Dr Aseem Malhotra - White House insiders say the MRNA shot will be pulled from the market

[Magictoad]

On 6/21/2025 at 10:06 AM, Galong said:

OMG, that's some serious science right there. 🤦🤦 What about praying? 🙄😵‍💫

So, it'd be interesting to see how many kids who have measles do everything that you claim prevents infections by dangerous diseases.

The generation most at risk of measles
According to Dr Smith, the MMR generation now in their 20s – and the most likely to go to Glastonbury – are the ones at specific risk. “These are exactly the demographic coming downstream from the Andrew Wakefield scandal,” he says. Dr Smith is referring to the 1998 paper published in The Lancet journal in which the now-disgraced Wakefield implied a link between the MMR (measles, mumps and rubella) vaccine and a “new syndrome” of autism and bowel disease.
The paper was later roundly discredited and Wakefield struck off – but the damage had been done, and thousands of parents in the late 1990s and early 2000s refused to get their babies vaccinated. One in five children in England is estimated to have missed out on their MMR jabs – in some areas, it’s one in four. The “anti-vaxx” movement is still thriving.

[Magictoad]

A warning to the Glastonbury crew re Measles 

The generation most at risk of measles
According to Dr Smith, the MMR generation now in their 20s – and the most likely to go to Glastonbury – are the ones at specific risk. “These are exactly the demographic coming downstream from the Andrew Wakefield scandal,” he says. Dr Smith is referring to the 1998 paper published in The Lancet journal in which the now-disgraced Wakefield implied a link between the MMR (measles, mumps and rubella) vaccine and a “new syndrome” of autism and bowel disease.
The paper was later roundly discredited and Wakefield struck off – but the damage had been done, and thousands of parents in the late 1990s and early 2000s refused to get their babies vaccinated. One in five children in England is estimated to have missed out on their MMR jabs – in some areas, it’s one in four. The “anti-vaxx” movement is still thriving.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I say that vaccinations are an abomination. And although starting out to give some quacks a bit of fame, have morphed into a giant money spinner at the expense of human development and health.

 

I'll go further. It has inhibited true science. Has promoted a falsehood for over 100 years. It has covered up the reasons why people get sick. Has let the people responsible for putting filth into  our oceans and rivers, and polluting the lands, off the hook.

 

Now bud. After reading the above, who are you gonna believe? Me or the CDC, WHO, FDA, BBC, CNN and the MHRA.

While I agree that the Covid vaccines were not managed well and created many negative outcomes, I cannot agree that all vaccines overall are bad thing.  Polio, Smallpox, Rabies and German Measles and many other diseases have been greatly controlled and/or reduced, because of vaccines. No - there is no vaccine that will not damage anyone - there is never going to be a 100% safe vaccine - but that is the price humans pay for removing and reducing diseases that killed billions over history.  

[Magictoad]

Which market? There are more countries than the USA!

[Red Phoenix]

2 hours ago, transam said:

Another load of tosh..............🤣

Tell me, why are us humans now living longer..........?  🤗

You are not human, so this question doesn't concern you... 🤣 🤣 🤣  🤣  🤣

[novanova]

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I love people. I love animals. I love nature.

 

Don't like elites who do any of the above harm. Especially when it's for money. The white-coats putting filth into people's arms for money. When they should know better. Give me a break. And at the top of the tree we have Billy jab-jab Gates. Chased out of India for doing immense harm to little girls. Now he is back there. And strutting around Africa. Is he not wealthy enough? Where are those Epstein files?

 

Eventually the people will realise that the people they vote for are compromised charlatans. Who are aligned with the dollar/pound/euro not the people.

 

 

 

Anti-vaxxers are so ignorant.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Sabin

 

Sabin developed an oral vaccine based on mutant strains of polio virus that seemed to stimulate antibody production but not to cause paralysis. Recipients of his live attenuated oral vaccine included himself, family, and colleagues....

 

Between 1955 and 1961, the oral vaccine was tested on at least 100 million people in the USSR, parts of Eastern Europe, Singapore, Mexico, and the Netherlands....

 

Sabin refused to patent his vaccine, waiving commercial exploitation by pharmaceutical industries, so that the low price would guarantee a more extensive spread of the treatment. From the development of his vaccine Sabin did not gain a penny, and continued to live on his salary as a professor. The Sabin Vaccine Institute was founded in 1993 to continue the work of developing and promoting vaccines

[Red Phoenix]

2 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

CDC, WHO, FDA. Because they know what they are talking about, at least for the moment. As Trumps lying vandals destroy the American medical system, I will pay more attention to the British, French and German health ministers. Your clueless nonsense does not make the top 1000.

