USA Ghislaine Maxwell’s Staggering Demands for Congressional Testimony

[The Old Bull]

16 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

^This.

Let her rot in prison.

 

 

 

In the USA grey haired old men control girls bodies till they are 18 in the UK they give up this right when the girls are 16.Looks to me that is the problem. Private jets to private islands , you can't expect me to believe that those girls did not know they would be called upon to share some skin.

[JAG]

2 minutes ago, The Old Bull said:

In the USA grey haired old men control girls bodies till they are 18 in the UK they give up this right when the girls are 16.Looks to me that is the problem. Private jets to private islands , you can't expect me to believe that those girls did not know they would be called upon to share some skin.

Quite astonishing, an attempt to justify the exploitation of children.

 

These girls were in their early teens, they were children you disgusting old pervert!

[Thingamabob]

13 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Wrong

 

 

 

 

Kindly provide details proving I am wrong.

[Thingamabob]

13 hours ago, CallumWK said:

It also doesn't matter if/why Trump threw him out, and if they met again, because the issue is the relation between Trump and Epstein before 2004.

 

Did you know that Virginia Giuffre, the one who successfully sued Prince Andrew for rape, even was an employee from Trump?

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyvn7ee3539o

 

Asked if the employees were young women, Trump responded: "the answer is yes", and added that they were hired "out of the spa" he ran.

Trump said that one of them was Virginia Giuffre, who had said she began working at Mar-a-Lago in the summer of 2000, when she was 16.

According to court documents unsealed in 2019, Giuffre alleged she was recruited by Ghislaine Maxwell to give massages to Epstein while she was working at the spa.

A Giuffre allegation. She got away with it, and a large payoff. She was much troubled by accusations of dishonesty, and sadly took her own life in Australia.

[JAG]

15 hours ago, CallumWK said:

It also doesn't matter if/why Trump threw him out, and if they met again, because the issue is the relation between Trump and Epstein before 2004.

It does matter, as the reasons which Trump is now advancing as to why he threw him out are yet more indications that Trump was party to, even if not part of, the antics surrounding Epstein

[Will B Good]

14 hours ago, atpeace said:

Secret tapes?  You aren't serious?

No

[Will B Good]

1 hour ago, Thingamabob said:

Kindly provide details proving I am wrong.

Nope

[CallumWK]

22 minutes ago, JAG said:

It does matter, as the reasons which Trump is now advancing as to why he threw him out are yet more indications that Trump was party to, even if not part of, the antics surrounding Epstein

 

Of course, it does matter, my reply was to a poster who insinuated that Trump history is as clean as that of a newborn baby, because he "pretend" that he ended the relationship with Epstein when the heat became unbearable

[CallumWK]

2 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

A Giuffre allegation. She got away with it, and a large payoff. She was much troubled by accusations of dishonesty, and sadly took her own life in Australia.

There was plenty of video evidence in the public domain to prove her claims.

You really think that millions were paid to make the case go away, and the queen disowned her own son, because there was nothing to see?

I'm sure there was a lot more evidence, which hasn't been made public because a private settlement was reached.

 

How do you think Giuffre, who was recruited by Ghislaine Maxwell, ended up as an employee of Trump?

[sharot724]

 

It seems the drama ...

 

[samtam]

23 hours ago, Andycoops said:

If they were indeed 'stolen' as the orange mysoginst claims, why didn't he report the theft to the police...

 

21 hours ago, BLMFem said:

Yeah. Epstein nicked too many of the young girls Trump was after.

 

21 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Total nonsense.  Trump did not claim that Epstein "stole his girls from me", he alleged that Epstein poached his staff.  There has never been any allegation that there were "children sex-trafficked from Mar-a-Lago".

 

@Andycoops @BLMFem

Is it legal for 16 year old girls to be working in a spa, (at Mar-a-Largo)? More specifically, what was their job? Handing out towels, giving massages?

 

@Liverpool LouThese were literally Trump's own words at Turnberry,

https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epstein-stole-virginia-giuffre-other-employees-from-mar-a-lago-spa-trump

and on board Air Force One:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-umQ115Vk&ab_channel=AssociatedPress

 

 

20 hours ago, CallumWK said:

It also doesn't matter if/why Trump threw him out, and if they met again, because the issue is the relation between Trump and Epstein before 2004.

 

Did you know that Virginia Giuffre, the one who successfully sued Prince Andrew for rape, even was an employee from Trump?

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyvn7ee3539o

 

Asked if the employees were young women, Trump responded: "the answer is yes", and added that they were hired "out of the spa" he ran.

Trump said that one of them was Virginia Giuffre, who had said she began working at Mar-a-Lago in the summer of 2000, when she was 16.

According to court documents unsealed in 2019, Giuffre alleged she was recruited by Ghislaine Maxwell to give massages to Epstein while she was working at the spa.

