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Phuket Says Farewell to Pink Buses in Favour of Electric Fleet


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6 hours ago, webfact said:

This move forms part of a broader strategy to embrace greener transportation solutions on the island.

It maybe be greener on the road, but to the environment?

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This is a very expensive transition.

The Batteries have a lifespan of circa three years, if they are properly maintained and will cost as much as a small ICE car to replace them.

 

I wonder what inducements were made to secure the contract to supply these vehicles.

 

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2 hours ago, PopGun said:

The Batteries have a lifespan of circa three years

Says who? 

EV car manufacturers give between 8 and ten years warranty 

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3 hours ago, PETERTHEEATER said:

One to two hour charging? Either the bus battery is low capacity or the chargers are high powered.

 

Given that they only have a low range of 150kmh - I'd go for low capacity.

 

Our 88kwh battery can be charged from about 20% to 80% relatively quickly in about 20-25mins at a fast charger.

The real world range is approx 450kms...

These busses are probably about 3-4x heavier than an EV SUV so a lot of the range is reduced by the extra weight.

However, there is a lot more space for a lot more battery.

 

 

So I'm wondering.. How old the battery tech is they are using... 

In comparison - the London Double Decker Electric bus with a 532kWh battery can travel 644km.

The busses themselves cost about £400,000 (17.7 Million Baht)... 

 

So, the cost of 5 million baht possibly reflects simpler construction and older tech perhaps.

 

 

Nevertherless : 2 hrs charing, a rotation of busses...   this is only a good thing for any town from the perspective of noise and air-pollution.  Though, as alluded to by another poster, the over all 'bigger picture' environmental friendliness of EV's is something I have long questioned... 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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54 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Given that they only have a low range of 150kmh - I'd go for low capacity.

 

Our 88kwh battery can be charged from about 20% to 80% relatively quickly in about 20-25mins at a fast charger.

The real world range is approx 450kms...

These busses are probably about 3-4x heavier than an EV SUV so a lot of the range is reduced by the extra weight.

However, there is a lot more space for a lot more battery.

 

 

So I'm wondering.. How old the battery tech is they are using... 

In comparison - the London Double Decker Electric bus with a 532kWh battery can travel 644km.

The busses themselves cost about £400,000 (17.7 Million Baht)... 

 

So, the cost of 5 million baht possibly reflects simpler construction and older tech perhaps.

 

 

Nevertherless : 2 hrs charing, a rotation of busses...   this is only a good thing for any town from the perspective of noise and air-pollution.  Though, as alluded to by another poster, the over all 'bigger picture' environmental friendliness of EV's is something I have long questioned... 

 

 


I don't think it's old tech. They use Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO₄) batteries which is good for safety and durability. I am guessing they have a moderate capacity as that was deemed to be the sweet spot between price, performance, range, weight, and charging times as they are only pootling around the island, starting and stopping, and not travelling long distances so don't need a larger capacity.

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The old pink buses were a great, cheap, tourist ride, but slow, awkward and impractical as city transport. It's well past time a more modern alternative was introduced to move people around and hopefully, get some private vehicles off the overcrowded roads. 

Of course the "experts" and deniers are already coming out of the woodwork with the usual negativity and silly claims about battery life and charging times,  as if literally thousands of cities around the planet weren't already using electic buses. Someone even expressed surprise that one of these small 23 seater buses were cheaper than a new double decker London bus!

It seems after decades of talk only,  something positive is finally happening about Phuket transport.

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18 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

I don't think it's old tech. They use Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO₄) batteries which is good for safety and durability. I am guessing they have a moderate capacity as that was deemed to be the sweet spot between price, performance, range, weight, and charging times as they are only pootling around the island, starting and stopping, and not travelling long distances so don't need a larger capacity.

 

Valid points...    is 150 kmh sufficient ?? - as you highlighted - perhaps thats sufficient for the 6-8 circuits (or however many per day) they make.

 

 

Posted
5 hours ago, ignore it said:

The LGBTQ community is demanding these the buggies be painted rainbow.

 

Nah.

 

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Posted
7 hours ago, hotchilli said:

It maybe be greener on the road, but to the environment?

Think about all the people who die in mines harvesting materials to make a battery.

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2 hours ago, still kicking said:

Think about all the people who die in mines harvesting materials to make a battery.

Think of all the people killed in mines harvesting materials to make the lead-acid battery that is in every ICE vehicle. Think of all the people who died in mines harvesting materials for your ECU and all the processors and computers in every ICE car: silicone, copper, gold and a load of rare earth materials. And how many people have been killed in the oil and gas industries? And how many killed from the pollution caused by oil and gas?

But yeah, the EVs....

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