CDC, WHO, FDA are corrupt and bought by Big Harma.  It's time that that Augeas stable gets cleaned out, but its a monumental task and its far from certain that RFK jr will prevail in that David against Pharma Goliath fight.  

[Red Phoenix]

51 minutes ago, Magictoad said:

The generation most at risk of measles
According to Dr Smith, the MMR generation now in their 20s – and the most likely to go to Glastonbury – are the ones at specific risk. “These are exactly the demographic coming downstream from the Andrew Wakefield scandal,” he says. Dr Smith is referring to the 1998 paper published in The Lancet journal in which the now-disgraced Wakefield implied a link between the MMR (measles, mumps and rubella) vaccine and a “new syndrome” of autism and bowel disease.
The paper was later roundly discredited and Wakefield struck off – but the damage had been done, and thousands of parents in the late 1990s and early 2000s refused to get their babies vaccinated. One in five children in England is estimated to have missed out on their MMR jabs – in some areas, it’s one in four. The “anti-vaxx” movement is still thriving.

Yes, despite all the mainstream media gaslighting and multi-billion $ Big Harma propaganda, the anti-vax movement is gaining traction.  Once your eyes are opened to the enormous Vaccine lie, there is no going back.  But it's a slow process and goes not in herds but person-by-person. 

[Red Phoenix]

58 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

While I agree that the Covid vaccines were not managed well and created many negative outcomes, I cannot agree that all vaccines overall are bad thing.  Polio, Smallpox, Rabies and German Measles and many other diseases have been greatly controlled and/or reduced, because of vaccines. No - there is no vaccine that will not damage anyone - there is never going to be a 100% safe vaccine - but that is the price humans pay for removing and reducing diseases that killed billions over history.  

That's what they made you believe with their 24/7 propaganda.  

The actual history of vaccination and virology - not the Big Pharma fairy-tale version - provides a totally different story.  

[Purdey]

Great. Another know nothing.

"Aseem Malhotra is a British cardiologist, health campaigner, and author, whose anti-COVID vaccine and anti-statin views have been criticised as misinformation by experts." - Wikipedia

He's a cardiologist and not an expert on viruses. Another example of a bicycle repair guy who says he's an expert on nuclear power.

[Red Phoenix]

3 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Great. Another know nothing.

"Aseem Malhotra is a British cardiologist, health campaigner, and author, whose anti-COVID vaccine and anti-statin views have been criticised as misinformation by experts." - Wikipedia

He's a cardiologist and not an expert on viruses. Another example of a bicycle repair guy who says he's an expert on nuclear power.

The 'experts' have been consistently WRONG and all the time baffled when reality trumps their model-based fantasies. 

[gamb00ler]

1 hour ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Basically, in layman's terms as I understand it, the MRNA vaccines produce a near real pathogen,

NO... you don't understand correctly.  The mRNA molecules only encode instructions to produce a protein.

 

mRNA acts as a cellular messenger. DNA, which is stored in a cell's nucleus, encodes the genetic information for making proteins. mRNA transfers a copy of this genetic information outside of the nucleus, to a cell's cytoplasm, where it is translated into amino acids by ribosomes and then folded into complete proteins.

 

See here:

https://www.genome.gov/about-genomics/fact-sheets/Understanding-COVID-19-mRNA-Vaccines#:~:text=mRNA acts as a cellular,then folded into complete proteins.

 

[emptypockets]

6 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

There are many things I regret in my life, but none too bad to mention - except getting an Pfizer MRNA Covid injection.   It was my second vaccine shot and was mandated in Australia if you wanted to leave your home and visit a Doctor or travel anywhere else - etc etc etc. I took the Astra Zeneca shot as my first option because it was based on a proven and safe vaccine delivery method - a viral vector vaccine. When the wife and I were notified we had an appointment for our second shots, I expected them to be the same - stupid mistake. I did not ask until the 'nurse' has stuck it in and I noticed it was a little different colour than the first injection. I asked what it was and the 'nurse' said Pfizer.  When I asked what why I was not given the Astra Zeneca for my second shot, the fhe fat ugly ignorant stupid feminist beetch said 'they are all the same'.  The wife was very sick for a few weeks - me for several months - and every now and then I still get a bit 'off' which is apparently because the MRNA effect lasts many years and my immune system now over-reacts to any virus I might get.  But if you research that information all you get is the WHO and CDC sanctioned BS that vaccines are safe - MRNA vaccines were unproven and should never have been used IMO. 

Garbage 

 Maybe you live in  Victoria. Wasn't anything like that where I live.

