USA US Welcomes Qatari Gift: Fiery Debate Over New Air Force One

[Hummin]

14 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

And then proven correct after the liberal meltdown subsides. To which they then say, Oh, we are so beyond talking about (insert debunked liberal hoax eg. The laptop, very fine people etc etc). Just so very predictable with you lot.

Oh my, 

 

Don’t even make me start! You just find excuses when you claim other failed governments did this and that and excuse the present. You liberals, get a grip, this is not about liberals leftists, it is about dont do stupid things, like the meeting on social media chat channels sharing intels and war plans. 

 

 

[SunnyinBangrak]

36 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Oh my, 

 

Don’t even make me start! You just find excuses when you claim other failed governments did this and that and excuse the present. You liberals, get a grip, this is not about liberals leftists, it is about dont do stupid things, like the meeting on social media chat channels sharing intels and war plans. 

 

 

Pointing out hypocrisy is not finding excuses.

When i think of doing stupid things, I dont think about your inconsequential example. I think of the 3 year 24/7 cant breathe we are screaming so hard Russia collusion hoax cooked up by Obama, Clinton, Brennan et al. Why do the forum left not thank more informed members for having bravely tried to correct the liberal hoaxers during these wasted years. How many millions of nonsense posts were made? So very stupid. 

[Hummin]

30 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Pointing out hypocrisy is not finding excuses.

When i think of doing stupid things, I dont think about your inconsequential example. I think of the 3 year 24/7 cant breathe we are screaming so hard Russia collusion hoax cooked up by Obama, Clinton, Brennan et al. Why do the forum left not thank more informed members for having bravely tried to correct the liberal hoaxers during these wasted years. How many millions of nonsense posts were made? So very stupid. 

Jadajadajada some bull pie the other way around, and still not willing to see the elephant in the room. You guys being toyed from one end to the another! 

 

This is about Trump accepting a gift from a dictatorship. Just chew on it for a second, and then spit it out. How does it taste? 

 

 

[newnative]

On 7/29/2025 at 9:00 AM, Dan O said:

The interesting issue that trumps team has left out is that the retrofit for this plane to make it usable will cost more than or equal to a new plane and that it will take 2 years to complete. The 2 new planes that trump is complaining about that are behind schedule would be finished before this one is completed.

  Yes, it's just utter madness to spend a billion with a 'b' dollars to retrofit this plane when two other planes are already being readied.   The Pentagon is already secretly shifting money to pay for this complete waste of money.  By the time this one is ready Trump will be leaving office.  

[thesetat]

On 7/29/2025 at 8:50 AM, Tug said:

Translation….we the us taxpayers are saddled with this flying whale to fix up for trump so he can take it when we are rid of him.

Not a very intelligent thing to comment here.. Am surprised you got the likes for it even one of them. The plane was not given to Trump. Any fix they make will be to add the security and advanced communications as well as aircraft deterrents and a escape bubble.  This plane (not being Trumps as you claim only because you are a Trump-hater) will belong to the next 5 or 6 presidents. How can you make such a biased comment knowing that if a Dem is voted in next year he will be using this plane? 

[Spilornis]

On 7/29/2025 at 12:01 PM, FlorC said:

That is going to be a BIG library !

Reagan's library has a 707 that was used by all presidents between Nixon and George W Bush.

The exhibit sounds rather good but the Qatari "gift" is not quite the same

[Wake Up1]

4 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

Solid gift, Great Stuff Don.

The good thing about Trump is he exposed us to how many gullible and ignorant people exist in the USA.  And they all dress alike and wear the same hat.  😎

[Ralf001]

2 minutes ago, Wake Up1 said:

The good thing about Trump is he exposed us to how many gullible and ignorant people exist in the USA.  And they all dress alike and wear the same hat.  😎

Nowt wrong with a truckers cap.

[CallumWK]

5 minutes ago, Wake Up1 said:

And they all dress alike and wear the same hat.  😎

 

Think I read somewhere that China's hat industry is in the lift

[Wake Up1]

5 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Nowt wrong with a truckers cap.

You mean a uniform truckers MAGA cap that signifies your cult membership and lack of integrity and knowledge. And your leader has an orange make up face. Grown men cheering for an old man with orange makeup that is a con and grifter. My grandfather and real men are turning in their  WW2 graves. 

[Ralf001]

2 minutes ago, Wake Up1 said:

You mean a uniform truckers MAGA cap that signifies your cult membership and lack of integrity and knowledge. And your leader has an orange make up face. Grown men cheering for an old man with orange makeup that is a con and grifter. My grandfather and real men are ituning in their  WW2 graves. 

 

Dunno what you are dribbling on about but my daily truckers cap is a genuine Nike one.. made in china.

 

I do enjoy the butthurt though, Iam not American !

[billd766]

39 minutes ago, thesetat said:

Not a very intelligent thing to comment here.. Am surprised you got the likes for it even one of them. The plane was not given to Trump. Any fix they make will be to add the security and advanced communications as well as aircraft deterrents and a escape bubble.  This plane (not being Trumps as you claim only because you are a Trump-hater) will belong to the next 5 or 6 presidents. How can you make such a biased comment knowing that if a Dem is voted in next year he will be using this plane? 

Now CAN a democrat use that aircraft? It was gifted to Trump personally, NOT to the USA, and it will go to the Trump library when he is no longer president?

[Liverpool Lou]

On 7/29/2025 at 8:50 AM, Tug said:

Translation….we the us taxpayers are saddled with this flying whale to fix up for trump so he can take it when we are rid of him.