 

@CallumWK Virginia Giuffre did not successfully sue Prince Andrew. The case was settled for an undisclosed sum, out of court, under seal. No verifiable settlement figure has or can be released about how much was paid by Prince Andrew.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre_v._Prince_Andrew

[CallumWK]

1 minute ago, samtam said:

Virginia Giuffre did not successfully sue Prince Andrew. The case was settled for an undisclosed sum, out of court, under seal. No verifiable settlement figure has or can be released about how much was paid by Prince Andrew.

 

An out-of-court settlement to make the court case go away, is in my book a success.

[jerrymahoney]

19 minutes ago, samtam said:

Is it legal for 16 year old girls to be working in a spa, (at Mar-a-Largo)? More specifically, what was their job? Handing out towels, giving massages?

https://floridasmassagetherapy.gov/licensed-massage-therapist/

 

Can I do massage in Florida without a license?

The practice of massage therapy without a license in Florida is not only illegal but also carries significant risks and penalties. Unlicensed massage therapy can lead to severe legal repercussions, including fines, criminal charges, and even imprisonment.

 

In Florida, a person must be at least 18 years old to become a licensed massage therapist. Additionally, they must complete a board-approved massage therapy program and pass a licensing examination.

[annotator]

5 hours ago, samtam said:

 

 

 

@Andycoops @BLMFem

Is it legal for 16 year old girls to be working in a spa, (at Mar-a-Largo)? More specifically, what was their job? Handing out towels, giving massages?

 

@Liverpool LouThese were literally Trump's own words at Turnberry,

https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epstein-stole-virginia-giuffre-other-employees-from-mar-a-lago-spa-trump

and on board Air Force One:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-umQ115Vk&ab_channel=AssociatedPress

 

 

 

@CallumWK Virginia Giuffre did not successfully sue Prince Andrew. The case was settled for an undisclosed sum, out of court, under seal. No verifiable settlement figure has or can be released about how much was paid by Prince Andrew.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre_v._Prince_Andrew

You are so naive.

 

Prince Andrew finally sells Swiss ski chalet to British family for £19m after more than a year of wrangling over 'business debt'
Duke of York, 62, had been attempting to sell the chalet in Verbier since 2020
He is reported to have sold it to a British family for £19m after sale went through
Selling of chalet was said to have been to help pay Virginia Roberts settlement

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11548223/Prince-Andrew-finally-sells-Swiss-ski-chalet-British-family-19m.html

 

Who’s Paying Prince Andrew’s $16 Million Settlement to Virginia Giuffre? What to Know About Royal Finances

ueen Elizabeth II will reportedly contribute £2 million ($2.7 million) to Prince Andrew’s settlement with Virginia Giuffre in a civil sexual assault case. Although the size of the settlement agreed Feb. 15 was not disclosed, it is reportedly estimated at around £12 million ($16.3 million).

It’s been a week of catastrophic scandal for the royal family—just hours after the news of Andrew’s settlement, police in London announced an investigation into allegations that Prince Charles’ charity the Prince’s Foundation was involved in a “cash for honors” deal in which a Saudi citizen was offered a knighthood in exchange for donations. Clarence House, Charles’ London residence, reiterated a previous statement that the Prince had “no knowledge of the alleged offer of honors or British citizenship on the basis of donation to his charities.”

https://time.com/6149123/prince-andrew-settlement-virginia-giuffre-royal-finances/

[Will B Good]

[Liverpool Lou]

On 7/31/2025 at 3:09 PM, samtam said:

@Liverpool LouThese were literally Trump's own words at Turnberry,

https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epstein-stole-virginia-giuffre-other-employees-from-mar-a-lago-spa-trump

and on board Air Force One:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-umQ115Vk&ab_channel=AssociatedPress

What he said was Epstein poached his staff, he did not say that he "stole his girls" in the context that some posters suggest.

[MicroB]

16 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

What he said was Epstein poached his staff, he did not say that he "stole his girls" in the context that some posters suggest.

 

Still, rather surprised a billionaire was at all concerned that essentially a school girl in a summer job, that was basically mopping down bathrooms and changing towels, was considered an essential member of staff at the golf club. "Poached" suggests someone recruiting highly skilled and valued staff to another role. Its usually a term applied in the context of headhunters, not a 16 year old on work experience.

 

Probably its a case that the man knew what his friend was up to, and said nothing. Not the first time. A lot of people in authority knew about Jimmy Savile, Gary Glitter, Jonathan King, Harvey Weinstein, Mohamed Al Fayed, Bill Cosby, Kenin Spacy, R Kelly, Ian Watkins, Matt Gaetz and others.

 

There is a certain part of that Baby Boomer generation who really do lack common morality.

[MicroB]

On 7/31/2025 at 2:32 AM, Thingamabob said:

A Giuffre allegation. She got away with it, and a large payoff. She was much troubled by accusations of dishonesty, and sadly took her own life in Australia.

 

A disgusting and unecessary Neanderthal statement; "got away with it".  Then you imply she took committed suicide because of accusations of dishonesty; utterly reprehensible.

