and Latino residents."

 

 

https://calmatters.org/california-divide/2024/12/income-inequality-2024-review/

California income inequality 2024 year in review - CalMatters

[Yellowtail]

5 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

So you agree that CA is in no way the state with the highest child poverty rate per capita?

 

Grok:

"The most recent comprehensive data on child poverty rates in the United States by state is from the U.S. Census Bureau’s 2022 American Community Survey (ACS), as cited in various sources."

 

If you want me to send you the complete answer, including numbers from all 50 states, I'm more than willing to do so. Always fun to enlighten people!

 

What is it with people who can't get it through their skulls that links have to be provided. Is it really that difficult?

[gamb00ler]

52 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Oh, and most of those 11 million children in America that live below the poverty line are in California, the bluest state in the Union, and the richest. 

You really should avoid statistics because you almost never use them correctly.  The result is that you prove that you're far less able to interpret the statistics than most of those who bother to read your posts.  Of course CA has 'most of those'.... it's a big f'n state and a big f'n population..... but the relevant statistic (that you don't mention) is they do much better (on child poverty) per capita than most red states, despite having a humungous population of immigrants who start at the bottom rung of the income ladder.  CA... the land of opportunity vs the land of high systemic poverty in red states.

[TedG]

43 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

So you agree that CA is in no way the state with the highest child poverty rate per capita?

 

Grok:

"The most recent comprehensive data on child poverty rates in the United States by state is from the U.S. Census Bureau’s 2022 American Community Survey (ACS), as cited in various sources."

 

If you want me to send you the complete answer, including numbers from all 50 states, I'm more than willing to do so. Always fun to enlighten people!

 

There is a different story told when using the Supplemental Poverty Measure

 

 

https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2024/10/child-supplemental-poverty-measure.html

 

 

[Yellowtail]

7 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

You really should avoid statistics because you almost never use them correctly.  The result is that you prove that you're far less able to interpret the statistics than most of those who bother to read your posts.  Of course CA has 'most of those'.... it's a big f'n state and a big f'n population..... but the relevant statistic (that you don't mention) is they do much better (on child poverty) per capita than most red states, despite having a humungous population of immigrants who start at the bottom rung of the income ladder.  CA... the land of opportunity vs the land of high systemic poverty in red states.

 

What I said was This $200M Elon picked up yesterday should cover the parade. 

 

 

Oh, and most of those 11 million children in America that live below the poverty line are in California, the bluest state in the Union, and the richest. 

 

 

So is 18.9% is better than most red states? 

 

[TedG]

9 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

You really should avoid statistics because you almost never use them correctly.  The result is that you prove that you're far less able to interpret the statistics than most of those who bother to read your posts.  Of course CA has 'most of those'.... it's a big f'n state and a big f'n population..... but the relevant statistic (that you don't mention) is they do much better (on child poverty) per capita than most red states, despite having a humungous population of immigrants who start at the bottom rung of the income ladder.  CA... the land of opportunity vs the land of high systemic poverty in red states.

The poverty rate is not a good measure; it does not include government assistance. 

 

The SPM broadens the official poverty measure by accounting for government programs designed to assist low-income families that are not included in the official poverty rate.

It also includes necessary expenses and federal and state taxes and credits like the Child Tax Credit – and considers geographic variation in housing costs and housing tenure (whether one rents or owns their home with or without a mortgage) in poverty thresholds, while the official poverty measure does not. 

[gamb00ler]

48 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What is it with people who can't get it through their skulls that links have to be provided. Is it really that difficult?

He gave the organization's name and the year of the statistical analysis... that's sufficient if you're competent.  Are you claiming you're not competent?

[gamb00ler]

11 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

 

What I said was This $200M Elon picked up yesterday should cover the parade. 

 

 

Oh, and most of those 11 million children in America that live below the poverty line are in California, the bluest state in the Union, and the richest. 

 

 

So is 18.9% is better than most red states? 

 

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/stories/2024/09/acs-child-poverty/figure-1-child-poverty.jpg

 

Nice easy colored drawing for the intellectually challenged.

[Yellowtail]

So, the richest, bluest state has one of, if not the highest poverty rate in the country at 18.9%. 

 

"California continues to grapple with significant levels of poverty, leading the nation as the state with the highest poverty rate with disproportionately higher impacts on Black and Latino residents.

 

According to the latest available Census data, the state’s poverty rate increased to 18.9% in 2023, up from 16.4% in 2022 and 11.0% in 2021. The state’s poverty rate was particularly high among Black and Latino Californians and higher than the 2019 pre-pandemic numbers."

 

 

 

https://calmatters.org/california-divide/2024/12/income-inequality-2024-review/

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/stories/2024/09/acs-child-poverty/figure-1-child-poverty.jpg

 

Nice easy colored drawing for the intellectually challenged.

Once again, California beats every other state when it comes to poverty

 

"Actually, California’s official poverty number, as calculated by the Census Bureau for the 2021-23 window, was not terrible at 11.7% of its nearly 40 million residents, just slightly higher than the 11.4% national figure. But the official percentage, calculated by a formula that hasn’t changed in decades and assumes the underlying economic conditions are the same everywhere, is widely rejected by academics."

