1 hour ago, transam said:

...?   🤣

King of the girlie bars............🥵

Gee Trans, King? 
I am popular but King might be a stretch.

Thanks anyway

59 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

 

Women maybe, but young girls are only after the old git's wallet, they are probably good at acting though, a lot of them deserve as Oscar. 

 

They probably get a standing ovation from the old git though. 😃

Might be so, but they are not asking for much.

They are really good value when you work it out as long as you don’t buy a house etc

 

12 hours ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

Try taking the money away and see what happens.

 

I have never seen a very young good looking woman married/partner to an old bloke who is poor.

 

But so what? If it's a mutually agreed upon arrangement, then both parties are getting what they want.

 

Women interested in older men for money isn't the problem.

 

The problem is if she starts to backstab the guy, scheming to extricate herself once she has extracted the resources she wants. That's betrayal. And that's the only issue and that's the reason men need to be cautious with much younger women. 

 

Otherwise, so what? There are plenty of women the same age as you that will also make financial demands. It's not just younger women making the demands, although they may expect more and more likely to betray you and try to extricate themselves. That's the problem. 

 

 

Always remember, a fool and his money is easily parted, either in Thailand or anywhere else in this World as far as women are concerned.

1 hour ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

 

Women maybe, but young girls are only after the old git's wallet, they are probably good at acting though, a lot of them deserve as Oscar. 

 

They probably get a standing ovation from the old git though. 😃

Are you claiming that women don’t want younger men’s money either?

2 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Gee Trans, King? 
I am popular but King might be a stretch.

Thanks anyway

Please don't chop up my posts to suit your agenda.......😒

 

 

Karaoke singer would be immediate grounds for divorce....end of.

20 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

But so what? If it's a mutually agreed upon arrangement, then both parties are getting what they want.

 

Women interested in older men for money isn't the problem.

 

The problem is if she starts to backstab the guy, scheming to extricate herself once she has extracted the resources she wants. That's betrayal. And that's the only issue and that's the reason men need to be cautious with much younger women. 

 

Otherwise, so what? There are plenty of women the same age as you that will also make financial demands. It's not just younger women making the demands, although they may expect more and more likely to betray you and try to extricate themselves. That's the problem. 

 

 

 

I see so the young woman sells herself to an old bloke but yet she is honest, moral and has struck a deal with the old bloke to be faithful and be only with him.

 

First off I doubt very much if such a girl is honest, if she can sell herself then she can do anything.

 

But the old guys will keep on dreaming and assuming their young girl is special and different from the other hookers, cos she said so.

 

I do laugh when eventually the old guys are ripped off though. 

 

What I do not understand is if these guys only want sex with a young girl why do they hire them full time, why not pick and choose different girls and pay as they go, that would be far less risky re losing the shirts on their back. 

 

I would feel embarrassed walking down the street with a girl young enough to be my daughter with everyone one sniggering behind my back, including the young girl. 

20 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Are you claiming that women don’t want younger men’s money either?

 

A hooker wants everyone's money no matter what age. 

 

Normal women generally have a job and have their own money and work together with their partner financially and are in a mutual relationship.

 

That is how it generally works in my experience of my relationships and the people around me. 

 

It is not normal for a very young woman to fancy an old bloke anywhere in the world so we know they are with them for the money, that is simple to understand.

 

But some guys are dim and can not see it.

 

 

 

11 hours ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

First off I doubt very much if such a girl is honest, if she can sell herself then she can do anything.

 

Guys who bash these sugar daddy arrangements AND who bash the whole hooker scene make false assumptions about society.

 

The false assumptions are that "all women have a choice and have infinite options".

 

I spoke to a woman doing massage. Her husband was a lazy drunk who didn't hold a job. So she extricated herself, despite having children to raise. And in her mind, giving massage has more integrity than being with a parasitic husband who wasn't supporting the family. And clearly, there wasn't an abundant infinite supply of hard-working men who would help support her family available. So she chose "the lesser of 2 evils" in her mind. Giving massages for money put her children through school.

 

A young attractive girl decides to go down the path of older farang sugar daddy. Well, we don't have a crystal ball, do we? But maybe we can assume that 50% of them would end up with a deadbeat drunk parasitic husband and struggle to support their kids. Or maybe she could have chosen a better path with a young Thai guy who pulls his weight ... but it's a gamble. 

 

Only Westerners born into affluent societies with a silver spoon don't seem to get how things work. 

 

Thais barely seem to bat an eyelid in the brothel areas. They are pragmatic. They realize money is flowing in at least. Which is better than no money. 

