3 hours ago, ezzra said:

One man' genocide is another a fight for survival in a sea of countries who just want to see Israel gone, and forever,

and they don't even try to hide that intention, they will tell it to anyone: we want to destroy and annihilate

all the Jewish people and take their land, as simple as that, and the world, dose it's best to play coy.

I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone argue (justify) genocide as a ‘fight for survival’.

 

It’s surely a new low…. For the time being.

5 minutes ago, placnx said:

I looked at the website of the International Association of Genocide Scholars. To join, it's required to fill in a bio statement and indicate one's affiliation. So it seems that members need to have some qualifications to join.

think they check that? Make sure everything checks out as declared?

 

or just check that the membership fee cleared?

 

I bet I could be a member by 5pm

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

you said

 

 

You are speculating that the scholars who never voted are Jewish and then speculate I answered my own question. Again I will stick with the facts.

 

 

 

And the facts are that Israel is despised the world over and many believe Israel is committing genocide.

 

You cannot defend Israel's actions Brian, and to do so offends my humanity.

4 hours ago, 300sd said:

Think you have that backwards. The notorious murderers are Hamas and much of the Palestinian population is complicit with Hamas. The UN is also in bed.  UNRWA, you have heard of them haven't you? Hamas captured and murdered innocent Jews. Hamas is getting exactly what they want now. People like you up in arms against Israel.

"People like you up in arms against Israel."

That sentiment would include the whole world... every single country that doesn't have an active Israel lobby promoting the interests of this despised regime.

Can you name one country that supports Israel without some sort of carrot and stick coercion?

2 hours ago, loong said:

 

Almost 700 days of war.
63,000 deaths in Gaza, some are Hamas fighters, some were killed by Hamas, some were killed by Hamas/PIJ missiles falling short and killing Palestinians. Some were deaths unrelated to the war.

That is, on average 90 deaths a day. One of the criteria for genocide is that there has to be intent. No, if there was intent to commit genocide, do you honestly believe that the IDF can only manage to kill less than 90 civilians per day in a densly populated area such as Gaza? On Oct 7th 2023 Hamas managed to kill 1200 in less than a day. Now, that IS genocidal intent! Hamas actually announces their genocidal intent, but the world seems to ignore that.

Total extermination is not the only way to commit genocide.

 

Any one of five specific acts can be considered Genocide.

 

The five specific acts that constitute genocide are: killing members of the group, causing serious bodily or mental harm to group members, deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about the group's physical destruction, imposing measures to prevent births within the group, or forcibly transferring children of the group to another. 
 

Don’t offend human decency by telling me none of that is happening.

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

And the facts are that Israel is despised the world over and many believe Israel is committing genocide.

 

You cannot defend Israel's actions Brian, and to do so offends my humanity.

nothing to do with my post and the facts I quoted from the BBC, again.....

 

9 words: carpet bomb the <deleted> out of the zionists already! 

1 hour ago, DeaconJohn said:

 

Can you name one country that supports Israel without some sort of carrot and stick coercion?

 

   Morocco 

1 minute ago, pacovl46 said:

9 words: carpet bomb the <deleted> out of the zionists already! 

 

   8 words : 1 word was deleted 🙂

Repeated derogatory generalisations will earn you a holiday.

 

1 hour ago, DeaconJohn said:

 

Can you name one country that supports Israel without some sort of carrot and stick coercion?

 

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Morocco 

Mass protests in Morocco against Israel’s war in Gaza and US support

In one of the country’s largest demonstrations in months, protesters filled the streets of the capital Rabat.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/4/6/mass-protests-in-morocco-against-israels-war-in-gaza-and-us-support

On 9/2/2025 at 4:09 AM, webfact said:

Further alleging discrimination, Israel brands the ICJ case as being rooted in antisemitism, using terms like "blood libel".

The shoe obviously fits. 

At some point in the future those crimes of genocide and ethnic cleansing by far-right Israeli government official and settlers will be prosecuted. Just a matter of time.

