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Thai Bread

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37 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Too much sugar?

no, real bread like they make in Europe.

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  • Jerzy Swirski
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    I cannot stand the over sweet bread that is sold in Thailand. Get yourself a bread maker and have your bread exactly as you like it. Once you have worked out the settings that are good for y

  • TallGuyJohninBKK
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    Also, the chain of farang-founded Holey bakeries in Bangkok have a range of gourmet sourdough breads, including a non-sweet wholewheat version that's quite good.   They sell their wholewheat

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    if only thailand had been colonised by france, the coffee... the bakeries... the city planning...

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16 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

no, real bread like they make in Europe.

 

 

Unlikely.....but things can change.

12 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Or find a proper bakery, I get my bread from a French baker who makes bread better than in France.

I would like to patronise such a baker! Contact details, please!

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12 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Or any Asian country's strong point. Japan and China make decent attempts, but there is only one bread superpower, and that is Germany.

 

 

Vietnam and Cambodian bakers would disagree.

24 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Vietnam and Cambodian bakers would disagree.

 

One trick ponies using inferior ingredients.

12 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Or find a proper bakery, I get my bread from a French baker who makes bread better than in France.

 

24 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I would like to patronise such a baker! Contact details, please!

Please don’t, otherwise it will be quickly depleted as the shop isn’t hurting for customers.

28 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I would like to patronise such a baker! Contact details, please!

 

DM me, I'll send it to you.

13 hours ago, Keeps said:

I bought Royal brand (green colour bag) whole-wheat bread in lotus the other day. 5 very thick slices. Think it was 40 baht. It's ok for toast and not too sweet. They also had a 12 seed variety which I'll try next time.

The 12 seed is what I eat every week, and it's the tastiest. Good toasted with Dalfours jelly. The whole grain is also good. 

Lao bakers would also disagree, though I have never found sourdough ib those three countries. Germany and Denmark rule!

 

The gold standard is that good bread should be eaten the same day it was baked. If that's not possible, freeze the rest (sliced is a lot less hassle).

 

That's exactly none of the breads sold in plastic bags in Thai supers, even the higher priced ones. A tiny bit of sugar is necessary to start the yeast but no more.

 

Sugar is poison. So are preservatives. Make your own if you're far from a bakery. Have to have a proper oven!

 

I discussed EMS from Bartels. They'd never done it but talked me out of it. I may insist just to see the results.

 

I was a devotee of Bei Otto rye sourdough but, after they moved, I never got there and now it's out of business. I'm hoping to try the German bakery, Nevermind, off Sukh 48,

 

I'm going to recap here:

Bartels

Conkey's

Larder

Maison Jean-Philippe

 

I don't do Zuck but a lot of these places do FB. Hungry yet?

I eat bread daily for breakfast, the Royal 12 seed or whole grain ones specifically. They're okay and you can buy them at 7-11 and the major store chains. There is a bakery in Bangkok called Landhaus I'll post a link for. I haven't yet tried them but they have good reviews and can deliver all over Thailand.

 

I'll be making my own bread once I move back home, as I've seen what my daughter makes there now, and it's healthy and tastes good. 

 

Many here say that Europe has better bread than the US and it might be true if you're talking about mass produced grocery store bread. I've had bread from Whole Foods Market and other indie stores in Texas and they were very good. ............landhaus bakery..........https://landhaus-bakery-bangkok.com/?srsltid=AfmBOor1JaT4oRkEJTrhvx3TKc-yqdc8MrWPGtrNdajdRXke5HuFbkcQ

45 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Unlikely.....but things can change.

Well I eat it daily so hardly "unlikely"

41 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Well I eat it daily so hardly "unlikely"

 

 

It will be too sweet if it is baked by a Thai.

58 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I eat bread daily for breakfast, the Royal 12 seed or whole grain ones specifically. They're okay and you can buy them at 7-11 and the major store chains. There is a bakery in Bangkok called Landhaus I'll post a link for. I haven't yet tried them but they have good reviews and can deliver all over Thailand.

 

I'll be making my own bread once I move back home, as I've seen what my daughter makes there now, and it's healthy and tastes good. 