B0llocks, it does not become his at the end of his term.

[CallumWK]

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

Now CAN a democrat use that aircraft? It was gifted to Trump personally, NOT to the USA, and it will go to the Trump library when he is no longer president?

 

I read after his term ends, it will be gifted to his presidential library.

There is enough space to store it there, because there are no books in the library

[Liverpool Lou]

On 7/29/2025 at 10:41 AM, Emdog said:

On the bright side, Trump is old and out of shape. He may be gone before the plane is ready

If it's not completed by the end of his term he won't get to use it, regardless of his age or fitness.  You seem to think that it is his!

[Liverpool Lou]

On 7/29/2025 at 1:27 PM, billd766 said:

If it is going to be Air Force One. Then it should belong to the US government and NOT to Trump.

It does/will belong to the State, as has been clearly explained, no one has stated, ever, that it will belong to him.

[Liverpool Lou]

23 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Many of us who possess reason feel the same way, but the issue is that Trump seems to be doing whatever the hell he wants to do,

As someone who claims to "possess reason" could you explain what is it that Trump has done that, in the case of this donated aircraft, could be categorised as "doing whatever the hell he wants to do"?

[Liverpool Lou]

6 hours ago, Paul Henry said:

What or who takes control of his libary once he is dead.Does the property in the libary revert back to the Government? His heirs should not be able to claim it.?

So ridiculous.  The Presidential Libraries" are not the personal property of the Presidents whose names are on them, they belong to the United States.

[Liverpool Lou]

6 hours ago, Will B Good said:

Then the finished, refitted plane is to be transferred to the " Trump Library" avoiding all taxes and the plane to be used/sold as Trump sees fit.

B0llocks.   The President after his term has no control over any assets of Presidential libraries, it is all the property of the State.

[Liverpool Lou]

4 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

Solid gift, Great Stuff Don.

Solid misunderstanding.  Great stuff, Ralf.

[DezLez]

1 hour ago, thesetat said:

 The plane was not given to Trump. Any fix they make will be to add the security and advanced communications as well as aircraft deterrents and a escape bubble.  This plane (not being Trumps as you claim only because you are a Trump-hater) will belong to the next 5 or 6 presidents. How can you make such a biased comment knowing that if a Dem is voted in next year he will be using this plane? 

From the OP;

"The White House maintains that accepting the aircraft is lawful and plans to donate it to Trump's presidential library post office."

By "post office" they mean when he leaves office so reference to future presidents using it is crap!

[DezLez]

2 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

B0llocks.   The President after his term has no control over any assets of Presidential libraries, it is all the property of the State.

Tell that to the white house;

as they said in the OP;

"The White House maintains that accepting the aircraft is lawful and plans to donate it to Trump's presidential library post office."

[Liverpool Lou]

4 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

Pound to a penny he'll find a buyer in the first week after he leaves office......or he'll sell the one he has, pocket the money from that, and just use this one.....newly fitted out at the US tax-payers expense.....tough at the top.

Bogwash.   There's a lot of unbelievable garbage being posted about something that Trump will never own.

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

This is about Trump accepting a gift from a dictatorship. Just chew on it for a second, and then spit it out. How does it taste? 

It is actually about the US government accepting the donation, nothing has been gifted to Trump personally.    Just chew on that for a second, and then spit it out. How does it taste?

[Liverpool Lou]

36 minutes ago, Wake Up1 said:

Grown men cheering for an old man with orange makeup that is a con and grifter.

Biden used to wear orange makeup?  Trump doesn't, by the way.

[DezLez]

21 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

It does/will belong to the State, as has been clearly explained, no one has stated, ever, that it will belong to him.

Not if he does a Barack Obama with it!

In May 2017, it was announced that the Barack Obama Presidential Center, the planned location of the presidential library of Barack Obama, would not be part of the NARA system, making Obama the first president since Calvin Coolidge not to have a federally owned facility.

Presidential library system - Wikipedia

[Liverpool Lou]

35 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Now CAN a democrat use that aircraft? It was gifted to Trump personally, NOT to the USA, and it will go to the Trump library when he is no longer president?

Gawd, so much ignorance.  The plane has been donated to the US, not to Trump who currently represents the State, that's all, so anyone will be able to use it.   The Trump Library, as all Presidential libraries, are state-controlled and owned entities, not personal assets.

[DezLez]

11 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

It is actually about the US government accepting the donation, nothing has been gifted to Trump personally.    Just chew on that for a second, and then spit it out. How does it taste?

In which case why does the OP state this;

"Legal experts are divided on whether accepting the plane breaches constitutional rules, which prohibit officials from taking gifts from foreign governments without Congressional consent."

This shows that they consider it to be a gift is to Trump and not to the US!

[Liverpool Lou]

15 minutes ago, DezLez said:

From the OP;

"The White House maintains that accepting the aircraft is lawful and plans to donate it to Trump's presidential library post office."

By "post office" they mean when he leaves office so reference to future presidents using it is crap!

Crap.  You really think that the US state does not control Presidential libraries and their assets?  The government decides who uses what and that could mean any President.

[spidermike007]

25 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

As someone who claims to "possess reason" could you explain what is it that Trump has done that, in the case of this donated aircraft, could be categorised as "doing whatever the hell he wants to do"?

Well maybe he was just joking, and one would have to admit that he does have an oddball sense of humor, if you can even call it humor. But the statements that he made about keeping the jet for his personal use once his presidency is finished were pretty strange at best, and highly corrupt at worst.