3 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

But what do you do when you know those unnecessary civilian deaths are taking place?

 

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

 

Weep, but its not about what I do, that is not the topic, I was addressing a post breaking forum rules on its highly inflammatory content and false claims 

38 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Jeff : You re saying that I am a rapist and a murderer ?

Maybe be an idea to self delete your silly post ?

No, but your comment a blasphemous towards jews, which is way past being an antisemite, relentlessly going about the worn-out BS of Genocide, starvation, cruelty, Blah, Blah, Blah, come up with new accusation, you're boring us already.

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    What are you doing to stop Hamas carrying out another terror attack ?

Isn't that the point? 4 wars were fought between Israel and Palestinian military groups including Hamas last 20 odd years and numerous violent protests by Palestinians that were violently suppressed by the IDF. Israel must seek a 2 state solution to stop the another terror attack or war.

6 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Isn't that the point? 4 wars were fought between Israel and Palestinian military groups including Hamas last 20 odd years and numerous violent protests by Palestinians that were violently suppressed by the IDF. Israel must seek a 2 state solution to stop the another terror attack or war.

 

    Palestine doesn't want a 2 state solution though .

Palestine are fighting for  1 state solution .

Allowing Palestine to have their own Country in a 2 state solution will just be giving them a platform to attack Israel

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Palestine doesn't want a 2 state solution though .

Palestine are fighting for  1 state solution .

Allowing Palestine to have their own Country in a 2 state solution will just be giving them a platform to attack Israel

Rubbish as usual. The 2 state solution is supported by many countries and the Palestinian Authority. Israel currently does not support the idea although it has in the past. 

1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

Rubbish as usual. The 2 state solution is supported by many countries and the Palestinian Authority. Israel currently does not support the idea although it has in the past. 

 

    Hamas doesn't support the 2 state solution and they rule Gaza .

Its also questionable as to whether the P.A would keep to any agreement or whether they would attack Israel again .

    Israel does not rust the Palestinians  to abide by any agreements  

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

That's a highly offensive and inflammatory personal attack on those who support Israel and its fight against Hamas. You do not have to support unnecessary Palestinian civilian deaths to support Israel against Hamas.

Many here are disgrace to this publication, with their myopic and selective vision by completely ignoring other place in the world where in places like the Sudan, where hundreds of thousands Muslim's!!! are starved, murdered and driven out of their home by MUSLIM militia, and yet, no one in the world gives a sh#t, why? no jews there, to make the issue 'juicy' enough to solicits billions in donations that goes to Hamas and middlemen, or a misguided lunatic Greta, to organize a flotilla to Sudan because it's 'in-land,

10 days ago, I put it to the readers of these pages, no one replied except one' who quipped: well, those militias don't get aid from the US, Israel does, Good reply, right?

17 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Hamas doesn't support the 2 state solution and they rule Gaza .

Its also questionable as to whether the P.A would keep to any agreement or whether they would attack Israel again .

    Israel does not rust the Palestinians  to abide by any agreements  

Needless to say that your opinion doesn't matter. Hamas 2017 charter "A document of General Principles and Policies" accept a 2 states status. 

10 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Needless to say that your opinion doesn't matter. Hamas 2017 charter "A document of General Principles and Policies" accept a 2 states status. 

 

   From the 2017 Hams charter

 

2. Palestine, which extends from the River Jordan in the east to the Mediterranean in the west and from Ras Al-Naqurah in the north to Umm Al-Rashrash in the south, is an integral territorial unit. It is the land and the home of the Palestinian people. The expulsion and banishment of the Palestinian people from their land and the establishment of the Zionist entity therein do not annul the right of the Palestinian people to their entire land and do not entrench any rights therein for the usurping Zionist entity.

 

Hamas invading Israel in 2023 shows what their intentions are 

10 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Needless to say that your opinion doesn't matter. Hamas 2017 charter "A document of General Principles and Policies" accept a 2 states status. 

Yes, but the operative word here is 'accepts' the Palestinians knocked back two state offers offered by Israel on 4 separate occasions, now, go on and tell me that it isn't so, if you will, then you're really out of your depth here and part of a modern Lynch mob who are looking to hang people no matter what the truth is, as long as you're happy in what you think you know.