 

Many here say that Europe has better bread than the US and it might be true if you're talking about mass produced grocery store bread. I've had bread from Whole Foods Market and other indie stores in Texas and they were very good. ............landhaus bakery..........https://landhaus-bakery-bangkok.com/?srsltid=AfmBOor1JaT4oRkEJTrhvx3TKc-yqdc8MrWPGtrNdajdRXke5HuFbkcQ

EU vs USA bread ... oh please.  There's excellent bread everywhere.  Though the mass produced bread in EU is probably healthier, since some of the ingredients used in USA are banned in EU.  Sadly, it's not just bread that uses ingredients banned in EU and other countries.  Topic for another thread.

 

I was not the in home, whole foods cook guy that I am now, but I did make my own bread, with a nice bread machine, when in USA.   Not that there wasn't any good bread to be found, and excellent, but, just silly priced, and I didn't know what was in it.   

 

Same reason I make my own here in TH, I know what's in it, and an 830gr loaf cost me all of 25 or 35 baht, depending if whole wheat or rye, or just white bread.

5 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

It will be too sweet if it is baked by a Thai.

Jezus man give up.

2 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Jezus man give up.

 

 

I gave up Thai bread years ago

15 hours ago, saintdomingo said:

Both the mass produced brands in 7 are OK for sandwiches


No they are not.

If you are getting your bread from 7, it is time to reassess your dietary habits. 

14 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Or find a proper bakery, I get my bread from a French baker who makes bread better than in France.


Sure you do. Keep telling yourself that.

23 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

It will be too sweet if it is baked by a Thai.

My 👎 as a silly statement.  Who do you think is baking all the good bread here, foreigners only.  If you took a peek in the kitchen, I think you'd find Thais back there :coffee1:

 

You gave up Thai bread ... so you don't eat any bread here in TH :cheesy:

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36 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

There's excellent bread everywhere.

 

Not really.

34 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

 

You gave up Thai bread ... so you don't eat any bread here in TH :cheesy:


Not sure why you find this hard to believe. There was a point where I gave up most carbs -- bread, rice, pasta, sugar -- and I certainly am not unique in that respect.

I eat bread maybe once a week now. 

14 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Or any Asian country's strong point. Japan and China make decent attempts, but there is only one bread superpower, and that is Germany.

 

Laos has a legacy of decent bread due to the French colonisation. However, it's been a long time since I had those delightful, freshly baked, slightly crusty home-made croissants on Vientiane.

Yes. 99% of the whole wheat bread in Thailand is at least 50% refined white flour, it's far easier to bake using white flour as a base, so you really have to go to a high-end bakery to get whole grain bread here. I often times inquire with the baker to see what percentage of whole grain flour they use in various breads. I have found a couple of places that have whole grain rye, which is at least 90% whole grain, and I've also found a few places that have real whole wheat bread or mixed grain bread that's primarily whole and very high quality, but it tends to be pricey. Worth it though. White flour is highly toxic, and has zero nutritional value. Same with white rice. 

4 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

I know now you're going to call me nuts but ... long, long time ago (that means before COVID) I used to take Air Asia to Penang in the morning, go to Yin's Sourdough bakery for breakfast, had her pack up my freshly baked sourdough bread, went to whatever that mall is at Komtar, picked up the bag, and returned to airport for evening flight back to Bangkok.

 

It was Yin who told me of her colleague, schoolmate at San Francisco who opened Holey bakery at Sukhumvit that I should try out. I did, but compared to Yin, which I haven't visited in 5+ years now, Holey wasn't on the same level, and it was considerably more expensive.

 

Haven't been to either of them in ages now, but the Holey's building design with ... well, holes... is certainly interesting. Thank you for reminding me of Holey. Time to check it out again, as a lot can change in pandemic. I'm happy it's still around.


I won't call you nuts, but that is some proper commitment! And yeah, it's a bit buts...

3 minutes ago, madone said:


Not sure why you find this hard to believe. There was a point where I gave up most carbs -- bread, rice, pasta, sugar -- and I certainly am not unique in that respect.

I eat bread maybe once a week now. 

Giving up carbs is one thing, and I also cut way back on my starchy carb intake.  But I'm assuming that's not the case with user I quoted.   

