26 minutes ago, novacova said:

Any level headed individual would agree.

You’ve been around long enough to know that no matter how well parenting is that there are some rotten snots that develop. This is more likely than not by all empirical evidence a social issue that lays squarely on the rhetoric coming out of the left and you damn well know it.

You answered two posts and in the last answer you contradict yourself.

 

7 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

I don't see hate speech from the right.

 

Only facts that destroy leftist ideology.

 

I understand why you wish to portray one as the other though. Lies are all you have. Oh, and violence of course.

Again, I just don't understand why you would say that. Online MAGA supporters and Trump himself use hate speech every day. Here's just one recent example:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/09/kirk-assassination-trump-response/684175/

2 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I consider myself a socialist. I promote a socialist economy over a capitalist one. I don't consider myself or any of my cohorts fascists. Socialsm is an economy. Fascism is a form of government. 

 

The type of fascism where presidents are elected by the people in free and fair democratic elections? 

 

You seem to be confusing fascists with people who won more votes than your preferred candidate.

 

Easy mistake to make. For deluded extremists. 

Just now, WDSmart said:

Again, I just don't understand why you would say that. Online MAGA supporters and Trump himself use hate speech every day. Here's just one recent example:
Trump’s Dangerous Response to the Kirk Assassination - The Atlantic

 

You confuse hate speech with speech you hate.

 

There is a huge difference. 

9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Being raised as a gun hugger by a couple of MAGA cultists has nothing to do with him turning into a killer?

 

Shame on you.

 

They already lost their son to the left and now you say this? 

 

Online rhetoric from your ilk is what made him extreme.

What can be less "anti-fascist" than shooting someone because they dont' agree with you?

 

How ironic that this  ANTIFA lunatic thought Charlie Kirk was filled with hatred, when he, the killer, was filled with far more hatred than Charlie Kirk, who never killed anyone, ever was.

23 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Being raised as a gun hugger by a couple of MAGA cultists has nothing to do with him turning into a killer?

Utah. Hunting country and Red. You're comment is ridiculous. Reality is the right is armed but they aren't going out assasinating people. This young man was not "MAGA cult" a term so many on here like to tag anyone who voted for Trump. Trump is Hitler, Trump is a fascist, democracy is under threat, Trump is an authoritarian etc. This is the hate rhetoric you support.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

Why are you posting false propaganda? It is firmly established that the killer was an ultra-leftist anti-fascist.

The only thing that's established around here is that you're a hysterical and disturbed individual who promotes hate and violence against anyone that doesn't agree with you.

There's a reason all law and order based societies have moved away from street justice are screeching harpies like you. If you'd had your way mobs would be running around killing trans persons and anyone suspected of being part of ANTIFA.

You're part of the problem, not the solution. Now run along and continue the impossible task of removing all that egg off your red face.

1 minute ago, BLMFem said:

The only thing that's established around here is that you're a hysterical and disturbed individual who promotes hate and violence against anyone that doesn't agree with you.

There's a reason all law and order based societies have moved away from street justice are screeching harpies like you. If you'd had your way mobs would be running around killing trans persons and anyone suspected of being part of ANTIFA.

You're part of the problem, not the solution. Now run along and continue the impossible task of removing all that egg off your red face.

 

Lol, this from a self-confessed leftist extremist, the camp from which a murderous killer just snubbed out a bright life and father of two.

 

Disgraceful lies. 

 

It is well established that Tylor Robinson was a radicalised leftist. 

 

Tyler Robinson, the suspect in Charlie Kirk’s murder, was radicalized “in a fairly short amount of time,” Utah Gov. Spencer Cox said, but gave no details.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-death-09-12-25

 

His bullets with their anti-fascist messages and ANTIFA symbols, are evidence you can't wish away, BLM, sorry to say.

