Does anyone still read his weekly column on Sundays? been going almost 25 years but he moved back home years ago and sold the site. I usually have a quick look for the photos, which if they are his, are usually worth looking at, none of interest today. This week must be one of the worst efforts he has ever put up, some uninteresting waffle about a trip to Mega Bangna, then frozen bank accounts and padding it out with emails from his followers. Scrapping the bottom of the barrel he has gone back to mentioning his old mate Marc the French pimp from the Eden Club a murderer, blackmailer and convicted drug dealer (in Japan). This character was the very worst of the worst yet old Stick seems to remember him with fondness, he goes on about him in admiration - his pockets being stuffed full of cash, from the dummies paying for his over the hill bar girls of course. He repeats the old lie about the brothel: 'Eden Club Marc told me nobody had ever asked for their money back' I know two who did and got told to piss off and not come back. He ends with praising another pimp Mike who just died in Pattaya this week, he treated the girls well apparently, well la dee da, that was his job. Stick seems to have a love hate relationship with the nightlife, but never mentions the negative side of it behind the lights and fake smiles. It's become just ads for bars and dodgy managers with all our yesterdays about a pimp he knew and looked up to. I wonder if his mrs reads it?

 

 

 

13 hours ago, proton said:

I wonder if his mrs reads it?

 

He's anonymous, isn't he? 

 

 

Im bored enough to search for it

Stick is well aware that he is running out of steam, while we are reaching the end of an era.

 

He was/is a very valuable actor of the Thai expat blogosphere.

12 minutes ago, Peter Crow said:

Stick is well aware that he is running out of steam, while we are reaching the end of an era.

 

He was/is a very valuable actor of the Thai expat blogosphere.

 

All he talks about are bars and brothels, that's it, readership is less than half what it used to be at it's height

20 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

He's anonymous, isn't he? 

 

 

 

Many know what his name is as he used to teach in Bkk and also a part time private eye snooping on naughty bar girl friends

4 minutes ago, proton said:

 

All he talks about are bars and brothels, that's it, readership is less than half what it used to be at it's height

Bit sleezy

16 minutes ago, proton said:

 

All he talks about are bars and brothels, that's it, readership is less than half what it used to be at it's height

So?

 

3 hours ago, proton said:

Scrapping the bottom of the barrel he has gone back to mentioning his old mate Marc the French pimp from the Eden Club a murderer, blackmailer and convicted drug dealer (in Japan).

 

Marc apparently had a warm way of making people feel extra welcome in his fine establishment, but only on his terms.
 

If you walked into Eden, sat down, ordered a beer, and failed to choose two of his girls within five minutes of receiving your drink, he would turn to you and say this is a bordello not a bar, and if you want to sit, drink, and just look at girls, then piss off and go somewhere else.
 

He would claim that if you only sat there and looked around that you would make his other customers feel uncomfortable. I never understood the logic behind that statement of his, but that was his shtick. 

 

Going from memory of the story here, Marc was killed on the outskirts of Bangkok some years back. He had retired to Phuket after selling Eden and walked away with a nice sum of cash. Presumably he was living comfortably on the island and with a local woman, but he still carried a vendetta against another foreigner who had apparently badly wronged him in the past. Word reached Marc that this man was now running a factory in Samut Prakan, so Marc went north with a gun, intent on killing him.

 

When he finally found the guy and pulled the weapon, there was a struggle. In the chaos Marc was shot in the abdomen with his own gun and died. And so that was the sudden end of Mr. Eden. Kharma. Or as the locals might say: เวรกรรม

13 minutes ago, Terrance8812 said:

 

Marc apparently had a warm way of making people feel extra welcome in his fine establishment, but only on his terms.
 

If you walked into Eden, sat down, ordered a beer, and failed to choose two of his girls within five minutes of receiving your drink, he would turn to you and say this is a bordello not a bar, and if you want to sit, drink, and just look at girls, then piss off and go somewhere else. He would claim that if you only sat there and looked around that you would make his other customers feel uncomfortable. I never understood the logic behind that statement of his, but that was his shtick. 

 

Going from memory of the story here, Marc was killed on the outskirts of Bangkok some years back. He had retired to Phuket after selling Eden and walked away with a nice sum of cash. Presumably he was living comfortably on the island and with a local woman, but he still carried a vendetta against another foreigner who had badly wronged him in the past. Word reached him that this man was running a factory in Samut Prakan near Bangkok, so Marc went north with a gun, intent on killing him.

