22 hours ago, Tug said:

Quell surprise….looks like the fix is in.

She knows everything about everyone and has been thrown under the bus.

Let her sing like a canary and bring them all down.

Why should they stay free

 

Trump might try and pardon this total pedofile criminal to buy her silence. End of story.

 

If she get's pardoned you better believe NOW that Trump will do or say anything to save his ass and remain in power no matter how outrageous.

 

MAGA nuts get ready to eat your shorts cause your king Donny has take you for the long con game.

 

USA will suffer long after this total sophomore of a leader leaves office and is dead.

21 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

She knows everything about everyone and has been thrown under the bus.

Let her sing like a canary and bring them all down.

Why should they stay free

 

I would question whether a criminal case -- even without statute of limitations considerations -- could be brought against anyone just by what Ms. Maxwell has to say.

27 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

I would question whether a criminal case -- even without statute of limitations considerations -- could be brought against anyone just by what Ms. Maxwell has to say.

If they have video evidence, recordings, documentation etc and she connects the dots, then she is a prime witness.

21 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

I would question whether a criminal case -- even without statute of limitations considerations -- could be brought against anyone just by what Ms. Maxwell has to say.

Not just on her say-so, but those words would be enough to start a paper trail which could lead to convictions, including the bad orange man.

 

We have become such a litigious society that has gone WAY too far in the direction of protecting criminals at the cost of the victims. If you take a step back and look at the big picture - why the hell ELSE would she have been moved to a "penthouse penitentiary" after meeting with the president's personal attorney for two days other than to make sure she never squeals on him?

I hope the cameras are all working properly. 

20 hours ago, Emdog said:

Those animals raped more than 1000 girls. I question what sort of morals you have to suggest 5 years appropriate. "The sentence was obscenely harsh for hiring prostitutes, some of which later turned out to be underage." They frickin knew they were underage. SO did you hero Trump. It didn't "turn out". Sorry, but your view I find disgusting and reprehensible. 

Where is the proof that 1000 girls were raped?

53 minutes ago, StandardIssue said:

Trump might try and pardon this total pedofile criminal to buy her silence. End of story.

 

If she get's pardoned you better believe NOW that Trump will do or say anything to save his ass and remain in power no matter how outrageous.

 

MAGA nuts get ready to eat your shorts cause your king Donny has take you for the long con game.

 

USA will suffer long after this total sophomore of a leader leaves office and is dead.

Seems you have bought the msm narrative totally, doubt you've mentioned Epstein in 4 years if Bidens presidency, only now because the news says so

28 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

If they have video evidence, recordings, documentation etc and she connects the dots, then she is a prime witness.

If.

28 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Not just on her say-so, but

Paper trail. That no one heretofore knows about.

6 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Paper trail. That no one heretofore knows about.

I believe PLENTY of people know about it but no one is brave enough to say it in public for fear of being "suicided."

David Markus has been Ms. Maxwell's appeal attorney since 2021. Whatever cards he has to play, I think he will sit on them pending whether the Supreme Court agrees to hear her case 29SEP2025.

 

If the court says NO!, then the freewheeling may start.

 

AI quickie:

 

The Supreme Court often steps in to resolve inconsistent opinions issued by different appellate courts (also known as circuit courts or courts of appeals), ensuring a uniform application of the law across the country. This process is crucial for maintaining legal consistency and predictability. 

 

-- the Supreme Court appeal does not involve evidence at trial. It is about the non-prosecutorial agreement given to Epstein and whether that applies to Maxwell.

 

The appeal suggests that while the DoJ has said the Florida NPA does not apply to Maxell, as it was written, if in other appeal circuits, it would.

From some of the comments here it seems pedophilia is acceptable behavior in MAGAstan. It's no surprise. Perhaps MAGA Incels think it's their birthright to get it any way and with anyone they can, even by force.

 

Be from south of the border, and by Trump definition, you're a "rapist and murderer", but be Caucasian and perhaps have dirt of Trump, and "I wish her well", even if accused of an active role in pedophilia and rape.

 

How ironic that Trump gained the votes of the QAnon whackadoodles, who believe Hillary ran a pedo ring out of the basement of a DC pizza parlor that has no basement, yet when a real pedo ring is uncovered, many MAGAs are good with special treatment for the primary accomplice to actual rape and pedophilia.

 

Yet more proof, too, that with Trump accusations are ALWAYS projection.

 

Hints of a sweetheart deal for a vile criminal, just as violent terrorists from 6 Jan got pardons, but Trump says he wants to look into prosecuting Beyonce.

Yeah like when Tom Hagen visited Frank Pentangely at the army barracks before testifying in congress. This administration acting like mafia with Don acting like Don. Well dear Americans you’re reaping what you’ve sewn. Hopefully you’ll think harder next time. 

3 minutes ago, AustinRacing said:

Yeah like when Tom Hagen visited Frank Pentangely at the army barracks before testifying in congress. This administration acting like mafia with Don acting like Don. Well dear Americans you’re reaping what you’ve sewn. Hopefully you’ll think harder next time. 

 

I'd be happy with just "thinking" instead of "culting."

