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10 minutes ago, GreasyFingers said:

So this report on the Pakistan V India conflict is not correct.

The Pakistan J-10C, equipped with six Chinese air-to-air PL-15 missiles, identified India’s aircraft from a distance of 200 km. The PL-15s were launched from a distance of 150 km and all six Indian jets were shot down. Pakistan sustained no loss in the encounter. (Alex Krainer - Substack)

Not true... CCP progaganda to make their defence shares rise. Try looking at independent analysis.

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Just now, Sir Dude said:

Not true... CCP progaganda to make their defence shares rise. Try looking at independent analysis.

I have but cannot find anything on the usual media so that made me think that it might have some legs. Read the whole article, very interesting if true.

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1 hour ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

See the following article re the first use of the aircraft as an atack aircraft by Thailand. 

 

I had confused the Gripen for Eurofighter Typhoon,  but still  to wait around for 40 odd years for a fight is quite a feat...It's not as though there has been a shortage of "fights" over those 40 years !

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It hasn't really proven itself in combat yet. Dropping some ordonnance on a country without air force and hardly any air defense doesn't make it combat proven. Not much different from the missions in Syria.

The countries that Gripen has been sold to are pretty stable, and Thailand is probably the only one that had this long running border dispute with its neighbor. 

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4 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

I actually didn't ask for that.

My question was: how many killed they.

You won't answer, would you?

Who cares how many aggressors were killed... Are you counting all the Russians killed by Ukrainians. I don't, and hope there will be many more. 

Posted
1 minute ago, SpaceKadet said:

Who cares how many aggressors were killed... Are you counting all the Russians killed by Ukrainians. I don't, and hope there will be many more. 

How come Russians and Ukrainians here into?😳

And who is the aggressor? You didn't name it😳

Posted
2 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

I read this. It seems slightly odd. What they seem to be saying is, "We'll sell you fighter jets, but only if you don't use them to fight with."

Yeah, Sweden has some particular war tech export laws, just like Switzerland. "Yes, we'll sell you our latest war tech, but you cannot use it for its intended purpose." 

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Just now, newbee2022 said:

How come Russians and Ukrainians here into?😳

And who is the aggressor? You didn't name it😳

I would say the French, who drew this <deleted> colonial map 200 years ago, that placed this particular area within Cambodia's border, that started this all.

But let's face it, historically Siam and Kampuchea has been fighting and invading each other for hundreds of years. Nothing new here.

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3 minutes ago, SpaceKadet said:

I would say the French, who drew this <deleted> colonial map 200 years ago, that placed this particular area within Cambodia's border, that started this all.

But let's face it, historically Siam and Kampuchea has been fighting and invading each other for hundreds of years. Nothing new here.

Indeed, the roots are around 1905. 

If you want to know more I got a link for you:

https://share.google/EmSCG9BbHZwNd0FyS

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Posted
11 hours ago, JoePai said:

underscoring the capability of the Gripens in active conflict

 

... with no opposition  😎

 

Exactly.  How did they actually see combat if there were no opposing planes and they did exactly nothing.  No bombs dropped, no planes shot at.  Flying around in circles doesn't count.  Nice propoganda piece.

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4 hours ago, sparky666 said:

There are some very foolish people out there commenting on things when they have not read the actual report properly

 

 

What?! On ASEAN NOW? Well blow my bilge pump!

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4 hours ago, johng said:

 

I had confused the Gripen for Eurofighter Typhoon,  but still  to wait around for 40 odd years for a fight is quite a feat...It's not as though there has been a shortage of "fights" over those 40 years !

 

That is because the F16 is a better aircraft so more of them were made and sold around the world, not many Gripen's were sold I think.

 

The A10 Tank-Busting Warthog was fun to work on, it consisted of a heavily armoured slow moving aeroplane containing a Gatling gun the size of a car, I think it fired 3000 rounds of armour piecing bullets per minute.

 

I saw the videos taken from the pilots point of view during tests, tanks were obliterated in three seconds.

 

The F16's speed is about twice the speed of sound, the A10 is about half the speed of sound, both doing different types of missions. 

 

So if any American asks me if I have ever served my country (the Brits never asked each other this question) I say no but I saved your arse if you were in the military by helping to develop the F16 and the A10 with my work on the head up display software which enabled the pilot to fly and direct the weapons, which I am sure were used to clear any tanks etc in your path. 😃

 

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1 hour ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

That is because the F16 is a better aircraft so more of them were made and sold around the world, not many Gripen's were sold I think.

Not really, F16 is an old fighter by todays standards. And it sold more simply because the US political push, nothing else.

Why would anyone want a fighter aircraft that needs 2 hours turn around, when Gripen can do it in 15 minutes max. 

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2 minutes ago, SpaceKadet said:

Not really, F16 is an old fighter by todays standards. And it sold more simply because the US political push, nothing else.

Why would anyone want a fighter aircraft that needs 2 hours turn around, when Gripen can do it in 15 minutes max. 

 

I was comparing the F16 to the old Gripen as this was the subject of the comment, no relation to new fighter aircraft.

 

The reason the F16 sold much more than the old Gripen is because it was more flexible

 

The F-16 was known for its large-scale combat experience, extensive logistical support, and ability to integrate into NATO systems.

 

 

Posted
17 hours ago, johng said:

Did I read the article correctly  and this is the first time ever that a Gripen aircraft has seen real "combat".....unbelievable !!

Made by Saab, Sweden. Sweden is not known for getting into military conflicts. 

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On 7/31/2025 at 3:24 AM, webfact said:

.....Cambodia Clash

I personally think "clash" is an under statement if 130,000 people were advised to evacuate.

 

BTW neither a F16 or a Gripen can take out a mortar carrying drone.

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19 hours ago, Showtime said:

Exactly.  How did they actually see combat if there were no opposing planes and they did exactly nothing.  No bombs dropped, no planes shot at.  Flying around in circles doesn't count.  Nice propoganda piece.

 

As far as I can tell, they did in fact drop bombs.

 

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According to previous media reports, the Gripens, alongside F-16s, conducted precision airstrikes using GBU-12 laser-guided bombs on Cambodian artillery and ground targets near the border. 

 

(Emphasis mine).

 

After Thailand’s Gripen combat mission, questions of future sales

 

https://breakingdefense.com/2025/07/after-thailands-gripens-combat-mission-questions-of-future-sales/

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