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

Isn't that the point? 4 wars were fought between Israel and Palestinian military groups including Hamas last 20 odd years and numerous violent protests by Palestinians that were violently suppressed by the IDF. Israel must seek a 2 state solution to stop the another terror attack or war.

It was offered and rejected by the Palestinas of 4 separate occasions, now go on and rebuke this information. 

2 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

To my eternal shame, all I can do is call out people like you who support what Israel is doing.

 

 

    Israel are fighting back against a  terrorist group and trying to free the hostages .

You seem to side with the terrorists baby killing war criminals Palestinians 

3 minutes ago, ezzra said:

It was offered and rejected by the Palestinas of 4 separate occasions, now go on and rebuke this information. 

No it didn't happen. There are no specific records of Hamas rejecting a 2 states on 4 occasions. 

5 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

No it didn't happen. There are no specific records of Hamas rejecting a 2 states on 4 occasions. 

Read the attached article and see for yourself:

https://honestreporting.ca/glossary/the-two-state-solution-israels-history-and-obstacles-to-peace/

On 9/2/2025 at 7:39 PM, Evil Penevil said:

If you visit the official Web site of the IAGS (https://genocidescholars.org/), you'll see membership is open to anyone who pays the subscription fee and self-identifies as a scholar on genocide.  Any member in good standing can propose a resolution for the members to vote on.

Back on topic

 

Actually they now need to update there website. Its open not just to scholars on Genocide but also activists.

 

 

"She added that there are few qualifications to become a member of the association. The association had been mostly made up of scholars, but now includes figures like activists and artists."

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/genocide-scholar-says-group-pushed-through-israel-condemnation-without-debate/

 

 

 

10 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Read the attached article and see for yourself:

https://honestreporting.ca/glossary/the-two-state-solution-israels-history-and-obstacles-to-peace/

Can't open link and not bother. Have checked all sources including Deepseek and confirmed no specific evidence of Hamas rejection of 2 states. 

53 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Can you come up with your own word or is it way beyond your mental abilities?

 

Is that the best rebuff you can make?

 

49 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Israel are fighting back against a  terrorist group and trying to free the hostages .

You seem to side with the terrorists baby killing war criminals Palestinians 

 

Israel is a terrorist state.  In contravention of international law it is settling the West Bank and allocating funds to support that, $100M last year IIRC.

 

It is terrorising the citizens of Gaza by shooting them when they seek food aid, destroying their habitation and infrastructure eg hospitals.

 

It meets the definition.

 

State terrorism is terrorism conducted by a state against its own citizens or another state's citizens.

 

This is not the first time I've posted this.

 

State terrorism - Wikipedia

 

 

31 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Back on topic

 

Actually they now need to update there website. Its open not just to scholars on Genocide but also activists.

 

 

"She added that there are few qualifications to become a member of the association. The association had been mostly made up of scholars, but now includes figures like activists and artists."

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/genocide-scholar-says-group-pushed-through-israel-condemnation-without-debate/

 

 

 

 

You can't seriously expect us to believe something posted by Israel's press and disputed by the organisation itself.

7 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

You can't seriously expect us to believe something posted by Israel's press and disputed by the organisation itself.

Why? What is wrong with approved links to Israeli media? Times of Israel has a higher factuality rating than many international media. Lame attempt at killing the messenger

 

It is also not disputed by the organization, where do they dispute the membership admittance?

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Why? What is wrong with approved links to Israeli media? Times of Israel has a higher factuality rating than many international media.

 

It is also not disputed by the organization, where do they dispute the membership admittance?

 

Times of Israel.  From AI, 

Fact-Checking: Known for journalistic rigor, especially in domestic Israeli affairs. However, coverage of regional conflicts may align with Israeli government narratives.

 

Regarding IAGS, Emily sample, the group's communication officer  confirmed that the association was open to non-scholars such as policymakers and civil society members who are interested in genocide, but said that, “We are not accepting large swaths of activists who are anti-Israel.”

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/genocide-scholar-says-group-pushed-through-israel-condemnation-without-debate/

13 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

You think I never read it?

 

This is the relevant part that was relevant to the post I was replying to:

 

 

 

By the way, you have broken the forum rules yet again:

 

27. You will not post any copyrighted material except as fair use laws apply (as in the case of news articles). Only post a link, the headline and three sentences from the article. Content in the public domain is limited to the same restrictions.

 

 

 

Fair enough, take the first and the last paragraphs out if it offends you that much.