 

When he finally found the guy and pulled the weapon, there was a struggle. In the chaos Marc was shot in the abdomen with his own gun and died. And so that was the sudden end of Mr. Eden. Kharma. Or as the locals might say: เวรกรรม

 

It was April 2022 in a Sukhumvit soi a meat processing business I think. He arranged to meet an ex associate and ex girl friend. Being terminally ill you might have thought he would have had other things on his mind other than old money vendettas, especially as he was by then very well off.

Stupidly he shot the girl dead first which gave the other Frenchman time to react, although he was shot he turned the gun on Marc and terminated him. I would have preferred him to have died in prison, gunning down a Thai would have seen to that, but dying like a rat in the gutter was a well deserved end after some of the things he did to people. Maybe karma is real after all. 

Strangely Stickman said at the time he discussed it with his mrs and they agreed Marc had only done what a Thai would have done!

4 hours ago, Peter Crow said:

Stick is well aware that he is running out of steam, while we are reaching the end of an era.

 

He was/is a very valuable actor of the Thai expat blogosphere.

I met him in Bangkok years ago in the old Woodstock  Bar in Nana where us old Nanapong.com member used to chill. Super nice guy and did well for himself.

 

I did Eden club twice myself and had a great time with 2 hotties each time. I understand Marc was a scumbag but he never bothered me when I was there.

 

The only one left around from those days is the old man boss of Thermae.

7 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I met him in Bangkok years ago in the old Woodstock  Bar in Nana where us old Nanapong.com member used to chill. Super nice guy and did well for himself.

 

I did Eden club twice myself and had a great time with 2 hotties each time. I understand Marc was a scumbag but he never bothered me when I was there.

 

The only one left around from those days is the old man boss of Thermae.

 

I met him at Woodstock as well Nanpong broke away from Nanaplaza.com can't remember why. The Dutch guy who ran Nanaplaza.com died last year. Nanapong did those dance contests and calendars with bar girl pics on.

18 minutes ago, proton said:

 

I met him at Woodstock as well Nanpong broke away from Nanaplaza.com can't remember why. The Dutch guy who ran Nanaplaza.com died last year. Nanapong did those dance contests and calendars with bar girl pics on.

Yep, I started on Nanaplaza then was a mod for a while on Nanapong. Marcel was the dutch guys name.

 

Didn't know he still existed.

 

Used to read it back in the day for entertainment

 

Wasn't ever in to that world, but it was a little like a car crash, don't want to be in it, but fascinating to watch.

3 hours ago, proton said:

 

It was April 2022 in a Sukhumvit soi a meat processing business I think. He arranged to meet an ex associate and ex girl friend. Being terminally ill you might have thought he would have had other things on his mind other than old money vendettas, especially as he was by then very well off.

Stupidly he shot the girl dead first which gave the other Frenchman time to react, although he was shot he turned the gun on Marc and terminated him. I would have preferred him to have died in prison, gunning down a Thai would have seen to that, but dying like a rat in the gutter was a well deserved end after some of the things he did to people. Maybe karma is real after all. 

Strangely Stickman said at the time he discussed it with his mrs and they agreed Marc had only done what a Thai would have done!

Shadow Jack, another bar owner from that same era, was also apparently killed after selling his bar. At the time he was said to be living up in Isarn with a Thai partner. Some believed his death was retribution for his video peephole collection of sex tapes secretly shot using hidden cameras in his short time rooms. Jack was always a confidant for much of the intel Trink used for his weekly Night Owl column, and the two of them were often seen chatting early evening outside in front of Shadow Jack’s bar in Cowboy back in the day. Jack may also have been an early source of nightlife information for Stickman during the first years of his weekly website installments.

8 hours ago, proton said:

Does anyone still read his weekly column on Sundays? been going almost 25 years but he moved back home years ago and sold the site.

 

I stopped reading shortly after he went back home. Someone tried to take over writing the column for a while after that... Have hardly read it over the past years, even though Stickman started writing it again, partly due to the fact that it is largely about Bangkok's nightlife, which I don't find that interesting anymore. (Last time, I went to any bar in Bangkok was like five years ago.)

 

Plus it seems to be made up of 'second-hand reports' now, as the author lives close to 7,000 miles away...