3 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

Mass protests in Morocco against Israel’s war in Gaza and US support

In one of the country’s largest demonstrations in months, protesters filled the streets of the capital Rabat.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/4/6/mass-protests-in-morocco-against-israels-war-in-gaza-and-us-support

 

    You did ask for Countries 

1 minute ago, connda said:

At some point in the future those crimes of genocide and ethnic cleansing by far-right Israeli government official and settlers will be prosecuted.

 

Lets hope so..."only following ze orders "  has already been dismissed as an excuse.

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    You did ask for Countries 

No I didn’t 

12 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

No I didn’t 

 

    Oh OK, it was someone else who asked the question and I was talking to them .

   The question was about which Countries support Israel

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Oh OK, it was someone else who asked the question and I was talking to them .

   The question was about which Countries support Israel

That’s right, and my response indicated how even historical friends with Israel are turning against them.

2 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

That’s right, and my response indicated how even historical friends with Israel are turning against them.

 

    You were talking about the people protesting .

That is separate and different to Countries official stance .

We were talking about Governments policies , rather than street protestors

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    You were talking about the people protesting .

That is separate and different to Countries official stance .

We were talking about Governments policies , rather than street protestors

It’s common for street protests to affect government policy.

3 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

It’s common for street protests to affect government policy.

 

   No it isn't 

On 9/2/2025 at 4:09 AM, webfact said:

 

 

Lights, camera, action don't move Abdul, play dead again for 5 minutes and try not to breathe brother.

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone argue (justify) genocide as a ‘fight for survival’.

 

It’s surely a new low…. For the time being.

 

Don't think I have heard so many people cry 'genocide' over war casualties. All Hamas have to do is surrender.

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Morocco 

Morocco appears to back both sides and is not the best example Nick.

 

It has recognized Palestine and On 6 October 2023, the day before the Hamas launched an attack on Israel, Morocco's Minister of Foreign Affairs Nasser Bourita met with Hussein al-Sheikh, Secretary of the Executive Committee of the Palestine Liberation Organization, and reaffirmed Morocco's unwavering support for the Palestinian cause.

 

Relationship between the Kingdom of Morocco and the State of Palestine has been historically deep, yet complicated. Morocco has a consulate in Gaza while Palestine has an embassy in Rabat.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocco–Palestine_relations

 

 

3 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Morocco appears to back both sides and is not the best example Nick.

 

It has recognized Palestine and On 6 October 2023, the day before the Hamas launched an attack on Israel, Morocco's Minister of Foreign Affairs Nasser Bourita met with Hussein al-Sheikh, Secretary of the Executive Committee of the Palestine Liberation Organization, and reaffirmed Morocco's unwavering support for the Palestinian cause.

 

Relationship between the Kingdom of Morocco and the State of Palestine has been historically deep, yet complicated. Morocco has a consulate in Gaza while Palestine has an embassy in Rabat.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocco–Palestine_relations

 

 

 

    We are talking about Morocco's relationship with Israel , rather than talking about Morocco's relationship with Palestine  

8 hours ago, WDSmart said:

I've been saying this on these forums for the past 22 months, but it has been occurring for the past 70 years... 😡

 

Jews have been victims of attempted genocide for more than  2,000 years.  That's why they defend Israel so strongly.  Never again is now!

 

8 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

And what happens now to the notorious murderers?

 

Hamas will come under attack as long as they fail to recognize Israel's right to exist and continue to make terrorist attacks on Israelis.  If Hamas surrenders, the conflict will end.

 

4 hours ago, placnx said:

There is talk of a Uniting for Peace resolution in the General Assembly to send peacekeepers. 

 

8 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

And the world is a helpless bystander only instead of sending UN forces to stop the murders.

 

The U.S. would veto any U.N. resolution aimed at sending U.N. forces against Israel, so that's not going to happen.  And even if such a resolution were able to pass, what countries would be willing to send their troops to confront the IDF?  The IDF is probably the best trained and equipped military force in the world and definitely the most experienced in modern war.

 

2 hours ago, pacovl46 said:

9 words: carpet bomb the <deleted> out of the zionists already! 

 

Which country's air force would be capable of carpet bombing Israel?  Or is that just fantasy thought on your part, since gas chambers are no longer a realistic possibility?  Remember, Jews won't walk to their slaughter this time round.  Never again is now!

