The white Christian nationalist provocateur wasn’t a promoter of civil discourse. He preached hate, bigotry, and division.   For more visit : https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/charlie-kirk-assassination-maga/#

 

 

It is rude of me to say all of this, because we live in a culture where manners are often valued more than truth. That is why a slew of pundits and politicians have raced to portray Kirk’s activities, which harmed many vulnerable people, in a positive light—and to give him the benefit of the doubt that he did not grant to anyone who wasn’t white, Christian, straight, and male.

 

It’s true that we cannot know what was in Charlie Kirk’s heart, because we are not telepathic. But we can make reasonable inferences based on the things he said and did publicly because we are also not colossally stupid. He built a large following, and acquired real political power saying these things—to young people, to the president and his minions, to deep-pocket right-wing donors—and there are far too many people who have been ready to suggest that he was able to do this through a combination of natural charisma and good old-fashioned hard work.

 

If you live in a Haitian immigrant neighborhood, and if you only listened to Charlie Kirk, you might be under the impression that my neighbors eat pets. You would also be encouraged to believe that, simply by virtue of being non-white immigrants, they were “replacing” white people—and that, since they are also Black, they are dangerous. “Happening all the time in urban America,” he said, “prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact.”   This was the other side of Charlie Kirk.

Normal mourning is of course more than fine but the maga fascists are trying and possibly succeeding into making him a martyr/saint. I heard today there is talk about putting his image on a flippin' coin! I predict a big effort to make him a national holiday -- a kind of anti-MLK day. Total insanity, totally uncalled for, and totally undeserved.

2 hours ago, Jim501 said:

The white Christian nationalist provocateur wasn’t a promoter of civil discourse. He preached hate, bigotry, and division.   For more visit : https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/charlie-kirk-assassination-maga/#

 

It is rude of me to say all of this, because we live in a culture where manners are often valued more than truth. That is why a slew of pundits and politicians have raced to portray Kirk’s activities, which harmed many vulnerable people, in a positive light—and to give him the benefit of the doubt that he did not grant to anyone who wasn’t white, Christian, straight, and male.

 

It’s true that we cannot know what was in Charlie Kirk’s heart, because we are not telepathic. But we can make reasonable inferences based on the things he said and did publicly because we are also not colossally stupid. He built a large following, and acquired real political power saying these things—to young people, to the president and his minions, to deep-pocket right-wing donors—and there are far too many people who have been ready to suggest that he was able to do this through a combination of natural charisma and good old-fashioned hard work.

 

If you live in a Haitian immigrant neighborhood, and if you only listened to Charlie Kirk, you might be under the impression that my neighbors eat pets. You would also be encouraged to believe that, simply by virtue of being non-white immigrants, they were “replacing” white people—and that, since they are also Black, they are dangerous. “Happening all the time in urban America,” he said, “prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact.”   This was the other side of Charlie Kirk.

Copy and paste trash posted by a racist, probably a white guilt racist blinded by media propaganda.

I'm not interested in demonizing Kirk or seeing him as a saint, but I object very much to his tragic death being used to fuel an even more dangerous and divisive Christian white nationalist maga fascism. 

9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I'm not interested in demonizing Kirk or seeing him as a saint, but I object very much to his tragic death being used to fuel an even more dangerous and divisive Christian white nationalist maga fascism. 

When I'm having a bad day, I tune into the AN forum, find your driveling responses, and think to myself "I'm not as bad off as some people".  Then I have a cold beer and wonder why you don't seek counseling 😁

12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I'm not interested in demonizing Kirk or seeing him as a saint, but I object very much to his tragic death being used to fuel an even more dangerous and divisive Christian white nationalist maga fascism. 

Have you any idea how oxymoronic and contradictory the above statement is? 

1 minute ago, howlee101 said:

When I'm having a bad day, I tune into the AN forum, find your driveling responses, and think to myself "I'm not as bad off as some people".  Then I have a cold beer and wonder why you don't seek counseling 😁

Garbage ad hominem.

So you DO want Kirk made into a martyr/saint with a coin, national holiday, etc.?

1 minute ago, novacova said:

Have you any idea how oxymoronic and contradictory the above statement is? 

Not at all. 

It wasn't about Kirk.

It's about how evil people are USING Kirk's death.

That is DISGUSTING. 

