8 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

When I worked in the Middle East a local told me that their mission was to take over the world by agreement or force if necessary. That is what we are starting to see in the West.

I once met a guy in a bar who told me it was their mission to take over Soi Cowboy by agreement or the sheer power of his wallet. 
 

I wonder how he got on. 

57 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

..but you can?

You are more than welcome to debate my facts. I stand by them. 

1 minute ago, johnnybangkok said:

I once met a guy in a bar who told me it was their mission to take over Soi Cowboy by agreement or the sheer power of his wallet. 
 

I wonder how he got on. 

 

Two lady drinks would put paid to that idea.

17 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

 

Brits on the other hand prefer to stick to the treaties they’ve signed up for. 

 

 

Not the Treaty of Accession of 1972, I noticed.

 

So when UK politicians want, they can not stick to a treaty.

And another video from GB News of a camp you wont see on the BBC or ITV. If it wasn't for GB News we would not see what is awaiting us once these hit the Chennel from France.

 

 

 

 

 

9 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

You are more than welcome to debate my facts. I stand by them. 

I know. There is a huge community of conspiracy on AN

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

 

Not the Treat of Accession of 1972, I noticed.

 

So when UK politicians want, they can not stick to a treaty.

It was replaced by the EU Withdrawal Act 2018. 
The Brexit act. 

3 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

It was replaced by the EU Withdrawal Act 2018. 
The Brexit act. 

 

Yes, because politicians decided they didn't want to stick to the Treaty of Accession anymore or the Treaty of Rome.

 

So UK politicians have no problem to not stick to a treaty when they don't want to.

35 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

Cherry pick away. 

 

Yes, she did the honorable thing and resigned. Doesn't make the government 'fascist, anti semetic (sic), fraudulent sex pest MPs of the current Nazi anti free speech government currently in power'.

 

You constantly spout complete bo!!ox with little to no facts to back up any of your assertions. Typical far-right extremist with no powers of debate.

Don't bother replying, I'm done with you. 

Dan norris sex pest and although not an MP now because he was suspended, just wonder how many more there are...and as for 3 house Rayner the tax dodger, she should be arrested,. prosecuted and imprisoned...I'm.sure you don't want to reply, cos you know you have been outed in what you support 

20 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Storm in a teacup......you'd have to go out of your way to find any protests.

 

 

You could walk around London all day, day after day,  for weeks and never see a protest.

 

 

 

 

True. However, I am in the UK now on a visit and what I am seeing a lot of everywhere is the English flag tied to lamp posts and hanging out of people's windows. 

Taking the U3 bus through estates with a high migrant presence , this surprised me. No attempt by anyone to remove the flags or have a counter flag campaign 

My friends tell me this is common now in urban places. Once you get out into the countryside , there are no more flags.

So, few street protests but a lot of passive protest. Talking to people the gist of the issue is not one of race or religion but rather an objection to an increasing number of opportunistic freeloaders and bludgers. As someone said, if it is so dangerous where these people are fleeing from how come the women aren't fleeing too in equal numbers as the men?

 

Once out in the country though , it is not a burning issue and It seems to be the case that out of sight us out of mind.

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes, because politicians decided they didn't want to stick to the Treaty of Accession anymore or the Treaty of Rome.

 

So UK politicians have no problem to not stick to a treaty when they don't want to.

That's not what happens at all. Please stop with this sort of nonsense.

They stuck with their treaties UNTIL a new one was implemented. This took a formal notice of withdrawal and a new treaty voted in by parliament. This is completely unlike what Trump is doing who is still under his treaties but completely ignores them, doesn't even try to get a new treaty put in place and NEVER runs anything past congress these days.

Just now, trucking said:

 

True. However, I am in the UK now on a visit and what I am seeing a lot of everywhere is the English flag tied to lamp posts and hanging out of people's windows. 

Taking the U3 bus through estates with a high migrant presence , this surprised me. No attempt by anyone to remove the flags or have a counter flag campaign 

My friends tell me this is common now in urban places. Once you get out into the countryside , there are no more flags.