 

 

 

 

20 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Always remember, a fool and his money is easily parted, either in Thailand or anywhere else in this World as far as women are concerned.

 

It is a pity you have such a low view of women.

 

I feel sorry for you, it must be a reflection on your own personal experiences.

 

Don't  you realise your comment encapsulates your mother, sisters, nieces, aunties etc, what a sad way to look at the world. 

6 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

Normal women generally have a job and have their own money and work together with their partner financially and are in a mutual relationship.

 

Blessed are those who live in fantasyland.

4 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

 

It is a pity you have such a low view of women.

 

I feel sorry for you, it must be a reflection on your own personal experiences.

 

Don't  you realise your comment encapsulates your mother, sisters, nieces, aunties etc, what a sad way to look at the world. 

 

You can live in your dreamworld and I'll live in mine, but thanks for your concern.

2 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Guys who bash these sugar daddy arrangements AND who bash the whole hooker scene make false assumptions about society.

 

The false assumptions are that "all women have a choice and have infinite options".

 

I spoke to a woman doing massage. Her husband was a lazy drunk who didn't hold a job. So she extricated herself, despite having children to raise. And in her mind, giving massage has more integrity than being with a parasitic husband who wasn't supporting the family. And clearly, there wasn't an abundant infinite supply of hard-working men who would help support her family available. So she chose "the lesser of 2 evils" in her mind. Giving massages for money put her children through school.

 

A young attractive girl decides to go down the path of older farang sugar daddy. Well, we don't have a crystal ball, do we? But maybe we can assume that 50% of them would end up with a deadbeat drunk parasitic husband and struggle to support their kids. Or maybe she could have chosen a better path with a young Thai guy who pulls his weight ... but it's a gamble. 

 

Only Westerners born into affluent societies with a silver spoon don't seem to get how things work. 

 

Thais barely seem to bat an eyelid in the brothel areas. They are pragmatic. They realize money is flowing in at least. Which is better than no money. 

 

 

 

 

 

One percent of women sell themselves in Thailand, that is similar percentage to most countries in the world.

 

The other women who are from the background or situation you described they work, they would never dream of working in the sex trade.

 

I am not talking of massage in general as working in tradition Thai massage (not the sex shops) is perfectly acceptable.

 

I see you have fallen for the poor girl sob stories as many foolish farangs do.

 

Standard Thais hate bar girls etc, they give the rest of Thailand a bad name.

 

I am asked many times by standard Thai women, why do farangs go for bar girls, can they not find other girls.

 

My answer is always, no they can not. 

 

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Blessed are those who live in fantasyland.

 

Stupid are those who only live in bar girl land. 😃

2 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

You can live in your dreamworld and I'll live in mine, but thanks for your concern.

 

In that case in your dreamworld the female members of your family are included in your idea of women.

 

What a way to think of your mother for example, terrible.

 

I am not saying that but you are due to your attitude to all women.

 

3 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

One percent of women sell themselves in Thailand, that is similar percentage to most countries in the world.

 

 

Actually it's 98% in Thailand and 92% in the UK and other countries. 

 

Because of course all relationships are transactional, barring very few exceptions.

 

It's just a question of how shameless the shakedown is, and how skilled the woman can perpetuate the love fantasy.

 

A woman who is being maintained over 20 years by her financially well off husband, who pays her mortgage, food, clothes, present, her children, her holidays, etc is every bit in a transactional relationship. Just like the guy going with bargirls, except the bargirls are more honest and the man has more freedom.

 

You're living in a real fantasy if you think your LTR with a woman is not a transactional relationship. It is.

 

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

Actually it's 98% in Thailand and 92% in the UK and other countries. 

 

Because of course all relationships are transactional, barring very few exceptions.

 

It's just a question of how shameless the shakedown is, and how skilled the woman can perpetuate the love fantasy.

 

A woman who is being maintained over 20 years by her financially well off husband, who pays her mortgage, food, clothes, present, her children, her holidays, etc is every bit in a transactional relationship. Just like the guy going with bargirls, except the bargirls are more honest and the man has more freedom.

 

You're living in a real fantasy if you think your LTR with a woman is not a transactional relationship. It is.

 

 

I will just laugh as you are quite clearly mad.

 

Most women in the two countries mentioned work.

 

Do not judge the world by your own experience of women.

 

But carry on with that attitude and you may convince yourself that your personal experience of only being able to get a woman is by paying for her and you will be happy.

 

Good luck. 😃

10 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

 

In that case in your dreamworld the female members of your family are included in your idea of women.

 

What a way to think of your mother for example, terrible.