Wife and I and thousands / millions of other people have and still have not had any adverse reactions whatsoever.

[0ffshore360]

4 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Sure.

 

For me the 'immune system' congers up a vision of a thing acting in isolation. Something that can remember. Something that acts after the fact. Also something that is linked to vaccines. And something that has a long, long memory. Maybe a lifetime.

 

I look upon the body as a whole entity. Each little department acting as a part of the whole. Each department sending messages to the others to help the whole body keep in balance.

 

Unless people (members on AN?) can grasp certain principles of nature and indeed life, they will never be able to see the truth. I'll just mention a couple. The natural state of the body is good health. The idea propagated that at any time an unknown, and unseen enemy, is out to get us, is IMO, nonsense. The body does everything it can to ensure that it keeps healthy. It does everything it can to protect itself to enable maturity. Why? So we can breed! Then the emphasis is on both the mother and baby keeping healthy, so the cycle can continue. So, one might ask, what is the value of men in the picture after they have done the deed; so to speak. They are there as the overseers of protection. To enable mum and babe to thrive.

 

The body adapts to stress and stimuli. It has a inbuilt maintenance programme, that includes protection and adaptation. The body protects through adaptation. (Actually that was my field of study 30 years ago.)

 

Right. On to symptoms. A huge subject in itself; so only the surface can be scratched. If one has a cough, or the sneezes (for eg), it is the body reacting to an entity that it does not want. An irritant perhaps. Could be the start of a detox; commonly called the 'flu'. Could be the result of any number of things. But essentially, it is the body trying to remove the irritant. The cough or sneeze is not a disease/illness/sickness. It is the cure. It should not be suppressed by medicine. Not in my opinion anyway.

 

Hope that helps bud.

It may seem unrelated but I am curious enough to ask if you are also a Flat Earth believer ? 

[Stiddle Mump]

2 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

While I agree that the Covid vaccines were not managed well and created many negative outcomes, I cannot agree that all vaccines overall are bad thing.  Polio, Smallpox, Rabies and German Measles and many other diseases have been greatly controlled and/or reduced, because of vaccines. No - there is no vaccine that will not damage anyone - there is never going to be a 100% safe vaccine - but that is the price humans pay for removing and reducing diseases that killed billions over history.  

I see this as a major problem generally. "I agree this, and acknowledge that; BUT  diseases have killed billions. So a vaccine is worth it."

 

Diseases have not killed billions. But I tell you what has. Wars, famine, poor food, dirty water, putrid air, contaminated food and ignorance. The latter not only being with us continuously, but it is planned to keep us that way.

 

Not one vaccine EVER, has been shown to do anything but harm. And any white-coat that says vaccines are a good thing is a quack.

 

''Anyone who tells you vaccines are safe and effective is lying.'' I'll go with that Vernon. But I'll go further. They are completely unnecessary and have caused misery down the ages and throughout the world.

 

The Big Pharma model of public health has to be swept away, if we (humans) are ever to reach our destiny. I might not be around to see the revolution, but one day the billions will take back their world and lives. The would is a bountiful garden. There is more than enough for all to live healthily and happily.

 

Humans must get off their knees, break the bonds of apathy and ignorance, and free themselves.

 

There is only two things that we need for us all to unite.

 

TRUTH & LOVE of NATURE

[jimmybcool]

2 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I see this as a major problem generally. "I agree this, and acknowledge that; BUT  diseases have killed billions. So a vaccine is worth it."

 

Diseases have not killed billions. But I tell you what has. Wars, famine, poor food, dirty water, putrid air, contaminated food and ignorance. The latter not only being with us continuously, but it is planned to keep us that way.

 

Not one vaccine EVER, has been shown to do anything but harm. And any white-coat that says vaccines are a good thing is a quack.

 

''Anyone who tells you vaccines are safe and effective is lying.'' I'll go with that Vernon. But I'll go further. They are completely unnecessary and have caused misery down the ages and throughout the world.

 

The Big Pharma model of public health has to be swept away, if we (humans) are ever to reach our destiny. I might not be around to see the revolution, but one day the billions will take back their world and lives. The would is a bountiful garden. There is more than enough for all to live healthily and happily.

 

Humans must get off their knees, break the bonds of apathy and ignorance, and free themselves.

 

There is only two things that we need for us all to unite.

 

TRUTH & LOVE of NATURE

 

Winner of dumbest internet post of the day.  Lot of contenders but this was run away retarded and you win.  Congratulations.  😃

[Hummin]

2 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I see this as a major problem generally. "I agree this, and acknowledge that; BUT  diseases have killed billions. So a vaccine is worth it."