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

UTah governor Spencer Cox knows something but he's not revealing it, for fear it will cause a civil war. He has hinted it though:

 

"Tyler Robinson, the suspect in Charlie Kirk’s murder, was radicalized “in a fairly short amount of time,” Utah Gov. Spencer Cox said, but gave no details."

 

There you have it, the authorities know Tylor Robinson was a leftist radical.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-death-09-12-25

 

Yeah I thought this for a while.

 

They identified him very quickly. The cctv pictures were very clear but they only released ones of the side or back of his head. Nothing clear. They already knew who he was. They didn't need the publics help. 

 

The delay announcing his identity was to allow time to clean up his social media profile. 

3 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

The only thing that's established around here is that you're a hysterical and disturbed individual who promotes hate and violence against anyone that doesn't agree with you.

There's a reason all law and order based societies have moved away from street justice are screeching harpies like you. If you'd had your way mobs would be running around killing trans persons and anyone suspected of being part of ANTIFA.

You're part of the problem, not the solution. Now run along and continue the impossible task of removing all that egg off your red face.

 

Should you be filming your TikTok celebration video about the murder of the father of two for having different opinions to you? 

Just now, BLMFem said:

The point being? No one gives a frack what Hitler considered himself to be. He started a word war and killed millions of people in extermination camps. That's all anyone needs to know.

The point being he shared the same ideology as you and the person who killed Charlie Kirk.

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

 

Yeah I thought this for a while.

 

They identified him very quickly. The cctv pictures were very clear but they only released ones of the side or back of his head. Nothing clear. They already knew who he was. They didn't need the publics help. 

 

The delay announcing his identity was to allow time to clean up his social media profile. 

 

The governor of Utah saying that Tylor Robinson was "radicalised in a short time" means that he knows more about the motive of Robinson than he's telling us.

 

The governor is terrified of a civil war being unleashed, so they're keeping the real details from us.

 

For instance, what leftist message was written on the bullet that actually killed Charlie? The killer wrote ANTIFA messages on all his bullets. So what was written on the one that killed Charlie? They are not saying, so as not to cause a civil war.

 

They know about the motive of Robinson. If there was an LGBT angle, they wouldn't say so, to protect this community.

22 minutes ago, jvs said:

You answered two posts and in the last answer you contradict yourself.

 

Your reading comprehension is definitely challenged.

Just now, JonnyF said:

 

Come on post it. 

 

We'd love to see it.

Didn't know you had these urges, Jonny. Does your family know?😄

10 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Yeah I thought this for a while.

 

They identified him very quickly. The cctv pictures were very clear but they only released ones of the side or back of his head. Nothing clear. They already knew who he was. They didn't need the publics help. 

 

The delay announcing his identity was to allow time to clean up his social media profile. 

Here we go, straight to conspiracy theories. Sooooo predictable.

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

The governor of Utah saying that Tylor Robinson was "radicalised in a short time" means that he knows more about the motive of Robinson than he's telling us.

 

The governor is terrified of a civil war being unleashed, so they're keeping the real details from us.

 

For instance, what leftist message was written on the bullet that actually killed Charlie? The killer wrote ANTIFA messages on all his bullets. So what was written on the one that killed Charlie? They are not saying, so as not to cause a civil war.

 

They know about the motive of Robinson. If there was an LGBT angle, they wouldn't say so, to protect this community.

 

That's why they leaned on the WSJ (amongst others) to retract the info about the trans messages. 

 

They released too much details.

 

They are terrified of the reaction if they tell the truth. 

The funny thing is that all of us are doing what Charlie championed: dialogue between all sides. 

 

Charlie maintained that silence is destructive to a marriage,  a church, and to a nation. He said that when you stop talking it becomes easier to dehumanize the other side and easier for violence to occur.

 

So, I would like to thank those of you on the left who have engaged us. By doing so, you honor Charlie Kirk.

2 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Didn't know you had these urges, Jonny. Does your family know?😄

 

My family knows I detest leftist filth who laugh at and celebrate the murder of young fathers, yes. 