Keep up the good work lefties.  You are doing nothing but driving more people away from the Democrats.   I applaud your efforts at division. 

18 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Christian white nationalist maga fascism.

Your oft repeated bullet point in most of your post.  Akin to the liberal MSM talking points.

 

In the 2024 presidential election, Donald Trump received approximately 77.3 million votes (49.8%), and 312 Electoral votes.

 

White Voters - 55%    
Black Voters - 15%    
Hispanic Voters - 42%    
 

White Evangelical Protestants -   85% 
White Catholics - 55%
White Mainline Protestants - 57%
Black Protestants - 17%

Hispanic Catholics - 43%
Hispanic Protestants - 63%
Jews - 21%
Religiously Unaffiliated - 25%

 

Although I highly doubt you will, you probably need to quit spouting off the obvious distortion of the truth.

We must NEVER allow MURDER to be normalized.

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Not at all. 

…yet here you are 

25 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

divisive Christian white nationalist maga fascism.

Contradictory. 

9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It's about how evil people are USING Kirk's death.

 

 

16 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Not at all. 

It wasn't about Kirk.

It's about how evil people are USING Kirk's death.

That is DISGUSTING. 

Sort of like putting the "Maryland dad" on a pedestal?

4 minutes ago, howlee101 said:

Your oft repeated bullet point in most of your post.  Akin to the liberal MSM talking points.

 

In the 2024 presidential election, Donald Trump received approximately 77.3 million votes (49.8%), and 312 Electoral votes.

 

White Voters - 55%    
Black Voters - 15%    
Hispanic Voters - 42%    
 

White Evangelical Protestants -   85% 
White Catholics - 55%
White Mainline Protestants - 57%
Black Protestants - 17%

Hispanic Catholics - 43%
Hispanic Protestants - 63%
Jews - 21%
Religiously Unaffiliated - 25%

 

Although I highly doubt you will, you probably need to quit spouting off the obvious distortion of the truth.

Your numbers prove nothing about whether the maga movement is Christian white nationalist or not.

It's bizarre that you think that they do.

Just now, howlee101 said:

Sort of like putting the "Maryland dad" on a pedestal?

It wasn't about putting him on a pedestal.

It was about not sending him to a concentration camp without due process.

DUH. 

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

It wasn't about putting him on a pedestal.

It was about not sending him to a concentration camp without due process.

DUH. 

He was an illegal alien with a deportation order...and a known MS-13 gang member.   More liberal talking points.

 

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Your numbers prove nothing about whether the maga movement is Christian white nationalist or not.

It's bizarre that you think that they do.

Numbers don't lie....unless it doesn't fit your narrative

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You come off as quite vile. 

I've been called worse.  You should reach out to my ex....she is currently in counseling. You should join her.

1 minute ago, howlee101 said:

He was an illegal alien with a deportation order...and a known MS-13 gang member.   More liberal talking points.

 

Lying by distortion.

He had an order not to deport to El Salvador.

It was never proven that he was MS-13.

He was deported against the law to a concentration camp.

Deportation is one thing. To a concentration camp is another.

 

Just now, Jingthing said:

Lying by distortion.

He had an order not to deport to El Salvador.

It was never proven that he was MS-13.

He was deported against the law to a concentration camp.

Deportation is one thing. To a concentration camp is another.

 

Just the facts:  he was in the US illegal.  Case closed

 

Just now, howlee101 said:

Just the facts:  he was in the US illegal.  Case closed

 

Not case closed at all. Stop the moronic lying. All people in the U.S. are due due process under the law. 

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Normal mourning is of course more than fine but the maga fascists are trying and possibly succeeding into making him a martyr/saint. I heard today there is talk about putting his image on a flippin' coin! I predict a big effort to make him a national holiday -- a kind of anti-MLK day. Total insanity, totally uncalled for, and totally undeserved.

 

How 'bout Trump sign an executive order making Juneteeth "Je suis Charlie" day, and paint over all those communist murals and street crossings featuring George Floyd?

28 minutes ago, howlee101 said:

Your oft repeated bullet point in most of your post.  Akin to the liberal MSM talking points.

 

In the 2024 presidential election, Donald Trump received approximately 77.3 million votes (49.8%), and 312 Electoral votes.

