14 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

People like you were saying this would never come to court. Now shifting goal posts. When they get sent down, it still won't be enough for you. 

 

I didn't say it would never come to court. I said they would try to bury it, and they did try to do just that. Just as they buried the actions of the rape gangs out of fear of being called racist and just like they never searched the Manchester bombers backpack out of fear of being called racist. 

 

I had full faith in the actions of Farage and Co. forcing the authorities to take action by threatening their own private prosecution.

 

They embarrassed them into taking action. Kudos to Mr Farage. 

 

The guy in blue in particular deserves a multiple year prison sentence. This was much more than a hurty tweet. Time to drop the 2 tier nonsense. 

9 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

Last year there were 230 plus attacks on police offers in the UK. 96% were carried out by white men, usually drunk and disorderly. 

 

230? Got a link for that?

 

https://www.polfed.org/surrey/news/2025/over-55-000-assaults-against-uk-police-officers-in-past-year/

 

 

 

7 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

I'm beginning to think this poster is infact someone else who is not allowed on this thread but using a diff name prob beating the ban. His MO sounds remarkable to someone we all know.

 

Why? Because they hold a differing opinion to yours? Or do you get a bit queasy when confronted with your own prejudices?

23 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

"Both defendants, from Rochdale, deny the charges"

 

Going to be interesting how the defense will explain the CCTV coverage of them breaking the policewoman s nose?

Defence will claim, she headbutted his fist.

2 hours ago, nick supreme said:

This trial is white supremacy. 

 

Yea, we need ms blm, to chime in.

 

🤣🤣

1 hour ago, proton said:

 

Supporting them are you? nobody insisted it would never happen but many questioned why it took so long

 

Because there was a fair bit of cctv and smartphone video already circulating, any prosecution had to be thorough and obtain and share these along with the bodycam footage.

 

The same initial rush to call out police brutality and suggest racism, and the subsequent revelations of other video footage that countered this popular argument needed to be avoided.

 

Hopefully, there will be a successful prosecution with meaningful punishment.

 

Rushing to judgment is never a good look. For example, on this thread, we have had their defence lawyer incorrectly attributed with defending someone he didn't, just because of what? His race? Her religion?

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

I didn't say it would never come to court. I said they would try to bury it, and they did try to do just that. Just as they buried the actions of the rape gangs out of fear of being called racist and just like they never searched the Manchester bombers backpack out of fear of being called racist. 

 

You really do live in a fantasy world. You and others constantly bringing this up, when others (like me) explained the due process is more complex as there are claims against the police and video of a police officer stamping on one of their heads. Once those claims were investigated and dismissed the criminal prosecution could proceed. It is how the law works, just that none of you wanted to hear that as you would rather believe your conspiracy theories that it is being buried.

 

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I had full faith in the actions of Farage and Co. forcing the authorities to take action by threatening their own private prosecution.

 

They embarrassed them into taking action. Kudos to Mr Farage. 

You can't seriously believe this. You are Farage's wet dream, a blind follower who swallows everything unquestioningly. As explained above - and countless times in other threads - there is something called "due process" which needs to be followed and was being followed. Farage has got nothing to do with this other than jumping on a bandwagon to score points, much like Yaxley-Lennon and the grooming gangs.

Even one of your kind was on here the day before the trial started saying no arrests had been made in this case because they are Muslim. It is hilarious.

 

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The guy in blue in particular deserves a multiple year prison sentence. 

Agree.

 

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Time to drop the 2 tier nonsense. 

God I really hope you mean it, thank you. 

12 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

 

Last year there were 230 plus attacks on police offers in the UK. 96% were carried out by white men, usually drunk and disorderly. 

 

So you are saying these 4% of non white attackers should get two tier justice? I am confused because aren't you arguing against two tier justice - which i believe is racists new nonsensical argument of the week. 

 

These men, whether you like it or not, were born in the UK. They are british citizens. So take your racism and shove it. It's the UK problem and they will face the consequences just like the 96% of white attackers. 

"These men, whether you like it or not, were born in the UK. They are british citizens"

 

Just because you get born in a stable, doesn't make you a horse!

12 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

These men, whether you like it or not, were born in the UK. They are british citizens. So take your racism and shove it.

 

They are Pakistani muslims born in the UK, Islam is not a race.

12 minutes ago, proton said:

 

They are Pakistani muslims born in the UK, Islam is not a race.

They are British. 

"Islam is not a race" - the racists' favourite "get out of jail free" card.

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

when others (like me) explained the due process is more complex as there are claims against the police and video of a police officer stamping on one of their heads

 

What a load of BS

 

The counter claims against the Police had nothing to do with it.