 

I am not saying that but you are due to your attitude to all women.

 

 

You really think that any women given a choice of starving to death, and allowing their offspring to go the same way would not resort to prostitution or doing anything to stay alive?

That is why the oldest profession in this world is prostitution, like it or not, simple question for any female, would you rather be F****d or killed?

3 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

You really think that any women given a choice of starving to death, and allowing their offspring to go the same way would not resort to prostitution or doing anything to stay alive?

That is why the oldest profession in this world is prostitution, like it or not, simple question for any female, would you rather be F****d or killed?

 

They pray on gullible people who will follow their sob stories and it works, I have seen it so many times.

 

I see it has worked on you as well.

 

I had a friend who had a restaurant in Phuket for twenty years, he had friends who owned girly bars and would tell this friend of the goings on at those bars. 

 

The girls who 95% are from Issan (according to the bar owners) tell the idiot blokes they are poor and have to feed mamma and papa and the sick buffalo and do not want to do this job but they are forced to. There are lots of vacancies for standard jobs in places like Phuket but that would mean working for a living.

 

The guys fall for it and send them money on a monthly basis.

 

It is like having a Time Share for the guys but instead of a holiday home they have a holiday whore for a couple of weeks a year. 

 

The bar girls have a few of these guys doing the same thing and are proud of it and show off with a feeling of pride.

 

So funny.

30 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

Most women in the two countries mentioned work.

 

I think you live under the misperception that a woman who works cannot also receive payments from a male.

 

I myself have subsidized my own mother when she was working to the tune of 1000 USD a month for over a decade.

 

This is what happens as a matter of course, women who work will receive additional monies from boyfriends or sons.

 

If it is a boyfriend, husband or such, then the financial transfer is generally much more significant, as the boyfriend or husband will generally pay rent, food, insurance, presents, children, holidays etc.

 

Just because a woman works, does not mean she is not being paid by a male. Leaving aside the millions of women who do not in fact work in Benefits Britain and in Thailand, where they depend on relatives.

 

30 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

you are quite clearly mad.

 

Actually, you are far closer to mental illness because you live in a world of delusion. You think that paying for your gf/wife for years does not mean you are in a transactional relationship. Of course you are.

 

30 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

that your personal experience of only being able to get a woman is by paying for her

 

That's not my personal experience, that's your experience, without you paying for your gf/wife, you would not have her, and in fact it's the same experience for every male in the world.

 

You're deluding yourself and you live in a world of fantasy, James.

2 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

 

They pray on gullible people who will follow their sob stories and it works, I have seen it so many times.

 

I see it has worked on you as well.

 

I had a friend who had a restaurant in Phuket for twenty years, he had friends who owned girly bars and would tell this friend of the goings on at those bars. 

 

The girls who 95% are from Issan (according to the bar owners) tell the idiot blokes they are poor and have to feed mamma and papa and the sick buffalo and do not want to do this job but they are forced to. There are lots of vacancies for standard jobs in places like Phuket but that would mean working for a living.

 

The guys fall for it and send them money on a monthly basis.

 

It is like having a Time Share for the guys but instead of a holiday home they have a holiday whore for a couple of weeks a year. 

 

The bar girls have a few of these guys doing the same thing and are proud of it and show off with a feeling of pride.

 

So funny.

 

What has any of this got to do with the point I made about prostitution being the oldest profession?

Working females have always existed, like it or not, I know many here and back in Europe who willingly work in this trade and make plenty of income, you going on some moral crusade about it, is irrelevant to them as well as to me, it will, IMHO always be so, everybody has a choice.

Granted there are some who do it to feed drug habits, keep men they supposably love in funds for them to use on other nefarious habits, but that is their choice. 

11 hours ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

There are lots of vacancies for standard jobs in places like Phuket but that would mean working for a living.

 

Since the tourist zones are either bars or restaurants, working in a restaurant is a low paying job. 

Barely enough to support children unless there is a husband also working. Many of these girls are divorced.

 

But of course the girls are abusing the situation by having a bunch of different guys sending them money from abroad. 

 

 

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

I spoke to a woman doing massage. Her husband was a lazy drunk who didn't hold a job. So she extricated herself, despite having children to raise. And in her mind, giving massage has more integrity than being with a parasitic husband who wasn't supporting the family.

It sounds like she was only after her husband for his money.

When he didn’t have any she broke her marriage vows.

If she married him for love she would have stayed.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I think you live under the misperception that a woman who works cannot also receive payments from a male.

 

I myself have subsidized my own mother when she was working to the tune of 1000 USD a month for over a decade.