So, few street protests but a lot of passive protest. Talking to people the gist of the issue is not one of race or religion but rather an objection to an increasing number of opportunistic freeloaders and bludgers. As someone said, if it is so dangerous where these people are fleeing from how come the women aren't fleeing too in equal numbers as the men?

 

Once out in the country though , it is not a burning issue and It seems to be the case that out of sight us out of mind.

 

 

I think swamping the country with flags could have....kind of.....have a positive effect.

 

It could dilute or take away that racist element associated with the flags and bring them back into mainstream usage without people being fearful of the tag???????

7 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

That's not what happens at all. Please stop with this sort of nonsense.

They stuck with their treaties UNTIL a new one was implemented. This took a formal notice of withdrawal and a new treaty voted in by parliament. This is completely unlike what Trump is doing who is still under his treaties but completely ignores them, doesn't even try to get a new treaty put in place and NEVER runs anything past congress these days.

 

So, basically, if UK politicians want to solve any issue, they are not encumbered by any treaty, they can always find a way out.

 

Thus, a treaty is not the issue, it's the will of the politicians.

14 minutes ago, baansgr said:

.and as for 3 house Rayner the tax dodger, she should be arrested,. prosecuted and imprisoned...I'm.sure you don't want to reply, cos you know you have been outed in what you support 

You just had to go there.

Rayner legitimately thought because her name wasn’t on the deed of the Manchester home she shared with her now divorced hubby, she could call her Hove home her primary residence. This  'advise' didn't pan out but there's little to no evidence of a crime. Tax avoidance is legal in the UK (ask all the billionaires), tax evasion isn't so unless it is proved she purposely evaded tax, there is absolutely no chance of her being 'prosecuted and imprisoned'.

Facts. They matter. You should try them now and again.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

So, basically, if UK politicians want to solve any issue, they are not encumbered by any treaty, they can always find a way out.

 

Thus, a treaty is not the issue, it's the will of the politicians.

Exactly the opposite. They ARE encumbered by a treaty UNTIL they announce a change or a new one is implemented. What aren't you getting?

Just now, johnnybangkok said:

Exactly the opposite. They ARE encumbered by a treaty UNTIL they announce a change or a new one is implemented. What aren't you getting?

 

No they're not, they can easily get out of any treaty, as we've established.

 

They just don't do it in some cases. Because they don't have the will to do it.

People who do not live in the UK can only see whats happening in the press or MSM like Sky News the BBC or ITN news so they like Will b good only get to see what there shown or printed. What they don't see is the true picture of Migrant crossings daily the busses turning up at the Ports transporting the illegals to the hotels that are told are not being used for migrants but they do it in the early hours out of sight. Off course this isn't reported, instead they will film demonstrations. They don't film the busses or trains transporting Antifa or the other far right protesters to the hotels to cause trouble then there transported away. GB News report this and are not pressured to remove the images or spread fake news, like it or not GB News tells us and shows us the truth film doesn't lie. Action for Palastine have been deemed a terroist group and at the weekend over 600 of there supporters were arrested, will they be jailed ? but complain about the Government on social media and your locked up immediatly with your face splashed all over the TV accused of racial hatred or called a far right Thug.

21 minutes ago, trucking said:

As someone said, if it is so dangerous where these people are fleeing from how come the women aren't fleeing too in equal numbers as the men?

You’re not allowed to notice that.

 

 

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

So, basically, if UK politicians want to solve any issue, they are not encumbered by any treaty, they can always find a way out.

 

Thus, a treaty is not the issue, it's the will of the politicians.

Tell the Human rights lawyers who fight to keep illegals who the UK is trying to deport Cameroni. The law of the ECHR run from Brussels telling us in the UK who can stay or who can go.

Just now, BarraMarra said:

Tell the Human rights lawyers who fight to keep illegals who the UK is trying to deport Cameroni. The law of the ECHR run from Brussels telling us in the UK who can stay or who can go.