 

White Voters - 55%    
Black Voters - 15%    
Hispanic Voters - 42%    
 

White Evangelical Protestants -   85% 
White Catholics - 55%
White Mainline Protestants - 57%
Black Protestants - 17%

Hispanic Catholics - 43%
Hispanic Protestants - 63%
Jews - 21%
Religiously Unaffiliated - 25%

 

Although I highly doubt you will, you probably need to quit spouting off the obvious distortion of the truth.

Just to be realistic, that is water under the bridge.  I'm more interested in how people vote in the 2026 mid-term elections.  That's will be the indicator of what American think about how he and the Republicans are managing the affairs of state.

1 hour ago, Jim501 said:

The white Christian nationalist provocateur wasn’t a promoter of civil discourse. He preached hate, bigotry, and division.   For more visit : https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/charlie-kirk-assassination-maga/#

 

 

It is rude of me to say all of this, because we live in a culture where manners are often valued more than truth. That is why a slew of pundits and politicians have raced to portray Kirk’s activities, which harmed many vulnerable people, in a positive light—and to give him the benefit of the doubt that he did not grant to anyone who wasn’t white, Christian, straight, and male.

 

It’s true that we cannot know what was in Charlie Kirk’s heart, because we are not telepathic. But we can make reasonable inferences based on the things he said and did publicly because we are also not colossally stupid. He built a large following, and acquired real political power saying these things—to young people, to the president and his minions, to deep-pocket right-wing donors—and there are far too many people who have been ready to suggest that he was able to do this through a combination of natural charisma and good old-fashioned hard work.

 

If you live in a Haitian immigrant neighborhood, and if you only listened to Charlie Kirk, you might be under the impression that my neighbors eat pets. You would also be encouraged to believe that, simply by virtue of being non-white immigrants, they were “replacing” white people—and that, since they are also Black, they are dangerous. “Happening all the time in urban America,” he said, “prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact.”   This was the other side of Charlie Kirk.

 

Another one who has never actually listened to anything Charlie Kirk actually said, but has to be told what to think about him from out of context quotes provided by leftist media who also probably never listened to him speak, but got their out of context quotes from someone higher up in the leftist narrative food chain.  You might as well be an NPC if you don't have any opinions of your own, and just offer the same regurgitated tosh copied and pasted from your leftist media sources.   

 

Isn't it tiring to be so hateful?  Let the guy rest in peace.  

A few bickering comments removed.  Come on folks.  Do your best to keep it civil.  Thank you!  ❤️

29 minutes ago, howlee101 said:

Numbers don't lie....unless it doesn't fit your narrative

Having a number in your username seems to contradict your post here.
Looks like numbers can lie — at least when you use them.

54 minutes ago, howlee101 said:

When I'm having a bad day, I tune into the AN forum, find your driveling responses, and think to myself "I'm not as bad off as some people".  Then I have a cold beer and wonder why you don't seek counseling 😁

One could make a drinking game out of it.   Every time JT pounds out “MAGA Facist” on his keyboard with his greasy Doritos covered fingers….take a drink!

5 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

Another one who has never actually listened to anything Charlie Kirk actually said, but has to be told what to think about him from out of context quotes provided by leftist media who also probably never listened to him speak, but got their out of context quotes from someone higher up in the leftist narrative food chain.  You might as well be an NPC if you don't have any opinions of your own, and just offer the same regurgitated tosh copied and pasted from your leftist media sources.   

 

Isn't it tiring to be so hateful?  Let the guy rest in peace.  

The extremist right wing people exploiting his violent death to further their political goals don't care about him resting in peace. It's too late for such pablum. 

9 minutes ago, connda said:

Just to be realistic, that is water under the bridge.  I'm more interested in how people vote in the 2026 mid-term elections.  That's will be the indicator of what American think about how he and the Republicans are managing the affairs of state.

My post was to counter the "dangerous and divisive Christian white nationalist maga fascism" post from JT.

1 hour ago, novacova said:

Copy and paste trash posted by a racist, probably a white guilt racist blinded by media propaganda.

Yeah, they remind me of folks trying to clear a flood with a tablespoon.

 

We are not all Charlie though. He would still be talking to these loons trying to change their murderous hate ridden hearts.

 

I wonder if folks start shooting trans and LGBTQ=]?? activists will the media talk about justification LOL.