There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens.  He had his run
 

35 minutes ago, Terrance8812 said:

Shadow Jack, another bar owner from that same era, was also apparently killed after selling his bar. At the time he was said to be living up in Isarn with a Thai partner. Some believed his death was retribution for his video peephole collection of sex tapes secretly shot using hidden cameras in his short time rooms. Jack was always a confidant for much of the intel Trink used for his weekly Night Owl column, and the two of them were often seen chatting early evening outside in front of Shadow Jack’s bar in Cowboy back in the day. Jack may also have been an early source of nightlife information for Stickman during the first years of his weekly website installments.

 

Thats interesting did not know that, last time I saw Trink was in Angelwitch, had that owl thing round his neck.

58 minutes ago, connda said:

There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens.  He had his run
 

As did we all. One way to recognize old timers is by asking if they ever ate at Yong Lee. Dont think many folks go there anymore. Eat there and go around the corner to the Thermae back door.

10 hours ago, proton said:

This character was the very worst of the worst yet old Stick seems to remember him with fondness, he goes on about him in admiration

Friend with benefits?

10 hours ago, proton said:

 

Thats interesting did not know that, last time I saw Trink was in Angelwitch, had that owl thing round his neck.

Yeah, he always wore that big owl pendant hanging down to his abdomen that his wife gave him.
 

If Trink and the history of the nightlife scene in Bangkok from the late 1950s to around Y2K interest you, you might enjoy a book by an Australian woman who used to work with him at the Bangkok Post. She wrote it as a biography of his life, but it also includes a lot of interesting history about Bangkok's nightlife spanning roughly 40 years. The book is appropriately titled "But I Don’t Give a Hoot." It was published in 2000 and has been out of print for a long time I believe, but some used copies may still be floating around the used bookstores in Thailand. It is an easy read, and you might be able to find one around if you are interested.

16 hours ago, Terrance8812 said:

 

Marc apparently had a warm way of making people feel extra welcome in his fine establishment, but only on his terms.
 

If you walked into Eden, sat down, ordered a beer, and failed to choose two of his girls within five minutes of receiving your drink, he would turn to you and say this is a bordello not a bar, and if you want to sit, drink, and just look at girls, then piss off and go somewhere else.
 

He would claim that if you only sat there and looked around that you would make his other customers feel uncomfortable. I never understood the logic behind that statement of his, but that was his shtick. 

 

Going from memory of the story here, Marc was killed on the outskirts of Bangkok some years back. He had retired to Phuket after selling Eden and walked away with a nice sum of cash. Presumably he was living comfortably on the island and with a local woman, but he still carried a vendetta against another foreigner who had apparently badly wronged him in the past. Word reached Marc that this man was now running a factory in Samut Prakan, so Marc went north with a gun, intent on killing him.

 

When he finally found the guy and pulled the weapon, there was a struggle. In the chaos Marc was shot in the abdomen with his own gun and died. And so that was the sudden end of Mr. Eden. Kharma. Or as the locals might say: เวรกรรม

Never really understood why, if you have a gun and intend to shoot someone, do you get close enough for a) a struggle and b) for them to take it off you and shoot you!

5 hours ago, JAG said:

Never really understood why, if you have a gun and intend to shoot someone, do you get close enough for a) a struggle and b) for them to take it off you and shoot you!

A pistol shot normally do not drop down the person unless it was a killer shot to the head. If not, the guy would have more than a few seconds to act before dropping down. It is only in movies where a shot would bring down a guy in succession. 

On 8/31/2025 at 7:31 PM, Yagoda said:

Yep, I started on Nanaplaza then was a mod for a while on Nanapong

That makes two of us......😉

Did not realise there were any nanapongers around. Dance contests a blast

On 8/31/2025 at 4:46 AM, Terrance8812 said:

Marc apparently had a warm way of making people feel extra welcome in his fine establishment, but only on his terms.

 

Both Stickman and Bernard Trink were big fish in small pond, with each dominating his own niche in covering the Bangkok night life scene.  Neither had any formal training in journalism but nevertheless managed to convey a lot of useful information in an entertaining manner.  Stickman was the better writer of the two, but Trink had closer connections to the scene.

 

I knew Marc back when he was managing the Eden.  I got to know him as a customer at the Eden Club and he liked the posts I made to the Bangkok boards. He would invite  me for dinner at a restaurant- an expensive one- every time I was in town.

