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2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Why do you keep saying it was open borders. That has some believe anyone can come in unvetted, which isn't near the truth. There hasn't been open borders since the 1920's.  Many come in every day, and have all along, including now and every day since time began. Biden wanted families to be reunited, which isn't a wrong thing. They have been, still are, and always will, stop and deport those here illegally. Your last two sentences were correct.

I keep saying open borders because that's what is was. Estimates of 20 million plus in 4 years. This wasn't controlled legal immigration hence the term "open borders".

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16 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

I keep saying open borders because that's what is was. Estimates of 20 million plus in 4 years. This wasn't controlled legal immigration hence the term "open borders".

Estimates mean nothing as non on on earth knows how many come in daily They came in during Biden's time and during trump's time, and continue every day. Open means anyone can come. They allow certain people in, family members and asylum seekers. Those looking to work illegally aren't allowed, nor are criminals, but they'll keep coming as long as rich Americans hire them. 

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27 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Estimates mean nothing as non on on earth knows how many come in daily They came in during Biden's time and during trump's time, and continue every day. Open means anyone can come. They allow certain people in, family members and asylum seekers. Those looking to work illegally aren't allowed, nor are criminals, but they'll keep coming as long as rich Americans hire them. 

You seem to have lost touch with reality. 

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8 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

The taxpayers who would have to pay the multi million dollar  settlements that would follow will not be as  supportive or thrilled by this PR stunt. County attorney  must be having conniptions as it is the worst possible thing to say.

No I am not supporting violent thugs, nor saying LEO should not defend against assaults. However, if you are one of the people who is struck by a police bullet, because you were in the wrong place at the wrong time, you will be very angry. Some police forces are  trigger happy, and innocent people suffer because of it. There are long established rules guidelines regarding the use of lethal force, and saying what he did, goes against them.

I will agree about the rules of lethal force. But, when a person is hurling bricks at a police officer, that person should expect to be "shot Graveyard dead"

 

Unless you're retarded and wandered away from your handler, people should know better than to go near the protests and or riots.

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Posted
11 hours ago, ThreeCardMonte said:


Shut up

Pretty much the peak of your ability to express your point of view and persuade others.

After this brilliant post you can call it a day with pride.

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4 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

You seem to have lost touch with reality. 

No, I actually see things just the way they are, because I don't take sides, I lived in Texas 32 years, talked to border agents weekly, saw illegals coming in almost every time I hunted south Texas, watched them cross roads and ranches, talked to land owners, who were actually there daily, instead of listening to biased news posts.

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11 hours ago, Tug said:

Stop sending combat ready unidentified people in unmarked vehicles to grab folks off the streets and shipping them off to foreign supermax prisons without giving them a chance to defend themselves and things wouldn’t get out of hand.stop trying to inflame issues and instigating unrest and things would be calmer.

Stop spewing your America hating and terrorist supporting lies

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2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

No, I actually see things just the way they are, because I don't take sides, I lived in Texas 32 years, talked to border agents weekly, saw illegals coming in almost every time I hunted south Texas, watched them cross roads and ranches, talked to land owners, who were actually there daily, instead of listening to biased news posts.

No you didnt.

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Posted
10 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Wayne's killed a few burgers

I got a jiggy friend too around my waist. Makes it tough to go prone for long range work, but shouldnt effect my use of the living room couch as a rest and cover as I play shooting gallery on a home invader.

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3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

God botherer telling other people to be rational ....... you gotta laugh!

Yes, those who aren't open minded enough, are biased or prejudiced in their thinking, or educated enough tend to dismiss those that know a lot more than they do. We do laugh.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Were you there? I was.

Next you will tell us you never heard of illegal alien crime in all your Texas investigations LOL

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Just now, Yagoda said:

Next you will tell us you never heard of illegal alien crime in all your Texas investigations LOL

I lived there for 62 years, do you think I wasn't aware of what went on? I sold guns, was in the business, and had many officials as customers who told their stories. A lot more in the deal than someone who neither lives near it all, or only went by the one sides biased opinions.

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12 hours ago, Tug said:

Stop sending combat ready unidentified people in unmarked vehicles to grab folks off the streets and shipping them off to foreign supermax prisons without giving them a chance to defend themselves and things wouldn’t get out of hand.stop trying to inflame issues and instigating unrest and things would be calmer.

Hard to judge from the media reports.

However, I saw a video of 3 military combat garbed individuals pinning a fruit vendor to the ground. (Possibly he was armed with a kitchen knife for slicing mangos.)

 

That sounds exactly like the kind of thing Tug is talking about.

I hate to see the US become the kind of nation that uses its military against its own people like so many repressive regimes seem to do.

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2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I lived there for 62 years, do you think I wasn't aware of what went on?

Well based on your posts, yes I do.

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Just now, dinsdale said:

You seem to have already forgotten your OP where you said the borders weren't open. The borders were wide open and Trump has now closed them. If you deny this then you have a problem.

You are so out of reality and being a Trump supporter further shows just why. The borders have not been open for a century plus. People come in every day, and will continue to, and if you think Trump is stopping them, you're dead wrong. They don't care about policy, laws or what might happen. There is money to be made, there are Americans hiring these illegals, and they'll keep coming. Trump is kicking people out , some of which should be allowed to stay. Getting those that are illegals out has been going on since they closed the borders. People are deported daily, and come in daily, and that will never stop. Wake up and see the reality and not be blinded by hero worship.

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1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Well based on your posts, yes I do.

My posts are factual. Yours are hero worship. Quite a bit of difference there.

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3 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

However, I saw a video of 3 military combat garbed individuals pinning a fruit vendor to the ground.

Was he wanted? For? Source?

 

3 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

I hate to see the US become the kind of nation that uses its military against its own people like so many repressive regimes seem to do.

The military is not used for LE here. And our cops dont stand around with machine guns like they do in Europe.

 

But of course you will take the side of terrorists and America haters.

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1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Trump is kicking people out , some of which should be allowed to stay.

Which ones should stay? 

Posted
1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Which ones should stay? 

Those that have legal close family members already there working, and those seeking asylum from a dangerous situation.

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1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

He can spot a narcissist from a mile away though .........

Not hard when they expose themselves with their words and actions.

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5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

You are so out of reality and being a Trump supporter further shows just why. The borders have not been open for a century plus. People come in every day, and will continue to, and if you think Trump is stopping them, you're dead wrong. They don't care about policy, laws or what might happen. There is money to be made, there are Americans hiring these illegals, and they'll keep coming. Trump is kicking people out , some of which should be allowed to stay. Getting those that are illegals out has been going on since they closed the borders. People are deported daily, and come in daily, and that will never stop. Wake up and see the reality and not be blinded by hero worship.

So in a single post you say the borders have never been open but have now been closed.

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1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Those that have legal close family members already there working, and those seeking asylum from a dangerous situation.

Got it. So you support the Biden open border agenda. Climb the fence and scream asylum.

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2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Christians?

God forbid. Thats The religion of hate where its convert or die. Cant have those haters here, need more folks from the Religion of Peace, the Muslims.

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1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Got it. So you support the Biden open border agenda. Climb the fence and scream asylum.

No, you don't "got it". Re read what I've been saying all along.

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