 

They detest them too. 

He's gone @JonnyF. Move on...

5 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

That's why they leaned on the WSJ (amongst others) to retract the info about the trans messages. 

 

They released too much details.

 

They are terrified of the reaction if they tell the truth. 

 

Exactly right, the politicians are terrified this will slip away from them and a real period of civil unrest can be unleashed, just like the one after that cop choked that porn actor and fraudster to death. But from the right this time.

 

They know a lot more than they are telling us.

 

A firm motive is yet to be established, but Robinson’s family told police the suspect had become ‘more political’ in recent years. Engravings on one bullet found by the dumped rifle referred to the anti-fascist movement Antifa.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15093659/Charlie-Kirk-Donald-Trump.html

 

34 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Again, I just don't understand why you would say that. Online MAGA supporters and Trump himself use hate speech every day. Here's just one recent example:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/09/kirk-assassination-trump-response/684175/

Great source. Far left. How about posting some of this "hate speech".

40 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

UTah governor Spencer Cox knows something but he's not revealing it, for fear it will cause a civil war. He has hinted it though:

 

"Tyler Robinson, the suspect in Charlie Kirk’s murder, was radicalized “in a fairly short amount of time,” Utah Gov. Spencer Cox said, but gave no details."

 

There you have it, the authorities know Tylor Robinson was a leftist radical.

There you have it? There you have it? Where does it say anywhere in the quote by the Governor the killer was a leftist radical? You added the word leftist yourself from your own twisted ideology. All radicals are not leftist. Here's a list of a few of Americas radicals to remind ya! Timothy McVeigh, Anwar al-Awlaki, Eric Rudolph, Dylann Roof and Omar Mateen.

4 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

Where does it say anywhere in the quote by the Governor the killer was a leftist radical?

 

Are you being dense on purpose? The governor wrote that Tylor Robinson was radicalised in a short period of time. So they know how  and who radicalised him. And since he killed a far right influencer we know he wasn't radicalised from the right.

 

Since we have his anti-fascist messages on the bullets we also know that he was into ANTIFA symbols and messages, so it is very, very clear that he was radicalised by the left.

 

What kind of a stupid comment was that?

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

Are you being dense on purpose? The governor wrote that Tylor Robinson was radicalised in a short period of time. So they know how  and who radicalised him. And since he killed a far right influencer we know he wasn't radicalised from the right.

 

Since we have his anti-fascist messages on the bullets we also know that he was into ANTIFA symbols and messages, so it is very, very clear that he was radicalised by the left.

 

What kind of a stupid comment was that?

For a person walking around with such an astounding amount of egg on their face you really shouldn't post about stupid comments, okay?

15 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Great source. Far left. How about posting some of this "hate speech".

This is a bout "Media Bias." That's not the same as "Hate Speech." 

It does not matter who the shooter is. Everyone once again sees the left for what they really are. 

 

 

It's interesting that neither Tyler Robinson's family, who have.said he had become radicalized, and Utah Governor Cox, attributed this radicalization to the Left. Given that his parents are MAGA, and Cox a Republican, this omission is telling.  Here's a possible explanation that leads in a different direction.

 

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/what-is-a-groyper-and-was-tyler-robinson-a-part-of-alt-right-movement-charlie-kirk-shooting-suspect-turning-point-usa-founder-utah-valley-university-white-nationalist-christian-figure-nick-fuentes-followers-unusual-ammunition-markings-video-game-helldivers-2/articleshow/123859730.cms?from=mdr

 

 

 

39 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

The only thing that's established around here is that you're a hysterical and disturbed individual who promotes hate and violence against anyone that doesn't agree with you.

You quote the attitude from the loony "progressive" woke left very well. Well done. Dig in and accept no resposibility even though the hate rhetoric coming out of the left is well documented. This young lad obviously had some mental problems and his mind was poisoned by the hate rhetoric from the left.