How do you control or get rid of dog packs.

[Donald Bright]

I live in a village where everyone knows everyone, almost.   One of my next door neighbour's is an elderly widow who is disliked by all who know her especially those that live in close proximity.   It is believed that she has cancer and many say she can't die quick enough but shows no signs of doing so.

She has got eight adult dogs and six pups from a recent litter.   She refuses to get the females spade, also will not get them injected.

The entrance to my place is through the property of one of my wife's aunt's, which borders this old woman's block.   Quite often the dogs rush out growling ready to attack by going through the wreck of a fence.   I have kept them at bay so far by using an iron tubular steel pipe but i can see these dogs attacking one of the young kids that come in and out and it could be fatal.   I have thought of rat poisoned  meat and a few other nasty things but i don't fancy spending the rest of my life in a Thai jail if caught.   The local Tabyi Bahn (not sure how to spell this one) does not seem to care partly because he lives half a mile away from the problem. The only positive thing about the situation is that there is a hospital in the village if required.  

Unfortunately there is no police station here to report to.   It looks like we are going to have to wait on this old biddy dying , but i can see some one getting mauled by the pack as that is what they are now.    Any reasonable suggestions would be appreciated. 

[msbkk]

Try to befriend them in bringing some food with you and watch what happens. Be calm. At least worth a try.

[Maybole]

Water pstol filled with dilute ammonia.

[Patong2021]

Nothing stops you or anyone else from spaying or neutering the animals. The animals require 48 hours of supervision and 2 weeks of healing. Once returned to the pack, the animals control pack population. They are also quieter.

[Hummin]

Just walk slowly towards them, show them yiu are the boss. Give them some dog snack once and awhile. 

 

Problem solved 

 

It was 3 of them, and at once I walked towards them they split.

 

 

[NorthernRyland]

Yeah been there done that. Don't sacrifice your sanity and peace dealing with uncivilized villagers. Even going through the ordeal of having to poison dogs and worrying about consequences is not worth it.

 

Realistically your options are:

 

1) pay the woman to move even if that means buying her a house

2) pay the women to relocate all her dogs no matter the cost

3) move yourself (not near a village!)

4) rent another place and leave until she dies.

5) just deal with it

[spidermike007]

I have found a insect spray to be very effective with dogs,  reptiles, geckos and vermin. Buy six cans of insect spray and use it liberally. Dogs can't stand it and they will remember you're the guy with the can! 

[Peterphuket]

On 7/5/2025 at 9:25 PM, Donald Bright said:

I live in a village where everyone knows everyone, almost.   One of my next door neighbour's is an elderly widow who is disliked by all who know her especially those that live in close proximity.   It is believed that she has cancer and many say she can't die quick enough but shows no signs of doing so.

She has got eight adult dogs and six pups from a recent litter.   She refuses to get the females spade, also will not get them injected.

The entrance to my place is through the property of one of my wife's aunt's, which borders this old woman's block.   Quite often the dogs rush out growling ready to attack by going through the wreck of a fence.   I have kept them at bay so far by using an iron tubular steel pipe but i can see these dogs attacking one of the young kids that come in and out and it could be fatal.   I have thought of rat poisoned  meat and a few other nasty things but i don't fancy spending the rest of my life in a Thai jail if caught.   The local Tabyi Bahn (not sure how to spell this one) does not seem to care partly because he lives half a mile away from the problem. The only positive thing about the situation is that there is a hospital in the village if required.  

Unfortunately there is no police station here to report to.   It looks like we are going to have to wait on this old biddy dying , but i can see some one getting mauled by the pack as that is what they are now.    Any reasonable suggestions would be appreciated. 

I gave that up some time ago and stopped cycling.
I realised it would go wrong sooner or later, and therefore stopped.

[Peterphuket]

9 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I have found a insect spray to be very effective with dogs,  reptiles, geckos and vermin. Buy six cans of insect spray and use it liberally. Dogs can't stand it and they will remember you're the guy with the can! 

Regarding the spray, I'm still curious which one that is, my experience is that geckos (tjingtjoks) are not impressed by this.

[ross163103]

Carry a meter long stick, most Thai dogs know about these and what humans will do with them. Might not have to hit them but just the threat of having one is usually enough deterrent.

[black tabby12345]

 

 

 

To counter the pack of them with ease, carry a few of this stuff with your lighter.

 

 

 

^{Pretty effective to stun plural  vicious dogs.}

A kind of firecrackers called Kai Mon Kon(Dragon egg).

^{One piece comes with one dozen bangs.}

^{I have actually used it against attacking dogs before teargas spray employment.}

 

^{In Thailand, fireworks sale takes place only on limited occasions( Koi Khratong, New Year, Chinese New Year).}

^{But you nay find it at the religious donation goods store near you.}

^{Look for the shop with orange colored buckets placed at the front.}

 

^{Show the shop keeper this to ask if they stock what you want:}

ประทัดไข่มังกร

 

[KhunLA]

A nice bowl of antifreeze should work fine 😎

 

You could patch the holes in fence with chicken wire.   Or get one of the fancy Songkran water 'rifles' and fill it with chili infused water.  Couple shots of that, and they'll think differently next time they see you.

[black tabby12345]

On 7/5/2025 at 9:58 PM, Maybole said:

Water pstol filled with dilute ammonia.

 

Or vinegar.

Smell of that, one thing they hate worst.

I carry the spray with vinegar, pepper, and chili mixed and filtered.

Have used it over 170 times by now.

Always works 100%.

[IvorBiggun2]

27 minutes ago, ross163103 said:

Carry a meter long stick, most Thai dogs know about these and what humans will do with them. Might not have to hit them but just the threat of having one is usually enough deterrent.