9 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

Is that the best rebuff you can make?

 

 

Israel is a terrorist state.  In contravention of international law it is settling the West Bank and allocating funds to support that, $100M last year IIRC.

 

It is terrorising the citizens of Gaza by shooting them when they seek food aid, destroying their habitation and infrastructure eg hospitals.

 

It meets the definition.

 

State terrorism is terrorism conducted by a state against its own citizens or another state's citizens.

 

This is not the first time I've posted this.

 

State terrorism - WikipediaCe

 

 

You can't seriously expect us to believe something posted by Israel's press and disputed by the organisation itself.

Thanks for your principled defense of the obvious truth in the face of a firestorm of agenda-driven nonsense.

5 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Times of Israel.  From AI, 

Fact-Checking: Known for journalistic rigor, especially in domestic Israeli affairs. However, coverage of regional conflicts may align with Israeli government narratives.

Off topic deflection. This is not about the approved Times of Israel as a link, and like I said, its more factaul than many media outlets:

 

Non AI:

 

The Guardian

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-guardian/

 

Times of Israel

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/times-of-israel/

 

10 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Regarding IAGS, Emily sample, the group's communication officer  confirmed that the association was open to non-scholars such as policymakers and civil society members who are interested in genocide, but said that, “We are not accepting large swaths of activists who are anti-Israel.”

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/genocide-scholar-says-group-pushed-through-israel-condemnation-without-debate/

You claimed IAGS disputed my post, where is the link to your claim? that link agrees it does not take only scholars

 

More post containing personal attacks and general unpleasantness that are the hallmark of poor debating etiquette were removed. I've been very patient, but next up come rhe warnings and suspensions that will exclude you from posting further unpleasantness. Thank you. 

26 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Why? What is wrong with approved links to Israeli media? Times of Israel has a higher factuality rating than many international media. Lame attempt at killing the messenger

 

 

9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Off topic deflection. This is not about the approved Times of Israel as a link, and like I said, its more factaul than many media outlets:

 

 

I was answering your question Brian.

1 hour ago, ezzra said:

Many here are disgrace to this publication, with their myopic and selective vision by completely ignoring other place in the world where in places like the Sudan, where hundreds of thousands Muslim's!!! are starved, murdered and driven out of their home by MUSLIM militia, and yet, no one in the world gives a sh#t, why? no jews there, to make the issue 'juicy' enough to solicits billions in donations that goes to Hamas and middlemen, or a misguided lunatic Greta, to organize a flotilla to Sudan because it's 'in-land,

10 days ago, I put it to the readers of these pages, no one replied except one' who quipped: well, those militias don't get aid from the US, Israel does, Good reply, right?

Could the war in Sudan be due to Israel?

 

 

3 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

 

I was answering your question Brian.

Where is the answer?

14 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

 

 

 

You claimed IAGS disputed my post, where is the link to your claim? that link agrees it does not take only scholars

 

 

2 hours ago, ezzra said:

No, but your comment a blasphemous towards jews, which is way past being an antisemite, relentlessly going about the worn-out BS of Genocide, starvation, cruelty, Blah, Blah, Blah, come up with new accusation, you're boring us already.

Simple question- does Israel want peace?
 

I say most definitely not.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, ezzra said:

Many here are disgrace to this publication, with their myopic and selective vision by completely ignoring other place in the world where in places like the Sudan, where hundreds of thousands Muslim's!!! are starved, murdered and driven out of their home by MUSLIM militia, and yet, no one in the world gives a sh#t, why? no jews there, to make the issue 'juicy' enough to solicits billions in donations that goes to Hamas and middlemen, or a misguided lunatic Greta, to organize a flotilla to Sudan because it's 'in-land,

10 days ago, I put it to the readers of these pages, no one replied except one' who quipped: well, those militias don't get aid from the US, Israel does, Good reply, right?

Apart from the whataboutary,,nothing that is happening in Sudan excuses what Israel is doing in Gaza..

 

1 minute ago, JimCM said:

Could the war in Sudan be due to Israel?

 

 

Yes must be, and hey, tell all your buddies there that there's a bunch of Israelis tourists, most of them soldiers on a holiday

staying in Soi 6 Pattaya and to grab their Hamas flags and go kick some heads there.

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Where is the answer?

 

 

 

Why? What is wrong with approved links to Israeli media?