 

Look, you can't have your politicians sign you up to a human rights treaty and then blame lawyers or Brussels for the thing that your politicians signed you up for.

 

Don't you see how ridiculous that is?

 

Who voted for those politicians? The citizens of Brussels? I don't think so.

Reform will end the ECHR so we can deport who we deem illegal no court appeals lock them up in a security unit identify if he or she can stay with evidence to back it up and if not removed from the Country.

2 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Reform will end the ECHR so we can deport who we deem illegal no court appeals lock them up in a security unit identify if he or she can stay with evidence to back it up and if not removed from the Country.

 

That's what they said with Brexit, this and that will happen, immigration will be brought under control, UK will be sole sovereign, not Brussels.

 

Yet, years down the line and you're still moaning about Brussels.

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Look, you can't have your politicians sign you up to a human rights treaty and then blame lawyers or Brussels for the thing that your politicians signed you up for.

 

Don't you see how ridiculous that is?

 

Who voted for those politicians? The citizens of Brussels? I don't think so.

What you don't grasp Cameroni is we were lied to but its now 2025 not what happened 20 years ago. We want to see the end of the ECHR now. Starmer was a Human rights lawyer so will not abolish it Farage will.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

That's what they said with Brexit, this and that will happen, immigration will be brought under control, UK will be sole sovereign, not Brussels.

 

Yet, years down the line and you're still moaning about Brussels.

Its no good posting what we were moaning about brussels for, that was then this is now.

1 minute ago, BarraMarra said:

Its no good posting what we were moaning about brussels for, that was then this is now.

 

Isn't the ECHR just a simple excuse not to do anything? 

 

Don't you realise when the ECHR is thrown by the wayside the real hard work of deporting migrants would begin. Would police do that? Would there be a special force? Would Brits accept it? As a whole?

 

This whole thing will be a nightmare, and it needs someone to push it through, like in the US. It seems like the ECHR is just an excuse to do nothing.

35 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

You just had to go there.

Rayner legitimately thought because her name wasn’t on the deed of the Manchester home she shared with her now divorced hubby, she could call her Hove home her primary residence. This  'advise' didn't pan out but there's little to no evidence of a crime. Tax avoidance is legal in the UK (ask all the billionaires), tax evasion isn't so unless it is proved she purposely evaded tax, there is absolutely no chance of her being 'prosecuted and imprisoned'.

Facts. They matter. You should try them now and again.

And you called me thick 😊 

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Isn't the ECHR just a simple excuse not to do anything? 

 

Don't you realise when the ECHR is thrown by the wayside the real hard work of deporting migrants would begin. Would police do that? Would there be a special force? Would Brits accept it? As a whole?

 

This whole thing will be a nightmare, and it needs someone to push it through, like in the US. It seems like the ECHR is just an excuse to do nothing.

Thats for the future once we have left the ECHR how there kicked out not me. Until we see the end of this law we will still have to put up with concvicted rapists, thieves and murderers, allowed to stay in the Country under this law.

5 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Thats for the future once we have left the ECHR how there kicked out not me. Until we see the end of this law we will still have to put up with concvicted rapists, thieves and murderers, allowed to stay in the Country under this law.

 

The ECHR does not prevent deportation in all cases; rather, it provides a legal basis to challenge a deportation order only under exceptional circumstances, specifically when Article 3 (prohibiting torture and inhuman treatment) or Article 8 (protecting private and family life) would be breached. The UK is still free to set immigration policies and deport foreign nationals, especially those who commit crimes. 

 

So, whilst in very isolated cases the ECHR can stop some deportations, it is NOT, by any stretch of the imagination, the real reason mass deportations are not happening.

 

The real reason is that UK politicians do not have the will to handle this hot issue, unlike Trump.

11 minutes ago, baansgr said:

And you called me thick 😊 

Again, you are more than welcome to refute my facts.

Is an Illegal Drug dealer from Albania released from Prison and informed he will be deported back to Albania an isolated case for remaining because his Son will be impacted due his love of Chicken Nuggets ? This is what we have to put up with due to the ECHR.