Best answer so far.

[spidermike007]

54 minutes ago, Peterphuket said:

Regarding the spray, I'm still curious which one that is, my experience is that geckos (tjingtjoks) are not impressed by this.

I typically use Raid crawling insect spray, and I've gotten rid of many a gecko with this. It seems to work as a type of tranquilizer, it kind of lulls them into a very dull state, where you can let you just grab them and get rid of them. But you have to get a fair amount of it in their face. 

[DezLez]

39 minutes ago, ross163103 said:

Carry a meter long stick, most Thai dogs know about these and what humans will do with them. Might not have to hit them but just the threat of having one is usually enough deterrent.

Does anyone know if Lazada do some sort of folding stick I could carry in my pocket/belt.

Have looked but cannot find anything that looks sturdy enough!

[IvorBiggun2]

9 minutes ago, DezLez said:

Does anyone know if Lazada do some sort of folding stick I could carry in my pocket/belt.

Have looked but cannot find anything that looks sturdy enough!

 

To deter the dogs the stick needs to be showing. Folding walking sticks sold on Lazada. Cheap as chips.

 

Ultrasonic dog scarers sold on Lazada also

[IvorBiggun2]

6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I typically use Raid crawling insect spray, and I've gotten rid of many a gecko with this.

 

Rat glue traps are best for gecko's

[fredwiggy]

On 7/5/2025 at 10:17 PM, proton said:

Man up and poison the lot

That would bring him down to an unstable killer, which is not only against the law but a despicable practice. Granted this is Thailand and not many care but do that in the US once and you're fined, get a record and likely to suffer some payback later. People that deliberately kill domestic animals have mental issues that could easily lead to hurting humans.From the link...............The Humane Society of the United States says on its website that a number of studies "in psychology, sociology, and criminology during the last 25 years have demonstrated that violent offenders frequently have childhood and adolescent histories of serious and repeated animal cruelty.  "The FBI has recognized the connection since the 1970s, when its analysis of the lives of serial killers suggested that most had killed or tortured animals as children," according to the society. "Other research has shown consistent patterns of animal cruelty among perpetrators of more common forms of violence, including child abuse, spouse abuse, and elder abuse. In fact, the American Psychiatric Association considers animal cruelty one of the diagnostic criteria of conduct disorder.".......................... Easy to see how some people think and who should be avoided. Men find a better solution...............https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/deliberate-pet-poisonings-could-point-to-psychological-problems-1.735874

[proton]

The only good dog is a dead one

[IvorBiggun2]

Just now, proton said:

The only good dog is a dead one

 

I wouldn't say that but street dogs should be rounded up and terminated.

[KhunLA]

3 minutes ago, proton said:

The only good dog is a dead one

There are no bad dogs just bad owners.

[fredwiggy]

I see now why I sometimes get thumbs down when I'm talking about protecting animals and treating women well. Sometimes it goes hand in hand. People who will hurt animals easily will turn to people, as the respect for life itself isn't there. Funny how some don't realize just how crazy they are.

[fredwiggy]

Just now, KhunLA said:

There are no bad dogs just bad owners.

There are bad dogs which become that way from bad, disturbed, abusive or neglective owners. Dogs that attack usually are taught to be that way. Some think having a vicious animals makes them look powerful. It actually shows just how off they are. Yes, stray dogs need to be rounded up, spayed or neutered and found homes for if possible, just like civilized societies do. It's the governments job to protect it's citizens and punish those who raise dogs that attack.

[IvorBiggun2]

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

It's the governments job to protect it's citizens and punish those who raise dogs that attack.

 

And how does the government know who owns a street dog? They need to micro chip dogs by law. 

[fredwiggy]

2 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

 

And how does the government know who owns a street dog? They need to micro chip dogs by law. 

If you're dogs running loose, which it shouldn't be, it's rounded up and put into a shelter. If they want their dog back, they get them, plus pay a fine for a loose animal. There are clinics here that spay and neuter that should be funded by the government so they can expand their business countrywide. 

[KhunLA]

y'all do realize we're in a third world country and dogs are very low priority.

 

 As are the lowly folks who released the dogs into the streets.   A bit of 'it's your problem, you deal with it".

[fredwiggy]

2 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

y'all do realize we're in a third world country and dogs are very low priority.

 

 As are the lowly folks who released the dogs into the streets.   A bit of 'it's your problem, you deal with it".

Thailand has actually never been third world, which means nations not aligned with the US or Soviet Union. It's a developing country that decades behind in some things, with most of it's advancement being from western ideals. 

[KhunLA]

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Thailand has actually never been third world, which means nations not aligned with the US or Soviet Union. It's a developing country that decades behind in some things, with most of it's advancement being from western ideals. 

Third world as far as I'm concerned.

 

There's people here that don't have chanotes for the land their houses are on or land they farm. 

 

People here that don't have electric or running water provided by the government / utility companies.

 

That's 3rd world.

[fredwiggy]

3 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Third world as far as I'm concerned.

 

There's people here that don't have chanotes for the land their houses are on or land they farm. 

 

People here that don't have electric or running water provided by the government / utility companies.

 

That's 3rd world.

It's actually a misnomer. Developing matches it, seeing it's still far behind in some ways, but up to date in others. The officials are happy with it being suppressed, as people who are allowed to complain get changes.

 

Just as one example, I'm not sure how others in villages do, but here my power goes off almost daily for a few seconds, and up to 4 hours or more at least twice a month. Back in Texas it went off maybe three times a year, and never daily for any time. That's a problem they don't understand how to fix, or won't put the money towards a new grid.