USA Trump Hesitates on New Russia Sanctions, Urges Europe to Take the Lead

[DonniePeverley]

I thought he was going to solve everything on day 1 ?

[Geir Rasch]

45 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Your cognitive bias means you cannot see all the lies and contradictions and the hypocrisy.

I can - and it is evident on both sides - like all rational people - but far more from the left. 

I dont read or watch Truth Social or Facebook or Twitter - it is all BS - from both sides. 

You don’t read social media and supposedly not MSM, so I just wander: where do you get your wisdom from? Is it from your genius self or from some conspiracy media? I read that older people are more likely to believe those media.

[transam]

3 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

I thought he was going to solve everything on day 1 ?

Some members here, still believe it.............😂

[Eric Loh]

9 hours ago, Social Media said:

Despite these appeals, Trump resisted the push for fresh U.S. sanctions, citing the financial burden they impose. “When I sanction a country, that costs the U.S. a lot of money — a tremendous amount of money,” he said. “It's not just, let's sign a document. You're talking about billions and billions of dollars

That is downright silly excuse. Trade is pittance with Russia. In fact US has an enormous trade deficit with Russia. Export to Russia at around half a billion and import almost $3 billion and Russia was excluded in his reciprocal tariff list.. WTF.
 

 It cost little for US to impose sanction and is morally and politically the right thing to do. Unless he was referring to the billions lost personally from his Russia oligarch friends. Silly and corrupt man. 

[StandardIssue]

He's ready to put into place tarrifs that are effectively being felt at the retail level in the USA and he's chickening out on sanctions against the ferkin criminal Putin? What a dumb bell.

 

Total TACO TACO TACO TACO 

[Red Forever]

4 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Big men don't whinge all day long. 

Trump does.

[xylophone]

2 hours ago, StandardIssue said:

What a dumb bell.

Don't you mean a "bell end"!

[candide]

4 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Big men don't whinge all day long. 

So Trump is not a big man. We can agree on that! 

[Watawattana]

3 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

I thought he was going to solve everything on day 1 ?

Yeah.  He said that.  But he didn't/couldn't for whatever reason.  We are where we are now, let's look forward to seeing a way to get the death and destruction stopped rather than bitching about a politician saying what he thinks people want to hear.  They all do it, some worse than others, but they all do it.

[Dan O]

4 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Trump was answering a media scrum question - it was a good answer and not the BS rhetoric coming out from people who want to war to continue or escalate.  Real leaders do not deal with things through the media - that is how woke liberal leaders do it - as per all the Democrats making media statements about the anti-ICE riots and Trump using the National Guard.  Trump could offer to give everyone 100,000 dollars and some people would find a reason to hate him for it.  

That's a nice word salad that means nothing. Trump is doing exactly what he always does with putin. He backs down because putin has him in his pocket. 

 

As for ice that was part of the topic buy nice attempt at deflection 

 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

5 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

Well at least we agree on some things but my point is you can't keep blaming MSM when the man himself is either saying it or tweeting it.

 

And I don't have cognitive bias - I have reality bias - which means I look at many sources before coming to an opinion but again I will say, words have meaning and impact, especially if it's coming from the POTUS and Trump has a VERY bad tendency to talk first and think later. Not the kind of quality I look for in the leader of the free world.  

No - it is cognitive - but dont worry, there are millions like that about Trump. That is why the media does things like this story - it stirs up you guys. Remember when Trump was accused of saying the white nationalist nazis were 'good people' - a total lie and a fabrication of the truth - that is the norm for the media - thousands of times. You have been 'click baited' - the truth is not what they do - they are all about click baiting.

 

Same on both sides - Fox and others carry on about absolute BS - but I know that it is BS and that most of it is exaggeration.  But it aint anywhere near as bad as the mistruths about what Trump says, thinks, eats, walks etc etc etc.   Is Trump an smooth talking politician and a diplomat - hell no - he is rough as guts and very abruptly direct - and that is one of the many reasons why so many voted for him. 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

1 hour ago, Dan O said:

That's a nice word salad that means nothing. Trump is doing exactly what he always does with putin. He backs down because putin has him in his pocket. 

As for ice that was part of the topic buy nice attempt at deflection 

How you lot still think it was Russia is hilarious. But the truth is that 2016 was because the alternative was Clinton - pure and simple - all the Russia hoaxes have been debunked.  they were a 'nothing burger' but they sold heaps of media space and got billions of clicks. 

 

Ukraine is not a war as such - it is a police action by Russia against the NATO/CIA lead coup that illegally removed the President of Ukraine and resulted in a Civil War from 2014.  The reality of that situation and truth is completely lost on those that hate Trump. By the way, what did Biden do in 4 years? He and his corrupted Admin sent money and military equipment to a corrupt regime to support them because they had installed in 2014. Propaganda is what you have been lead to believe - total and utter propaganda - which was illegal in USA unless the country was at war - until Obama changed that law.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

4 hours ago, Geir Rasch said:

You don’t read social media and supposedly not MSM, so I just wander: where do you get your wisdom from? Is it from your genius self or from some conspiracy media? I read that older people are more likely to believe those media.

There are many other sources - try looking around.   

PS - sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, and it is far above you. 

[Mike_Hunt]

Is the EU still buying natural gas from Russia? 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

This isn’t about ‘both sides’ of which you make false equivalence.

 

It’s about Trump, who is very clearly owned by Putin.

Only in your mind, and in the minds of others like you. 

[Mike_Hunt]

You go EU.   The people of the EU will fund Putins war against Ukraine until 2028

 

 

[thaibreaker]

1 hour ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Is the EU still buying natural gas from Russia? 

A couple of countries still do in relatively big quantities. Those who oppose (and try to block) any EU sanctions against Russia, and of course oppose and block help and aid to Ukraine. That is Hungary (Orban), and Slovakia (Fico), Putin's (and Trump's...) friends.

 

The shame of European countries. They should have been thrown out of the European Union.

 

So highly Trump has spoken about Orban (and Fico), makes me sick to my stomach.