 

Guessing he is still eating bread, and if in TH, it's Thai bread, unless all ingredients source outside TH and cooked by foreigners.  Highly unlikely.

 

Sort of like idiots stating they'd never buy car from CN, or anything, yet, most manufactures use parts from CN.  Or USA brands (most things) are made part or whole from or in CN, along with other countries' brands.

 

Their ignorance is comical.

6 hours ago, saintdomingo said:

Thanks for all the interesting responses. Not been in Bartels for a while so it's due another call. Holeys and Conkeys are new to me so I'll look them up and try them next week. Not ate much UK white bread for many decades, it tasted like a mixture of cardboard and sawdust once you've tried the alternative.

 

I dropped by Bartels for lunch while waiting for an appointment at the Philippine Embassy next door. Very impressed.

 

So much so, I went back in the afternoon and bought a couple of their sourdoughs to take home to Isaan.

15 hours ago, Jerzy Swirski said:

I cannot stand the over sweet bread that is sold in Thailand.

Get yourself a bread maker and have your bread exactly as you like it.

Once you have worked out the settings that are good for you,

the actual bread making is very simple. Even I can do it.

Dont need a bread maker, just an oven, portables are fairly cheap and do the job, bake your own I do, rye, white and wholemeal, what ever my mood is for..and I dont add sugar, they key to a good tasting loaf is length of proofing.

14 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Don’t know why you got a thumbs down because 7 breads are indeed crapola. That stuff never goes off. Bread is not one of Thailand’s strong points. 

I guess that's because bread is not Thais staple food.

4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Yes. 99% of the whole wheat bread in Thailand is at least 50% refined white flour, it's far easier to bake using white flour as a base, so you really have to go to a high-end bakery to get whole grain bread here. I often times inquire with the baker to see what percentage of whole grain flour they use in various breads. I have found a couple of places that have whole grain rye, which is at least 90% whole grain, and I've also found a few places that have real whole wheat bread or mixed grain bread that's primarily whole and very high quality, but it tends to be pricey. Worth it though. White flour is highly toxic, and has zero nutritional value. Same with white rice. 

Yea, you'll be hard pressed to find 100% whole wheat bread, anywhere.  Using 100% whole wheat flour.  That's going to be a very dense, small (heavy) loaf of bread. 

 

If you find 100%, and it is not dense & heavy, then it's got a sh!t load of 'other' ingredients that I wouldn't put in my bread.

 

When I use whole wheat flour, it's 40% & 60% bread flour.  50/50% is too much for me, and texture isn't what I want.  Or I'll us 10% rye, 40% WWF & 50%  BF.  My ingredients; flour (500g), water (350g), salt (10g), sugar (10g or less), yeast (10gr).

 

It's also a play on words, simply calling it whole wheat bread is accurate, as all the flour will probably come from wheat.  People really do need to start paying attention to labels, if one is available.

20 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Laos has a legacy of decent bread due to the French colonisation. However, it's been a long time since I had those delightful, freshly baked, slightly crusty home-made croissants on Vientiane.

 

In Vietnam they mix wheat flour and rice flour. Those breads do not have the substantial crust, they lack the thickness of crust, and aren't as satisfying as a result.

 

Hopefuilly Laotian bread is better. 

1 hour ago, madone said:


No they are not.

If you are getting your bread from 7, it is time to reassess your dietary habits. 

The ingredients of Royal Sprouted Grain bread are wheat, soy, millet, gluten, brown sugar, oil, lecithin, yeast, salt, seeds and ascorbic acid. The same used in most breads besides brown sugar. Brown sugar isn't great, but most people eat sugar in one form or another so it isn't a bad choice.

 

The same as many other foods, which can contain a few ingredients that should only be consumed in small quantities. Most jar spaghetti sauce has some sugar, and even the Italians sometimes use a touch of sugar if the tomatoes are higher acidic.  and 7-11 has a lot of things that aren't unhealthy, just like all other stores besides the health food stores like Whole Foods Market, Sprouts Farmers Market, Trader Joes and Central Market in the US just to name a few.

 

If you're living here and aren't cooking all of your food, you are getting some ingredients that aren't especially healthy, and if eating in restaurants, you have no idea what's in them. 

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