 

This is what happens as a matter of course, women who work will receive additional monies from boyfriends or sons.

 

If it is a boyfriend, husband or such, then the financial transfer is generally much more significant, as the boyfriend or husband will generally pay rent, food, insurance, presents, children, holidays etc.

 

Just because a woman works, does not mean she is not being paid by a male. Leaving aside the millions of women who do not in fact work in Benefits Britain and in Thailand, where they depend on relatives.

 

 

Actually, you are far closer to mental illness because you live in a world of delusion. You think that paying for your gf/wife for years does not mean you are in a transactional relationship. Of course you are.

 

 

That's not my personal experience, that's your experience, without you paying for your gf/wife, you would not have her, and in fact it's the same experience for every male in the world.

 

You're deluding yourself and you live in a world of fantasy, James.

 

I can only go on what I experience.

 

My mother and father worked and so my brother and sister, they paid together.

 

Most of my friends have wives etc who work and pay their way.

 

I do not mix with the farangs with young paid for women, I avoid them.

 

My wife before divorce worked all of her life, she had her own business, we paid together.

 

My current long time partner owns nine houses, she bought them from the proceeds of her own work in her business, she has rental income monthly.

 

I own rental property in the UK and I get a pension, we pay our way together.

 

I do see some farangs in Thailand who have paid and are paying for Thai women, they mix with other who are doing the same and think it is the norm and so have a false view of the country. 

 

 

14 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Actually, you are far closer to mental illness because you live in a world of delusion. You think that paying for your gf/wife for years does not mean you are in a transactional relationship. Of course you are.

 

Like the massage lady, if he had no money she would be out looking for one that did.

6 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

Most of my friends have wives etc who work and pay their way.

 

They don't of course. It's almost certain these wives too will be heavily financially subsidized by their husbands.  Just like yours, James.

 

6 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

My wife before divorce worked all of her life, she had her own business, we paid together.

 

Yes, I know your wife worked. But if you were to be honest, you would say there is no way in hell you could claim you never paid for her. Of course you did.

 

Again, just because she works does not mean a male, in this case you James, is not subsidizing her.

 

6 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

, she bought them from the proceeds of her own work

 

And being subsidized by men, including you of course.

 

6 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

we pay our way together.

 

Translation: You have paid her expenses. Starting to be less delusional and more honest, good job James.

 

6 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

I do see some farangs in Thailand who have paid and are paying for Thai women,

 

Well, you are paying for your Thai woman as well. What's the difference? Only amount and minor details.

 

6 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

they mix with other who are doing the same and think it is the norm and so have a false view of the country. 

 

Well, you are doing the same. You're paying for your Thai woman too. In fact almost all men do the same. It's you who has a false view of women, James. It is the norm that men pay for women. And that is the norm universally all across the world, bar very few exceptions.

6 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Like the massage lady, if he had no money she would be out looking for one that did.

 

Well, of course. I mean if a woman does not want something from you, why would she be in a relationship with you? She wouldn't be. She will only enter in a relationship with you if she wants something from you.

 

Granted, that may not always be money, it can be status, fame, emotional support, peace of mind, can be many things, but there is no doubt that all romantic relationships are transactional, bar very few exceptions.

37 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

What has any of this got to do with the point I made about prostitution being the oldest profession?

Working females have always existed, like it or not, I know many here and back in Europe who willingly work in this trade and make plenty of income, you going on some moral crusade about it, is irrelevant to them as well as to me, it will, IMHO always be so, everybody has a choice.

Granted there are some who do it to feed drug habits, keep men they supposably love in funds for them to use on other nefarious habits, but that is their choice. 

 

I do not have anything agains prostitutes, I just laugh at the very many guys on this blog who seem to show off they have bought a young woman.

 

I would keep such an embarrassing thing secret.

 

Any one of us could do it, nothing to be proud of.

 

Don't the old blokes know when they walked down the street strutting like a winner with the young girl on their arm,  all the other people know they are losers.

 

26 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Well, of course. I mean if a woman does not want something from you, why would she be in a relationship with you? She wouldn't be. She will only enter in a relationship with you if she wants something from you.

 

Granted, that may not always be money, it can be status, fame, emotional support, peace of mind, can be many things, but there is no doubt that all romantic relationships are transactional, bar very few exceptions.

 

Well in that case it is a mutual relationship, it may be the humour we find attractive, or shared interests, many things related to personality, sure we choose someone we get on with unless we are desperate.

 

Those are mutually beneficial feelings not financial transactions. 

 

That has nothing to do with old blokes buying young women who are with them purely and simply for money.