[MicroB]

On 7/31/2025 at 4:44 AM, CallumWK said:

There was plenty of video evidence in the public domain to prove her claims.

You really think that millions were paid to make the case go away, and the queen disowned her own son, because there was nothing to see?

I'm sure there was a lot more evidence, which hasn't been made public because a private settlement was reached.

 

How do you think Giuffre, who was recruited by Ghislaine Maxwell, ended up as an employee of Trump?

 

Some blokes go through life thinking women asked for "it". We are learning that parts of the baby boomer generation essentially normalised child abuse, and continually dismissed it. They enjoyed bopping along to Gary Glitter and his gang, Jimmy Savile fixed it for them, they sang along with Rolf Harris' Jake the Peg, they roared with Stuart Hall as he cheered England to victory. They expressed hyprocritical disgust at gay performers, such as Eton John, Freddy Mercury and George Michael. And now here they are claiming a victim of child abuse got away with it.

[bendejo]

On 7/29/2025 at 1:12 PM, webfact said:

Her legal team suggests that with clemency, she would willingly testify openly, clearing up misunderstandings around the case.

 

Translation: get me the hell out of here Donnie and I'll say whatever you want.

 

[Tug]

1 hour ago, bendejo said:

 

Translation: get me the hell out of here Donnie and I'll say whatever you want.

 

I’m inclined to agree with you on that. obviously the woman has no morals pimping kids to the rich and famous.she’s been moved to a minimum security prison in Texas possibly for release or perhaps it would be easier to kill her there.who knows definitely looks like the fix is in,surprised anyone?

[jerrymahoney]

Comer agreed to the delay: “On July 30, the U.S. Supreme Court noticed that your petition for writ of certiorari will be considered at its conference on September 29. In light of this notice, the Committee is willing to delay your deposition until a date following the Court’s certiorari determination,” he wrote.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/comer-oks-delay-ghislaine-maxwells-congressional-testimony-denies-immunity-request

[bendejo]

4 hours ago, Tug said:

I’m inclined to agree with you on that. obviously the woman has no morals pimping kids to the rich and famous.she’s been moved to a minimum security prison in Texas possibly for release or perhaps it would be easier to kill her there.who knows definitely looks like the fix is in,surprised anyone?

Now that you mention it, that minimum security concept may be about getting in, too -- she might be visited by a perfect stranger.   

 

[Thingamabob]

8 hours ago, MicroB said:

 

A disgusting and unecessary Neanderthal statement; "got away with it".  Then you imply she took committed suicide because of accusations of dishonesty; utterly reprehensible.

Not my interpretation of events. Merely quoting the Australian and American media. As I said, a sad story.

[Thingamabob]

8 hours ago, MicroB said:

 

A disgusting and unecessary Neanderthal statement; "got away with it".  Then you imply she took committed suicide because of accusations of dishonesty; utterly reprehensible.

 

 

8 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Calm down. Not my interpretation of events. Merely quoting the Australian and American media. As I said, a sad story.

 

[Liverpool Lou]

13 hours ago, MicroB said:

 

Still, rather surprised a billionaire was at all concerned that essentially a school girl in a summer job

Perfect example of the, so far, false. malicious sexual innuendo that I was referring to, nowhere has it been stated that they were " 'schoolgirls' in summer jobs",  

[MicroB]

17 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Not my interpretation of events. Merely quoting the Australian and American media. As I said, a sad story.

 

If you are quoting media, you are supposed to use the quote function and cite the sources. Otherwise, its plagiarism.

 

Do you agree with the media representation, or are you fond of presenting points of view that you disagree with as your own?

[impulse]

On 8/2/2025 at 2:14 AM, MicroB said:

Probably its a case that the man knew what his friend was up to, and said nothing. Not the first time. A lot of people in authority knew about Jimmy Savile, Gary Glitter, Jonathan King, Harvey Weinstein, Mohamed Al Fayed, Bill Cosby, Kenin Spacy, R Kelly, Ian Watkins, Matt Gaetz and others.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if Trump knew what Epstein was up to and that's why he banished him from Mar a Lago.  Taking the next step and accusing Epstein of it in public would have been quite the risk of defamation lawsuit (or worse), as if it was up to The Donald to protect the tweenies of the world when he was a private citizen.

 

[flexomike]

On 7/30/2025 at 1:21 PM, spidermike007 said:

Wretched indeed, and now the filthy White House is claiming that Trump never visited Epstein's offices, nor did Epstein ever visit Trumps offices. Epstein’s brother was recently interviewed and said that they visited each other's offices dozens of times during their 17-year friendship from 1987 to 2004, when they were very tight close, and best buddies, and while they were taking advantage of young girls together in an organized manner. 

 

Trump is very, very guilty and very, very scared. Like the Bill Clinton denials, this does not seem to be going away. 

 

 

*Trolling meme removed*

 

 

Damn it is amazing that you know so much about everything. You need to see a shrink and get your head straightened out.

[flexomike]

On 7/30/2025 at 3:39 PM, WDSmart said:

 

Dream on old man