 

https://calmatters.org/commentary/2024/09/california-again-top-state-poverty/

[BLMFem]

12 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

 

What I said was This $200M Elon picked up yesterday should cover the parade. 

 

 

Oh, and most of those 11 million children in America that live below the poverty line are in California, the bluest state in the Union, and the richest. 

 

 

So is 18.9% is better than most red states? 

 

This is...ah, disingenuous, to be polite. Which state, by far, is the most populated state in the US?

Now, run along tiger boy (?) before you make an even bigger fool of yourself, okay?👍 

[Yellowtail]

So why does the richest, bluest state in county have such a high poverty rate at 18.9%?

[Yellowtail]

Just now, BLMFem said:

This is...ah, disingenuous, to be polite. Which state, by far, is the most populated state in the US?

Now, run along tiger boy (?) before you make an even bigger fool of yourself, okay?👍 

So, the richest, bluest state has one of, if not the highest poverty rate in the country at 18.9%. 

 

"California continues to grapple with significant levels of poverty, leading the nation as the state with the highest poverty rate with disproportionately higher impacts on Black and Latino residents.

According to the latest available Census data, the state’s poverty rate increased to 18.9% in 2023, up from 16.4% in 2022 and 11.0% in 2021. The state’s poverty rate was particularly high among Black and Latino Californians and higher than the 2019 pre-pandemic numbers."

 

 

https://calmatters.org/california-divide/2024/12/income-inequality-2024-review/

[BLMFem]

10 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

He gave the organization's name and the year of the statistical analysis... that's sufficient if you're competent.  Are you claiming you're not competent?

No, I'm claiming he breaks forum rules. Are you claiming you don't know that?

[gamb00ler]

5 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

No, I'm claiming he breaks forum rules. Are you claiming you don't know that?

I got confused by this response..... my response was to @Yellowtail's complaint that you didn't provide a link to the data you presented.  I defended your post because it clearly cited the source of your data, just not in link format.

[gamb00ler]

1 hour ago, Mike_Hunt said:

And the US spends 4X that sum on social programs. 

You do know that Social Security is not funded by the US Federal budget, right?  It is 100% funded by employment taxes which are collected by the US government but then set aside in the Social Security trust funds for expenditure solely by SSA.  No other federal revenue flows to the Social Security system.

 

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

I got confused by this response..... my response was to @Yellowtail's complaint that you didn't provide a link to the data you presented.  I defended your post because it clearly cited the source of your data, just not in link format.

I was razzing it. I just cut-and-pasted her "What is it with people who can't get it through their skulls that links have to be provided. Is it really that difficult?"  from another thread where she used it to take someone else to task for not posting a link. 

[BLMFem]

10 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

I got confused by this response..... my response was to @Yellowtail's complaint that you didn't provide a link to the data you presented.  I defended your post because it clearly cited the source of your data, just not in link format.

Then we got it mixed up. 🫡

[Yellowtail]

https://www.usaspending.gov/agency/social-security-administration?fy=2025

Social Security Administration (SSA) | Spending Profile | USAspending

 

[gamb00ler]

23 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Once again, California beats every other state when it comes to poverty

 

"Actually, California’s official poverty number, as calculated by the Census Bureau for the 2021-23 window, was not terrible at 11.7% of its nearly 40 million residents, just slightly higher than the 11.4% national figure. But the official percentage, calculated by a formula that hasn’t changed in decades and assumes the underlying economic conditions are the same everywhere, is widely rejected by academics."

 

https://calmatters.org/commentary/2024/09/california-again-top-state-poverty/

Nice try.... I did not compare CA to the national average.... is your reading ability that impaired?

I DID compare to most of the red states which DO have very high child poverty rates.

If you're not going to read my posts carefully... don't respond to them.

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

Nice try.... I did not compare CA to the national average.... is your reading ability that impaired?

I DID compare to most of the red states which DO have very high child poverty rates.

If you're not going to read my posts carefully... don't respond to them.

So which states have poverty rates higher than California's 18.9%? 

 

[gamb00ler]

7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

https://www.usaspending.gov/agency/social-security-administration?fy=2025

Social Security Administration (SSA) | Spending Profile | USAspending

 

You ARE extremely adept at finding websites that seem reliable but in fact are not.  Coincidentally (maybe) they seem to reflect your distorted view of the world.

The actual TRUTH:

 

https://www.ssa.gov/history/BudgetTreatment.html#:~:text=1- Social Security was off,for all purposes since 1990.

 

 

[gamb00ler]

6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

So which states have poverty rates higher than California's 18.9%? 

 

Your numbers are old/wrong.... see my response in another post.

[Yellowtail]

Just now, gamb00ler said:

Your numbers are old/wrong.... see my response in another post.

From my link, 2024

 

"California continues to grapple with significant levels of poverty, leading the nation as the state with the highest poverty rate with disproportionately higher impacts on Black and Latino residents.

According to the latest available Census data, the state’s poverty rate increased to 18.9% in 2023, up from 16.4% in 2022 and 11.0% in 2021. The state’s poverty rate was particularly high among Black and Latino Californians and higher than the 2019 pre-pandemic numbers."

 

From your link, 2023: