1 hour ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

For Kyiv, sowing fear, chaos, division and estrangement when it can least afford them is a fatal strategic mistake. For Moscow, it is a windfall: a propaganda victory to watch Ukraine act out the Kremlin’s caricature of intolerant authoritarianism. For Ukraine, to deprive its biggest port of voice, identity and representation is not just self-harm. It is national suicide.

 

Words of wisdom. 

1 hour ago, connda said:

😡 🇺🇸  Ukraine is winning the war and to assert otherwise is to parrot Russian propaganda.

🇺🇦🤡   The Russian invasion of Europe is imminent and EU citizen should prepare survival kits and be ready to flee. 

You can't make up better fiction.  The West can't get their stories straight.  

Memo to Western Governments:
As your economies falter and anger rises among your populations, populist movements are gaining strength. Continuing to pour money into the bottomless pit that Ukraine has become is not helping.

In the UK alone, the war has already cost over £13 billion, far outweighing the much-debated cost of “the boats.” On top of that, around 220,000 Ukrainian refugees are entitled to housing, benefits if they can’t work, and school places for their children.

To those talking about “two-tier Keir” and the rest, remember he’s promising support without end.

Whether or not this war ends soon, your citizens do not want to be left footing the bill for reconstruction. Meanwhile, the virtue-signalers far from the front line or the real costs can keep on cheering the destruction from a comfortable distance.

Wise men will let the Slavic nations sort out their own squabbles and good luck to them all. But it’s not our fight, and we should have no dog in it. Britain First. 

10 minutes ago, t0mt0m said:

 

Words of wisdom. 

from that article and let's remeber this is written by a frevent Ukrainian nationalist not some Putin shill ;  Second, on the city’s language. On Monday, Ukraine’s Cabinet of Ministers approved a bill that removes Russian and Moldovan from the list of protected minority languages. The move will affect millions of Russian-speaking Ukrainians — including many on the front. Odesans, many of whom speak Russian but identify as Ukrainian, view this move as a personal insult.

12 minutes ago, t0mt0m said:

Funny, isn't it ? But don't expect logic or truth from banderites. Deceiving others and striving for war is in their genes since forever. Please look briefly to the link I pasted above and learn about their ukrainian predecessors.

 

Anyone that uses the word banderites may as well make a claim for payment from the Kremlin.

2 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Anastasia Piliavsky - Zelensky’s attack on Odesa is a step too far -THE SPECTATOR 

 

https://archive.ph/iCsch

 

Zelensky’s administration justifies these as steps toward unity. But unity by coercion is not strength; it is fear in uniform. A democracy cannot defend itself by dismantling the pluralism that gives it life. Each purge, each banned tongue or toppled monument, chips away at the civic foundations of Ukraine’s European future.
Odesa, of all cities, should have been cherished as proof of what Ukraine fights for: a free, multilingual, self-confident port facing Europe. Instead, it is being punished for precisely those qualities. The result is a profound alienation that now pervades daily conversation. After years of bombardment, Odesans now find themselves politically orphaned: their loyalty suspect, identity denied, politics usurped. I have watched the city’s fervent loyalty curdle into quiet, seething resentment.
For Kyiv, sowing fear, chaos, division and estrangement when it can least afford them is a fatal strategic mistake. For Moscow, it is a windfall: a propaganda victory to watch Ukraine act out the Kremlin’s caricature of intolerant authoritarianism. For Ukraine, to deprive its biggest port of voice, identity and representation is not just self-harm. It is national suicide.

 

 

Who is Anastasia Piliavsky?

 

Dr Anastasia Piliavsky is a Reader in Social Anthropology and Politics in the King's India Institute. She is a social anthropologist, who works on India’s democracy and the role of vernacular values, especially the hierarchical, in India’s social and political life.

 

Research

Anastasia works on India’s vernacular norms of personhood and relatedness, and the ways in which these orient India’s democratic process.

 

 

 

Emm - Ukraine, not India. She isn't even noted in Wikipedia.

1 hour ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Memo to Western Governments:
As your economies falter and anger rises among your populations, populist movements are gaining strength. Continuing to pour money into the bottomless pit that Ukraine has become is not helping.

In the UK alone, the war has already cost over £13 billion, far outweighing the much-debated cost of “the boats.” On top of that, around 220,000 Ukrainian refugees are entitled to housing, benefits if they can’t work, and school places for their children.

To those talking about “two-tier Keir” and the rest, remember he’s promising support without end.

Whether or not this war ends soon, your citizens do not want to be left footing the bill for reconstruction. Meanwhile, the virtue-signalers far from the front line or the real costs can keep on cheering the destruction from a comfortable distance.

Wise men will let the Slavic nations sort out their own squabbles and good luck to them all. But it’s not our fight, and we should have no dog in it. Britain First. 

Memo from whom?

 

Sorry, didn't get the memo.

 

Source?

1 hour ago, t0mt0m said:

 

Words of wisdom. 

Here are some words of wisdom. Putin has led Russia into a quagmire in Ukraine. The country is allocating 32% of its national budget to the war in Ukraine, which is an unproductive use of funds. If the war were to end, Russia would likely enter a recession. Continuing the war will gradually weaken the Russian economy, as spending on war is not a productive use of resources.

 

All this death and destruction is to feed Putin's fragile ego.  

 

 

1 hour ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Memo to Western Governments:
As your economies falter and anger rises among your populations, populist movements are gaining strength. Continuing to pour money into the bottomless pit that Ukraine has become is not helping.

How exactly is Putin spending 32% of the Russian government budget on trying to conquer Ukraine, helping the Russian people? 

19 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

Memo from whom?

 

Sorry, didn't get the memo.

 

Source?

It's a rhetorcial flourish from my verbiage. 

5 minutes ago, Fact said:

Here are some words of wisdom. Putin has led Russia into a quagmire in Ukraine. The country is allocating 32% of its national budget to the war in Ukraine, which is an unproductive use of funds. If the war were to end, Russia would likely enter a recession. Continuing the war will gradually weaken the Russian economy, as spending on war is not a productive use of resources.

 

All this death and destruction is to feed Putin's fragile ego.  

 

 

True and good luck to Ukraine fighting against their cousins in this fratriocidal war but as I said before (her in Britain) it's not our fight. We have neither the money nor the personnel and it's costing nations of the brink of econimic crises dear. 

5 minutes ago, Fact said:

How exactly is Putin spending 32% of the Russian government budget on trying to conquer Ukraine, helping the Russian people? 

It's not truth be told I care neither for Russia or Ukraine. Nor Upper Volta and ahost of other countries. 

Just now, beautifulthailand99 said:

True and good luck to Ukraine fighting against their cousins in this fratriocidal war but as I said before (her in Britain) it's not our fight. We have neither the money nor the personnel and it's costing nations of the brink of econimic crises dear. 

Do you have any opinion on the people from Russia dying in this silly war? 

Just now, beautifulthailand99 said:

It's not truth be told I care neither for Russia or Ukraine. Nor Upper Volta and ahost of other countries. 

You're lying.   All your posts have a pro-Putin narrative. 

2 minutes ago, Fact said:

Do you have any opinion on the people from Russia dying in this silly war? 

It's terrible do you have a view on all the people dying in the Congo or Gaza or <insert name of any conflict worldwide> but Britain shouldn't try to be the world's policeman - charity begins at home. 

3 minutes ago, Fact said:

You're lying.   All your posts have a pro-Putin narrative. 

Whatever "new user" welcome to the forum. 

33 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

 

 

Who is Anastasia Piliavsky?

 

Dr Anastasia Piliavsky is a Reader in Social Anthropology and Politics in the King's India Institute. She is a social anthropologist, who works on India’s democracy and the role of vernacular values, especially the hierarchical, in India’s social and political life.

 

Research

Anastasia works on India’s vernacular norms of personhood and relatedness, and the ways in which these orient India’s democratic process.

 

 

 

Emm - Ukraine, not India. She isn't even noted in Wikipedia.

Whatever - I'll leave you "new users" to agree amongst yourselves. 

4 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

It's terrible do you have a view on all the people dying in the Congo or Gaza or <insert name of any conflict worldwide> but Britain shouldn't try to be the world's policeman - charity begins at home. 

Britain is not being the world police. 

3 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Whatever "new user" welcome to the forum. 

All your posts in this topic look to have been written and approved by the Politburo Bureau.

1 hour ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Memo to Western Governments:
As your economies falter and anger rises among your populations, populist movements are gaining strength. Continuing to pour money into the bottomless pit that Ukraine has become is not helping.

In the UK alone, the war has already cost over £13 billion, far outweighing the much-debated cost of “the boats.” On top of that, around 220,000 Ukrainian refugees are entitled to housing, benefits if they can’t work, and school places for their children.

To those talking about “two-tier Keir” and the rest, remember he’s promising support without end.

Whether or not this war ends soon, your citizens do not want to be left footing the bill for reconstruction. Meanwhile, the virtue-signalers far from the front line or the real costs can keep on cheering the destruction from a comfortable distance.

Wise men will let the Slavic nations sort out their own squabbles and good luck to them all. But it’s not our fight, and we should have no dog in it. Britain First. 

im reading on the news right now that european NATO members will be ready to fight russia 5 years from now, without USA.

they are arming like crazy over here, and it makes me suspect trump isnt going to answer an article 5 request

3 minutes ago, mordothailand said:

im reading on the news right now that european NATO members will be ready to fight russia 5 years from now, without USA.

they are arming like crazy over here, and it makes me suspect trump isnt going to answer an article 5 request

Daddy got the people of Europe to leave their parents' house and fend for themselves.   

21 minutes ago, Fact said:

All your posts in this topic look to have been written and approved by the Politburo Bureau.

I take crypto but would shill for Israel's $7000 per post but no-one cares about this fading area of the internet, Comrade. 

Just now, beautifulthailand99 said:

I take crypto but would shill for Israel's $7000 per post but no-one cares about this fading area of the internet, Comrade. 

That's adorable! I have someone who sympathizes with Russia calling me "Comrade."

25 minutes ago, mordothailand said:

reading on the news right now that european NATO members will be ready to fight russia 5 years from now, without USA.

5 years from now  5555 🤣  by then Russia will have taken the whole of Ukraine  and NATO will still be in no position to fight Russia.

They (the West/NATO)

have totally de industrialised fallen for the net zero scam,  it would take decades to re build the factories and reskill the highly skilled  workers required for precision engineering required for military equipment on a large scale 

(unless there was a call to a war economy which would speed things up a bit)

..Russia has kept those skills and factories from the get go.

13 minutes ago, johng said:

5 years from now  5555 🤣  by then Russia will have taken the whole of Ukraine  and NATO will still be in no position to fight Russia.

They (the West/NATO)

have totally de industrialised fallen for the net zero scam,  it would take decades to re build the factories and reskill the highly skilled  workers required for precision engineering required for military equipment on a large scale 

(unless there was a call to a war economy which would speed things up a bit)

..Russia has kept those skills and factories from the get go.

i believe the 5 years is a driving reason they support ukraine, to keep russia busy until ready.

 

i agree on the net zero scam, but the speed and money poured into defense is formidable, i believe the expectation to hold,

they now lobby to order 40% of the amount in common, to get better price, speed, and commonality.

 

Italy alone has higher GDP than russia, russia cant keep up in an arms race with europe....provided theres a will !

4 minutes ago, johng said:

5 years from now  5555 🤣  by then Russia will have taken the whole of Ukraine  and NATO will still be in no position to fight Russia.

Then you woke up from your dream and realized that Russia has collapsed, much like Putin's beloved USSR.

1 minute ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Then you woke up from your dream and realized that Russia has collapsed, much like Putin's beloved USSR.

Not collapsed at all.

Just now, johng said:

Not collapsed at all.

Russia will collapse if they keep this up.    The war in Afghanistan was the nail in the coffin for the USSR. 

Just now, Mike_Hunt said:

Russia will collapse if they keep this up.    The war in Afghanistan was the nail in the coffin for the USSR. 

 

We expect sooner or later a shortage of semi conductors...

5 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Russia will collapse if they keep this up.    The war in Afghanistan was the nail in the coffin for the USSR. 

They have new trading partners  in case you didn't know.

no need to scavenge chips from the washing machines 

(not that there was any need anyway)

BRICS 

1 hour ago, johng said:

They have new trading partners  in case you didn't know.

no need to scavenge chips from the washing machines 

(not that there was any need anyway)

BRICS 

China is now virtually unstoppable in every domain, and it is shaping what appears destined to be their century. They are constructing 35 nuclear reactors and achieving record-breaking feats the tallest, longest, and largest of nearly everything. Even their new space station dwarfs the ISS, making it look like a relic of the past.

Their 5G infrastructure, developed by Chinese technology, far surpasses anything we currently have in the UK yet we abandoned Huawei’s systems. Meanwhile, Western democracy and progress are waning, and Zelensky is tethering Ukraine to a continent in decline. Attempts at European unity in this context may only hasten its demise.

Massive debt, unsustainable entitlements, and the collapse of manufacturing are accelerating the West’s decline.

 

Sorry about that if Z had any sense he would be seeking China as an ally and partner not the West then Russia wouldn't dare attack.