18 minutes ago, AustinRacing said:

Yeah like when Tom Hagen visited Frank Pentangely at the army barracks before testifying in congress.

Tom Hagen visited Pentageli AFTER he refused to testify at a hearing but before he could testify to anything else.

1 hour ago, AustinRacing said:

Yeah like when Tom Hagen visited Frank Pentangely at the army barracks before testifying in congress. This administration acting like mafia with Don acting like Don. Well dear Americans you’re reaping what you’ve sewn. Hopefully you’ll think harder next time. 

Yeah Biden was a doozy

So, please be nice in responding.  Most states in the US have 16yrs for age of consent.  I have not seen anything that said the girls were under 16yrs (maybe missed it as there is so much talk about this).  I can understand saying the girls were traffic'd for sex but not sure what is making it child sexual traffic'd.  Not being a creep, just wondering what the law says on this.  In my day as a 17yr old, by the time a girl was 14 - 16, she was going to make out point on a date and doing more than a peck on the cheek, but it was the early 70's and that was the culture then despite what the laws were.

On behalf of all the true pedophiles out there and to play the devil's advocate, having sex with a post-pubescent person does not meet the definiion of pedophilia. 

 

That does not mean it is not morally wrong, depending on the ages of the people involved, of course.    

 

And stautory rape is not the same as rape.  

 

That does not mean it is not morally wrong, depending on the ages of the people involved, of course.    

Posts with derogatory nicknames, intentional misspellings, or personal remarks will be removed. Spell names correctly for all sides of the debate.

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Quite agree.....now!.....i just wonder...could there be a treasure trove of evidence that could be released, exonerating Trump...that would certainly help his case.

If there was anything to pin on Trump the Dems would have used it to stop him running. They tried everything else.

 

I think this is a distraction from Obama & Co treasonous Russia hoax. 

Not a single thread been started here about such a huge story, but 20 threads regarding Epstein 

19 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

what pedophilia and child rape is she guilty of ?

Victims (some as young as 14) stated Maxwell participated in the abuse, including during sexualized massages.

 

 

On 8/2/2025 at 8:33 AM, brewsterbudgen said:

As long as she keeps quiet, or lies, about Trump and what he got up to with Epstein, she's going to get an easy life and maybe a pardon.

 

 

Describing any life in prison as easy seems far from reality to me.

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

If there was anything to pin on Trump the Dems would have used it to stop him running. They tried everything else.

 

I think this is a distraction from Obama & Co treasonous Russia hoax. 

Not a single thread been started here about such a huge story, but 20 threads regarding Epstein 

 

 

Talk about "a**e about face".......so the Dems guessed that in three months time Gabbard would go mental and accuse Obama of treason....so they (not Patel, Bongino, Bondi, Vance???) demanded the Epstein files to preempt the accusations of treason.....

 

That is not a stretch....that is a joint dislocating farce.

14 minutes ago, DrPhibes said:

So, please be nice in responding.  Most states in the US have 16yrs for age of consent.  I have not seen anything that said the girls were under 16yrs (maybe missed it as there is so much talk about this).  I can understand saying the girls were traffic'd for sex but not sure what is making it child sexual traffic'd.  Not being a creep, just wondering what the law says on this.  In my day as a 17yr old, by the time a girl was 14 - 16, she was going to make out point on a date and doing more than a peck on the cheek, but it was the early 70's and that was the culture then despite what the laws were.

The girls in my school were doing that in the 90s too. 

I have not seen any pictures of underage girls as it term itself implies, 15 and younger. I think the media happily blur the lines regarding this. 

On 8/2/2025 at 8:33 AM, brewsterbudgen said:

As long as she keeps quiet, or lies, about Trump and what he got up to with Epstein, she's going to get an easy life and maybe a pardon.

 

Let's hope the MAGA base don't let him get away with it!

 

The word is she will be pardoned, but only after he has left office.

 

She needs to pray he lives that long.....and....... doesn't 'manufacture' a third term.

Trump is a pedo and will pardon her for her help.

3 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

The girls in my school were doing that in the 90s too. 

I have not seen any pictures of underage girls as it term itself implies, 15 and younger. I think the media happily blur the lines regarding this. 

 

This reads like a pedophile's defence in court.

3 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

The girls in my school were doing that in the 90s too. 

I have not seen any pictures of underage girls as it term itself implies, 15 and younger. I think the media happily blur the lines regarding this. 

A sixteen year old girl with a sixteen or seventeen year old boy is different than a sixteen year old being coerced into having sex with a fat, old incestuous pedo creep Trump.

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Talk about "a**e about face".......so the Dems guessed that in three months time Gabbard would go mental and accuse Obama of treason....so they (not Patel, Bongino, Bondi, Vance???) demanded the Epstein files to preempt the accusations of treason.....

 

That is not a stretch....that is a joint dislocating farce.

No Will, the Epstein thing was already announced by bondi, the media had already started on about Trump being part of it, but its now a convenient distraction too.

I am sure there were rumblings in DC that the Obama & the russia hoax story was coming out. I doubt anything can be kept totally secret there.