 

Diseases have not killed billions. But I tell you what has. Wars, famine, poor food, dirty water, putrid air, contaminated food and ignorance. The latter not only being with us continuously, but it is planned to keep us that way.

 

Not one vaccine EVER, has been shown to do anything but harm. And any white-coat that says vaccines are a good thing is a quack.

 

''Anyone who tells you vaccines are safe and effective is lying.'' I'll go with that Vernon. But I'll go further. They are completely unnecessary and have caused misery down the ages and throughout the world.

 

The Big Pharma model of public health has to be swept away, if we (humans) are ever to reach our destiny. I might not be around to see the revolution, but one day the billions will take back their world and lives. The would is a bountiful garden. There is more than enough for all to live healthily and happily.

 

Humans must get off their knees, break the bonds of apathy and ignorance, and free themselves.

 

There is only two things that we need for us all to unite.

 

TRUTH & LOVE of NATURE

Mosquitoes have killed more than anything else in the world

[Stiddle Mump]

16 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

 

Winner of dumbest internet post of the day.  Lot of contenders but this was run away retarded and you win.  Congratulations.  😃

I guess you don't agree with me then Jimmy bud.

[jimmybcool]

15 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I guess you don't agree with me then Jimmy bud.

 

There is nothing of value to agree with.  Guessing you are actually just a troll and this is satire.  I really hope so for your sake.

[gamb00ler]

6 hours ago, jimmybcool said:

 

There is nothing of value to agree with.  Guessing you are actually just a troll and this is satire.  I really hope so for your sake.

Probably not satire.... in an earlier incarnation he did put his urine where his mouth is and discussed it on AN.

[Red Phoenix]

10 hours ago, emptypockets said:

Garbage 

 Maybe you live in  Victoria. Wasn't anything like that where I live.

Wife and I and thousands / millions of other people have and still have not had any adverse reactions whatsoever.

Your message was cut short.  I fixed it, no need to thank me...

> Wife and I and thousands / millions of other people have and still have not had any adverse reactions whatsoever YET.

[gamb00ler]

14 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

For me the 'immune system' congers up a vision of a thing acting in isolation. Something that can remember. Something that acts after the fact. Also something that is linked to vaccines. And something that has a long, long memory. Maybe a lifetime.

LOL - how could it act in isolation?.... you're congering up nonsense again.

 

14 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Right. On to symptoms. A huge subject in itself; so only the surface can be scratched. If one has a cough, or the sneezes (for eg), it is the body reacting to an entity that it does not want. An irritant perhaps. Could be the start of a detox; commonly called the 'flu'. Could be the result of any number of things. But essentially, it is the body trying to remove the irritant. The cough or sneeze is not a disease/illness/sickness. It is the cure. It should not be suppressed by medicine

Except for attributing upper respitory disease to toxins.... this is close to correct.  AI has a much wider perspective than you and says:

 

During a viral attack, the human immune system triggers a range of symptoms as part of its defense mechanism. These symptoms, often referred to as "sickness behavior," are the body's way of optimizing immune cell function and minimizing viral replication. Common symptoms include fever, fatigue, muscle aches, and loss of appetite. Other symptoms like cough, sore throat, and digestive issues can also arise depending on the specific virus and its location in the body. 

 

 

[Stiddle Mump]

1 hour ago, gamb00ler said:

During a viral attack, the human immune system triggers a range of symptoms as part of its defense mechanism. These symptoms, often referred to as "sickness behavior," are the body's way of optimizing immune cell function and minimizing viral replication. Common symptoms include fever, fatigue, muscle aches, and loss of appetite. Other symptoms like cough, sore throat, and digestive issues can also arise depending on the specific virus and its location in the body.

No such thing as a 'viral attack'. 

 

By the way bud, I don't mind if you, or anyone else, call the maintenance/protection/defence system an immune system. I think people are barking up the wrong tree with that. I prefer to think of the body mechanisms as acting in union to keep the body in good order. And if there is toxic insult, as in the case of a vaccine, the body tries to get rid of the stuff. Globulins spring into action. and as much as possible, it protects itself in various ways.

 

 

It is constantly, adapting to the environment it finds. Both internal and external.  Protection by adaptation. But when the trauma is ended the body returns to the good health status quo.

[transam]

16 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

You are not human, so this question doesn't concern you... 🤣 🤣 🤣  🤣  🤣

I see you have no credible answer to another's question......🤭

[TroubleandGrumpy]

16 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

That's what they made you believe with their 24/7 propaganda.  

The actual history of vaccination and virology - not the Big Pharma fairy-tale version - provides a totally different story.  