 

They assaulted Abdullah in Starbucks. They then assaulted the Police who tried to arrest them.

 

That is the crux of why they are currently on trial.

 

Any investigations into Police actions is a totally separate from the assaults carried out by the knuckledraggers.

 

The reason why beady eyes all over this case, along with the case of Mr Labour ( cut their throats ) Councillor, is the foot dragging in getting it to Court.

 

Labour Councillor Ricky ( Cut their throats ) Jones is due to appear in Court next month. I have no doubt that will be postponed due to Mental Health Issues or similar.

 

Fast tracking for some, feet dragging for others.

 

Perhaps those Police Officers should have shut their mouths, turned a blind eye to the knuckledraggers, for the sake of Diversity and local cohesion.

 

Don't make me laugh.

 

 

 

 

22 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

They are British. 

 

They might ( or may not ) hold British Passports.

 

Being born in a stable, does not make you a horse.

 

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Islam is not a race" - the racists' favourite "get out of jail free" card.

 

Islam is not a race, never has been and never will be. Therefore the racist trope goes right out the window.

 

Just like having a fear of radical Muslims, does not make someone Islamophobic.

20 hours ago, Magictoad said:

BUT you never know in current Two Tier Britain where people get imprisoned for writing hurty words and walk free for beating a man to the ground.

 

Clown whirled.

 

Same happens in Canada now.

 

Writing hurty words will get you in a whirled of sh-te.

 

Never mind tackling a man breaking into your house.

 

You'd be charged with assault.

47 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

They might ( or may not ) hold British Passports.

 

Being born in a stable, does not make you a horse.

 

 

Islam is not a race, never has been and never will be. Therefore the racist trope goes right out the window.

 

Just like having a fear of radical Muslims, does not make someone Islamophobic.

Ok ok, racism has nothing to do with it. 

If they were British born second or third generation white Christian immigrants from America you'd all be in the same tizz calling for them to be deported, calling them American (can't possibly be British - being born in a stable blah blah), questioning their religion (when it had nothing to do with the attack). Of course, how silly of me.

Carry on.

3 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Ok ok, racism has nothing to do with it. 

 

Islam is not a race - Racism does not come into the equation.

 

4 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

If they were British born second or third generation white Christian immigrants from America

 

If my grannie had balls, she would have been me grandad.

 

If doesn't come into the equation either.

 

Take your strawmen,roll them up in a Pally flag and smoke them.

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

They are British. 

"Islam is not a race" - the racists' favourite "get out of jail free" card.

 

Get out of nothing, all races are muslims so how can a mention of it be 'racist' it's a religion

Why has it took so long to bring this trial to Court ?? . How long does it take to review Camera footage ? why now the trial is underway has there been a ban on reporting the trial in the press ?. I can tell you 100% as I live in the UK if these were white they would have been in Court the next day and taken into custody till a trial date. There would not have been an investigation into police conduct. Like it or not the Police and system will do anything to prevent Muslims demonstrating if there convicted. So its likely they will get a slap the Wrist nothing more.  If we demand a retrial we will be threatened with incitment. A crime punished by jail time so we will be silenced.

On 7/7/2025 at 8:49 AM, HK MacPhooey said:

Wrong again - the trial many insisted should not have taken almost one year to come to trial   

But say something hurtful on the internet and you will be before a judge within hours.

23 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Why has it took so long to bring this trial to Court ?? . How long does it take to review Camera footage ? why now the trial is underway has there been a ban on reporting the trial in the press ?. I can tell you 100% as I live in the UK if these were white they would have been in Court the next day and taken into custody till a trial date. There would not have been an investigation into police conduct. Like it or not the Police and system will do anything to prevent Muslims demonstrating if there convicted. So its likely they will get a slap the Wrist nothing more.  If we demand a retrial we will be threatened with incitment. A crime punished by jail time so we will be silenced.

Now you're getting indignant over things that you have imagined might happen (but haven't happened), and then what might happen to "you" (whoever your "we" is)  after that thing that might have happened (but hasn't happened), possibly happened. Way to go!

The pearl clutching is strong with this one.

14 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Now you're getting indignant over things that you have imagined might happen (but haven't happened), and then what might happen to "you" (whoever your "we" is)  after that thing that might have happened (but hasn't happened), possibly happened. Way to go!

The pearl clutching is strong with this one.

Do you live in England Joesph ? i do. Explain to me and the other members why its took so long to bring this trial to Court ? and don't try and give us the old it takes time and a process has to be investigated. " WE" as in all the UK have a two tier police system fact. Are the goverment under Starmer frightened of losing the Muslim vote yes, why are all the rape gangs Muslim Particularly Pakistani there not Indians or Sikh. Are they protected yes. Is the truth hidden from us to prevent Racial tensions in towns and cities between white and Muslim yes.