 

Contrary to what many people believe, Marc was not the owner of the Eden Club.  He was its founder and manager, but held only a minority stake.  The majority owner was an older Frenchman who had nothing to do with the every-day running of the club.  Rumor had it the majority owner was connected to the Marseille mob, but that was only rumor.  Some very influential Thais, and I mean VERY INFLUENTIAL, also had minority stakes in Eden.  That's why, again according to rumor, Eden was never raided, even during the big crackdowns on the BKK commercial sex scene in the early 2000s.

 

Marc realized that a lot of male visitors to Thailand had fantasies about a porn star experience with two or more ladies at the same time.  The ladies at Eden were willing to do just about anything with each other and the customer.  That level of service wasn't easy to find elsewhere and Eden flourished. Prices were reasonable for the 90-minute two-girl sessions, but not cheap, which helped keep away the crowds of Nana Plaza Neanderthals who chased discount draft.  The girls had a lot of respect and affection for Marc because he took such good care of them, mainly through providing a safe place to work.

 

Marc had some strict rules for Eden, but they made perfect sense.  He made clear to everyone from the moment they stepped into Eden that it was a brothel, not a hostess bar.  The guys who wanted to buy drinks for girls or sit for a long time nursing a beer were in the wrong place.  That made perfect sense because Eden was a narrow shophouse with only 15 seats at the bar.   There just wasn't space for  guys who had no intention of availing themselves of the club's services to hang around.  In addition, Marc wanted Eden to be as discrete as possible, so limiting gawkers was a logical move.

 

All-in-all, I found Eden to be one of the best experiences I ever had in Thailand.  Countless others felt the same and never had any problems with Marc.

 

On 8/31/2025 at 1:00 AM, Peter Crow said:

Stick is well aware that he is running out of steam, while we are reaching the end of an era.

 

He was/is a very valuable actor of the Thai expat blogosphere.

To who?  He's been dead to me ever since he decided all men who go to to Thailand are low life scum sex tourists (his words) and all bargirls have HIV.  That was probably 15 years ago now.  I think that was pretty much all he wrote about almost non-stop.  And how all the red light areas were dirty disease and crime ridden swamps of humanity.  Again, his words, or something to that effect.  At the same time I think he was trying to start some private eye business spying on girls for foreigners to see if they were cheating on them 🤦‍♂️.  I think the rumor at the time was that his Thai girlfriend dumped him and he became extremely bitter about Thailand after that.   I think he left with his tail between his legs shortly after that.

From Sticky-Stick:

 

https://www.stickmanbangkok.com/weekly-column/2022/06/au-revoir-monsieur/

 

And the BKK Post article about it:

 

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2304654/two-dead-one-wounded-in-shooting-at-bangkok-cold-cuts-company

 

Quote

 

With the huge success of Eden Club, Marc acquired Absolute Bar – a bar on the same soi – which he converted into Bangkok Beat, a live music bar / disco which would become popular with freelancers and just like Eden Club, go on to become a great success.

Soi 7/1 transformed from a quiet soi with little of interest to one worth stopping by. Eden Club’s popularity attracted more bars and Sukhumvit soi 7/1 would become known as Soi Eden, a nickname that remains today.

But nothing lasts forever and with various health issues, Marc was keen to cash out and enjoy life.

Marc had had his ticker rewired some years earlier and was a heavy smoker. Away from the smile, he never looked like a well man. His plan was to head down to Phuket and enjoy retirement. That was around 2010 and I guess Marc would have been early 50s or so.

I can’t remember exactly when each of Eden Club and Bangkok Beat sold, nor do I remember how much each went for. I do seem to recall that Marc had been asking north of 50 million baht for Eden Club and a little less for Bangkok Beat. Rumours were rife but it is generally accepted that he pocketed somewhere in the range of 75 – 90 million baht total for the two venues – more than enough to sail off in to the sunset and see his days out in comfort. Not bad for a guy who arrived in Bangkok with 100 baht to his name.

I had little contact with Marc after he left Bangkok. The occasional email would come. Then silence. Nothing. The last time I heard from him was several years ago and he sounded happy. The days of deep discussions over dinner had passed and while he would happily chat in person for hours, he wasn’t big on lengthy emails.

I am surprised his bad ticker didn’t get him first. Marc would exit this world in what sounds like it was a dramatic final scene in a Steve Leather thriller where all manner of plot twists come together and all hell breaks out.

The mainstream media news reports of the events of that fateful day in early May aren’t all that clear and we’ll never know exactly what led to two people dying.

It appears that Marc had gone along to a food factory in Sukhumvit soi 49 to settle a score with a fellow Frenchman with whom he had had business dealings.