I agree with most of the views of Kennedy in USA. The Pharma Industry has taken control of the organisations that are supposed to be managing and controlling them - many ex-Govt employees get very well paid jobs in Pharma, and that should be banned. He has sacked all the Biden appointed 'scientists' advising the CDC on vaccines - most of them are what he calls 'industry hacks'. he has stated that he plans to regulate that all Pharma must have all new vaccines to be tested against placebos, and that they are to develop new vaccines without using mRNA technology. 

 

Of course the Pharma industry will be spending their billions to push for protests by their useful idiots, and complaints from the Dems, and many stalling tactics - but Kennedy is going to win in the end. He is not against vaccines, he is against how Pharma has taken control of all things related to medical regulations and he is going to tear that all down. The only reason MRNA vaccines got the go ahead for Covid was because Pharma would not develop them for immediate release unless under the existing regulations it was declared a serious pandemic and there was no alternative medical solution/s and thus under emergency laws they could release a new product and not get sued if it did not work out. Anyone who does not realise that fact needs to reassess their views about MRNA vaccines and the whole Covid BS - it was all driven by Pharma.   

[TroubleandGrumpy]

15 hours ago, emptypockets said:

Garbage 

 Maybe you live in  Victoria. Wasn't anything like that where I live.

Wife and I and thousands / millions of other people have and still have not had any adverse reactions whatsoever.

Only an ignorant person would claim that because something did not hurt them, it is OK for everyone else and there should not be any argument about their safety and efficacy. 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9021367/

https://scitechdaily.com/researchers-discover-mrna-vaccines-leave-lasting-mark-on-the-immune-system/

Those above are two quick links I grabbed - read them and find others - if you really want to know. 

But like many people, you would rather not know, and keep your head in the sand. That is OK, but it means you should really keep your mouth shut or you will choke and look silly. 

 

 

[gamb00ler]

6 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Only an ignorant person would claim that because something did not hurt them, it is OK for everyone else and there should not be any argument about their safety and efficacy. 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9021367/

Did you happen to count the number of times the authors used words and phrases like:

"remains unknown", "may", "reasonable to assume", "further research will clarify", "mRNA can theoretically" ??

[Stiddle Mump]

7 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Pharma must have all new vaccines to be tested against placebos, and that they are to develop new vaccines without using mRNA technology. 

I have written personally to Kennedy jr, through the CHD.

 

I promoted the view that the original experiments that isolated the viruses, that the vaxxes are based on; should be redone:

 

1 - Adhering to Koch's Postulates.

2 - A detailed account of the methodology.

3 - At least one control to run along side.

4 - Independent observers in attendance at all times.

 

I did get a reply, saying that my email contents had been noted. That was back in 2017. But as we know, RFK has taken over recently, so maybe there is change on the horizon.

 

AFAIK; to date, only virologist Dr Stephan Lanka had conducted those trials.

 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

15 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I see this as a major problem generally. "I agree this, and acknowledge that; BUT  diseases have killed billions. So a vaccine is worth it."

 

Diseases have not killed billions. But I tell you what has. Wars, famine, poor food, dirty water, putrid air, contaminated food and ignorance. The latter not only being with us continuously, but it is planned to keep us that way.

Not one vaccine EVER, has been shown to do anything but harm. And any white-coat that says vaccines are a good thing is a quack.

''Anyone who tells you vaccines are safe and effective is lying.'' I'll go with that Vernon. But I'll go further. They are completely unnecessary and have caused misery down the ages and throughout the world.

The Big Pharma model of public health has to be swept away, if we (humans) are ever to reach our destiny. I might not be around to see the revolution, but one day the billions will take back their world and lives. The would is a bountiful garden. There is more than enough for all to live healthily and happily.

Humans must get off their knees, break the bonds of apathy and ignorance, and free themselves.

There is only two things that we need for us all to unite.

TRUTH & LOVE of NATURE

Thanks - that is the best laugh I have had all day 😂

[impulse]

On 6/21/2025 at 11:35 PM, cjinchiangrai said:

On 6/21/2025 at 6:45 PM, dinsdale said:

And the biggest pusher of this line got a pre-emptive pardon from Biden or whoever was it was that was in charge of the autopen.

To protect him from false and frivolous charges leveled by deranged MAGA morons. There are people trying to kill him because of fabricated GQP lies.

 

Do you have any idea how dystopian it is to pre-emptively pardon people who may be committing crimes on behalf of the guy who's pardoning them?  By that same logic, Trump could encourage someone to assassinate all Dem senators, then pardon the assassin.