42 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Do you live in England Joesph ? i do. Explain to me and the other members why its took so long to bring this trial to Court ? and don't try and give us the old it takes time and a process has to be investigated. " WE" as in all the UK have a two tier police system fact. Are the goverment under Starmer frightened of losing the Muslim vote yes, why are all the rape gangs Muslim Particularly Pakistani there not Indians or Sikh. Are they protected yes. Is the truth hidden from us to prevent Racial tensions in towns and cities between white and Muslim yes.

I live in Thailand. I have lots of family in the UK.  You clearly don't know how the justice system works so you fill in the blanks with your own imagined scenarios.

1. It is a complex case with multiple parties involved, needing thorough investigations by Greater Manchester Police (GMP), the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC), and the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS). Yes, partly due to the complaints against the police violence, which was rightfully eventually dismissed.

2. Because there were accusations of police brutality that needed to be investigated, and there are racial/political undertones the CPS needed to go through all the evidence to make sure it was completely watertight, legally sound, defensible in court and there was no wriggle room for them to get out of it - surely that's a good thing? Or would you rather they rushed it through, there are holes their lawyers exploit and they get out of it via a loophole or a mistake in evidence collection just to satisfy the braying mob by rushing things?

3. They were charged in December, less than five months after their arrest. That is not unusual for a complex case with multiple agencies and complaints and a vast array of evidence to be examined. It is not a simple open and shut case no matter what you think.

4. They plead not guilty which meant it needs a criminal trial and has to be scheduled in to the criminal justice system which always has a significant backlog of cases. And this is expected to be a 3-4 week trial, no small matter.

All of the above is verifiable, usual, and the way the course of justice goes, especially in a sensitive case such as this. If the evidence is not absolutely nailed down before charges are brought and they get off on a technicality what do you think would happen? Riots on the streets probably, so let them do their jobs.

If they get let off to improve community relations or whatever nonsense term you use then you will have a rightful complaint and I would join you. But please stop imagining scenarios and the imaged reactions to them as it is all in your head.

3 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

"These men, whether you like it or not, were born in the UK. They are british citizens"

 

Just because you get born in a stable, doesn't make you a horse!

 

 

I'll play along. 

 

Okay so whats your definition of a British citizen then ?

The usual racist lines being trotted around - 'stable' 'islam is not a race' .... completely radicalised these lot. 

1 minute ago, DonniePeverley said:

The usual racist lines being trotted around - 'stable' 'islam is not a race' .... completely radicalised these lot. 

Are you muslim? What justification do you have for siding with them over native british

38 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

 

I'll play along. 

 

Okay so whats your definition of a British citizen then ?

My definition would be the same as the definition on the The official GOV.UK website.

On 7/7/2025 at 9:17 AM, JonnyF said:

Even so, look how long it has taken to come to trial compared to the "Nasty tweeters" who were arrested, charged and jailed within a week of their "crime".

 

 

Yep, spot on there... if you post hurty words for fragile ears, then a bunch of cops acting like the thought police will be round in minutes.

However, violent assault cases and grooming gang crimes are actively attempted to be buried, as they are so scared of the truth and that those committing these crimes don't reflect the far-left narrative. Hope they get at least ten years... should be hard labour and eating 18th century gruel and water 2 times a day. The UK needs a CECOT-style prison on some remote forsaken Scottish island to toss these types into.

48 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

Yep, spot on there... if you post hurty words for fragile ears, then a bunch of cops acting like the thought police will be round in minutes.

However, violent assault cases and grooming gang crimes are actively attempted to be buried, as they are so scared of the truth and that those committing these crimes don't reflect the far-left narrative. Hope they get at least ten years... should be hard labour and eating 18th century gruel and water 2 times a day. The UK needs a CECOT-style prison on some remote forsaken Scottish island to toss these types into.

Nonsense - ignorant nonsense at that.

31 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Nonsense - ignorant nonsense at that.

 

I think that comment, highlights your ignorance.

31 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

I think that comment, highlights your ignorance.

Okey Dokey.

My other post explaining the process and why your beliefs are misguided probably had too many words or facts for you to read. Sorry about that.

Back to your imaginary scenarios that live in your head and not in the criminal justice system.

7 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

My other post explaining the process and why your beliefs are misguided probably had too many words or facts for you to read. Sorry about that.

 

My beliefs ? What would those beliefs be, that you think are misguided ?
 

Not only are adept at highlighting your ignorance, you are also adept at showing your mentalism.

 

A tragic combination.