He carried a black bag with him, and in that bag was a gun. He had arranged to meet a lady there too, believed to be a former love interest.

At the factory, Marc shot the lady, killing her instantly. He then shot the other Frenchman. The shot was to the lower abdomen and caused serious damage but it wasn’t lethal. In the melee the younger Frenchman managed to get his hands on the gun, turning it on Marc, shooting and killing him.

A handwritten note in English found on Marc by police shows that he had gone to the factory with a plan to shoot both the lady and his business associate and then turn the gun on himself. The note instructed those who found it to use the money on him to pay for his cremation.

Since that fateful day last month it has been revealed that Marc had late-stage lung cancer.

It’s a sad way for one of Bangkok’s bar industry characters to exit this world, a sad way to say goodbye to the city he once loved. Au revoir, Monsieur Eden. Rest in peace.

 

 

8 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

Both Stickman and Bernard Trink were big fish in small pond, with each dominating his own niche in covering the Bangkok night life scene.  Neither had any formal training in journalism but nevertheless managed to convey a lot of useful information in an entertaining manner.  Stickman was the better writer of the two, but Trink had closer connections to the scene.

 

I knew Marc back when he was managing the Eden.  I got to know him as a customer at the Eden Club and he liked the posts I made to the Bangkok boards. He would invite  me for dinner at a restaurant- an expensive one- every time I was in town.

 

Contrary to what many people believe, Marc was not the owner of the Eden Club.  He was its founder and manager, but held only a minority stake.  The majority owner was an older Frenchman who had nothing to do with the every-day running of the club.  Rumor had it the majority owner was connected to the Marseille mob, but that was only rumor.  Some very influential Thais, and I mean VERY INFLUENTIAL, also had minority stakes in Eden.  That's why, again according to rumor, Eden was never raided, even during the big crackdowns on the BKK commercial sex scene in the early 2000s.

 

Marc realized that a lot of male visitors to Thailand had fantasies about a porn star experience with two or more ladies at the same time.  The ladies at Eden were willing to do just about anything with each other and the customer.  That level of service wasn't easy to find elsewhere and Eden flourished. Prices were reasonable for the 90-minute two-girl sessions, but not cheap, which helped keep away the crowds of Nana Plaza Neanderthals who chased discount draft.  The girls had a lot of respect and affection for Marc because he took such good care of them, mainly through providing a safe place to work.

 

Marc had some strict rules for Eden, but they made perfect sense.  He made clear to everyone from the moment they stepped into Eden that it was a brothel, not a hostess bar.  The guys who wanted to buy drinks for girls or sit for a long time nursing a beer were in the wrong place.  That made perfect sense because Eden was a narrow shophouse with only 15 seats at the bar.   There just wasn't space for  guys who had no intention of availing themselves of the club's services to hang around.  In addition, Marc wanted Eden to be as discrete as possible, so limiting gawkers was a logical move.

 

All-in-all, I found Eden to be one of the best experiences I ever had in Thailand.  Countless others felt the same and never had any problems with Marc.

 

 

 

This mudering low life pimp and blackmailer will always have his fans it seems, which I find odd, even Stickman admired him- for what exactly? he seemed to attract crawlers by taking them out for meals so they would write good reviews of the dump. It's similar to people hero worshiping the Kray twins, or Pablo Escobar. These people ruin other's lives and were, like Marc, killers but are looked up to and made excuses for, when they should receive nothing but condemnation.

 

The Eden club was a lie from the start, it was not a club but a sleazy brothel and could not have been that well connected as he had to stop using the premises for the action and the girls had to start using nearby rooms. His 90 minutes was another lie, they got punters in and out as fast as they could, if you wanted a refund you were told to piss off, the clueless and those fresh off the plane seemed to like it though, and the sub standard lookers involved in this sex factory.

Bangkok is better off without thugs like Marc polluting it, just a pity he did not end up where he belonged, which was in prison for murder.

4 hours ago, short-Timer said:

From Sticky-Stick:

 

https://www.stickmanbangkok.com/weekly-column/2022/06/au-revoir-monsieur/

 

And the BKK Post article about it:

 

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2304654/two-dead-one-wounded-in-shooting-at-bangkok-cold-cuts-company

 

 

 

Yes that was that was it, most people with a terminal illness would try to make amends, or spend some time reflecting on their life, not Marc he decided to go out and murder two people instead. He was a thoroughly evil individual, and providing worn out girls, who would do anything to punters for high charges did not make him any less so.