45 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    We are talking about Morocco's relationship with Israel , rather than talking about Morocco's relationship with Palestine  

 

I think you mean YOU are talking about Morocco's relationship with Israel!

 

I am talking about Morocco not being a good choice by you as an example

8 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

Hamas will come under attack as long as they fail to recognize Israel's right to exist and continue to make terrorist attacks on Israelis.  If Hamas surrenders, the conflict will end.

In 2017 Hamas changed their charter, saying they would accept the 1967 borders.

 

Hamas are freedom fighters and Israel the terrorist to an increasing number of people , open your eyes and read unbiased news.
Israel should surrender, by releasing ALL political prisoners, TOTAL withdrawal of all Palestinian areas, taking all illegal  “settlements” out of the West Bank and reverting to the 1967 borders. This whole mess is due to Israel’s despicable discrimination and abuse of Palestinians, a blockade, Apartheid and checkpoints which make life for Palestinians practically unbearable. Take a few minutes and listen to the expert on video on the previous page.

 

Multiple armed groups operate in Gaza and beyond (e.g., Palestinian Islamic Jihad), and core disputes (occupation, borders, refugees, Jerusalem) predate Hamas and persist independently of its decisions. Removing or disarming Hamas would not end violence or resolve those issues.

 

The hostilities have repeatedly affected civilians far beyond Hamas.
Years before the current war, international bodies described the Gaza closure as collective punishment, which is of course illegal, underscoring that policies weren’t narrowly conditioned on Hamas recognition or surrender. That history contradicts the idea that “Hamas alone” is the trigger for attacks. 
 

 

28 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

Jews have been victims of attempted genocide for more than  2,000 years.  That's why they defend Israel so strongly.  Never again is now!

 

 

Past history is no excuse for the current genocide.

 

2 minutes ago, JimCM said:

In 2017 Hamas changed their charter, saying they would accept the 1967 borders.

 

Hamas are freedom fighters and Israel the terrorist to an increasing number of people , open your eyes and read unbiased news.
Israel should surrender, by releasing ALL political prisoners, TOTAL withdrawal of all Palestinian areas, taking all illegal  “settlements” out of the West Bank and reverting to the 1967 borders. This whole mess is due to Israel’s despicable discrimination and abuse of Palestinians, a blockade, Apartheid and checkpoints which make life for Palestinians practically unbearable. Take a few minutes and listen to the expert on video on the previous page.

 

Multiple armed groups operate in Gaza and beyond (e.g., Palestinian Islamic Jihad), and core disputes (occupation, borders, refugees, Jerusalem) predate Hamas and persist independently of its decisions. Removing or disarming Hamas would not end violence or resolve those issues.

 

The hostilities have repeatedly affected civilians far beyond Hamas.
Years before the current war, international bodies described the Gaza closure as collective punishment, which is of course illegal, underscoring that policies weren’t narrowly conditioned on Hamas recognition or surrender. That history contradicts the idea that “Hamas alone” is the trigger for attacks. 
 

 

 

Well said

1 hour ago, proton said:

 

Don't think I have heard so many people cry 'genocide' over war casualties. All Hamas have to do is surrender.

This started many years ago, if Hamas surrender another group of freedom fighters would take over. 
Hamas did not start this war.

• Starting in the early 1990s, Israel made it increasingly difficult for Palestinians and commercial goods to enter or leave Gaza, which along with the West Bank and East Jerusalem has been under Israeli military occupation since 1967. In 2007, following Hamas’ victory in parliamentary elections for the Palestinian Authority, Israel imposed a suffocating siege and naval blockade on Gaza that have been repeatedly condemned by the UN and rights groups as collective punishment of the entire population and illegal.
• 
   
• https://imeu.org/article/fact-sheet-legal-status-of-israels-siege-blockade-of-gaza?utm_source=chatgpt.com

3 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

I think you mean YOU are talking about Morocco's relationship with Israel!

 

I am talking about Morocco not being a good choice by you as an example

 

   We were actually talking about Israel's relationship with Morocco.

Morocco has  friendly relationship with Israel .