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Has Pollution Affected Your Health Too?

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Thailand is great, but no country is perfect. Annoyances like 90-day reporting and double prices can make us less than happy, but getting lung cancer is really serious and it headlines the news every year.

 

At only 38, my body reached it's limit for Thailand's extreme concentrations of PM2.5. 

 

A year before I became a statistic, an expat YouTuber interviewed a Scandinavian, about same age as I, how moved back to EU after starting a successful (and lucrative) business in Thailand. Why? He too reached his limit for pollution. 

 

I want to know how much of an issue this is. Have you been affected by air pollution? 

 

It took me 9 years to reach my limit. Sucks. I'm going to miss it here. 

 

BTW - this picture of trash burning isn't some hillbilly village in Issan. It's in Phuket! 

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Yes same with the Philippines 

 

I remember we used to have built in backyard incinerators when I was a kid growing up in Australia 

All the rubbish used to go into it 

 

Of course it's all banned now ,smoke everywhere blowing over neighbours washing 

 

The problems with pollution, smoking, drinking are all the same......there is no immediate impact.

 

That means 'you' don't have to do anything about them.........until, of course, it's too late.

8 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

It's only for a short time, wear a mask when bad and air filter in condo

Oh yes we can minimise the problem, only for a short time ..it's only for a short time....just wear a mask in your condo ...very good 

Not really, unless very bad, and exposed for a day or so, then may get a rough throat.  Don't live in high pollution area.  

Yes burning is a plague and will really dictate where you live. On Phuket though? I think you're being a little extreme if you find that too smokey because something may blow some times of the year. The north is engulfed in smoke for 2 months a year yet people still people manager to live into their 80s here.

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Theres so much denial about it here too. I only go to thailand during the rain season

10 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

Yes burning is a plague and will really dictate where you live. On Phuket though? I think you're being a little extreme if you find that too smokey because something may blow some times of the year. The north is engulfed in smoke for 2 months a year yet people still people manager to live into their 80s here.

It's more like 4 or 5 months of the year after you add up all the triple digit days throughout the year.  Although Jan/Feb/Mar is the worst, there are usually triple-digit days in Nov, Dec, and Apr as well.  Some years are worse than others, depending on weather and wind, but on average it seems to be getting worse every year.

 

Triple digit AQI for 24hours would be like smoking something like 2-3 cigarettes.  I think that is just if you sit still.  When you walk you breathe something like 20x more air so it's much worse.  Definitely much healthier to sit indoors with a HEPA filter on those days but that starts to affect quality of life.

I'm sure it has.  20+ years here and I seem to continually have a cough!  I feel for my kid and all the children.

I had minor acute respiratory issues living in rural coastal Australia, which have developed into seasonal chronic respiratory problems in rural coastal Thailand; all due to the air pollution situation here according to my Thai medical specialists.

1 hour ago, shdmn said:

It's more like 4 or 5 months of the year after you add up all the triple digit days throughout the year.  Although Jan/Feb/Mar is the worst, there are usually triple-digit days in Nov, Dec, and Apr as well.  Some years are worse than others, depending on weather and wind, but on average it seems to be getting worse every year.

 

Triple digit AQI for 24hours would be like smoking something like 2-3 cigarettes.  I think that is just if you sit still.  When you walk you breathe something like 20x more air so it's much worse.  Definitely much healthier to sit indoors with a HEPA filter on those days but that starts to affect quality of life.

 

I'm fine until March-April, and I mean fine as in FEEL fine, not looking at some numbers and with a label next to them.

 

I've been doing daily cycling in Chiang Mai (not the city though) in Jan/Feb for 20 years now and I don't feel anything then.  The actual city is always polluted and always disgusting but the API reports don't reveal that.

1 hour ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

I'm fine until March-April, and I mean fine as in FEEL fine, not looking at some numbers and with a label next to them.

 

I've been doing daily cycling in Chiang Mai (not the city though) in Jan/Feb for 20 years now and I don't feel anything then.  The actual city is always polluted and always disgusting but the API reports don't reveal that.

 

What is your point?  That smoking is not unhealthy because "I feel fine"? 🤦

I have to laugh at the number of people who complain about the air quality, then don't give a second thought to their next pack of cigarettes, their daily 12-pack of Chang, or boffing a bargirl bareback.
We've been living in Chiang Mai for the past 25 years, and never felt the need to 'leave' during Burning Season. If the air is bad outside, we put on a mask for the few hours we need them. Inside, the air is fine. God invented air purifiers for a reason.

34 minutes ago, shdmn said:

What is your point?  That smoking is not unhealthy because "I feel fine"? 🤦

because it's not nearly that bad and many people are being pedantic. Some fatty in Pattaya living next to a busy road inhaling fumes will tell  you they can't live in Chiang Mai because the PM2.5 in January is 100 and the color is orange and it says hazardous. Mean while I'm out biking up and down mountains and feeling great in the colder air and far away from any city pollution. 

28 minutes ago, FolkGuitar said:

I have to laugh at the number of people who complain about the air quality, then don't give a second thought to their next pack of cigarettes, their daily 12-pack of Chang, or boffing a bargirl bareback.
We've been living in Chiang Mai for the past 25 years, and never felt the need to 'leave' during Burning Season. If the air is bad outside, we put on a mask for the few hours we need them. Inside, the air is fine. God invented air purifiers for a reason.

 

I tend to agree.  There's no doubt that it's not good for our health, but neither are many other things.  If it wasn't for social media and all the new AQI apps, we'd be none the wiser.  The pollution was bad in the past too!

3 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

I tend to agree.  There's no doubt that it's not good for our health, but neither are many other things.  If it wasn't for social media and all the new AQI apps, we'd be none the wiser.  The pollution was bad in the past too!

 

people are equating numbers with names (100 = hazardous, see attachment study) with real world outcomes.  Sitting next to a camp fire is like 500 AQI but people don't freak out about that. If they never made the apps and numbers most people would be fine with January in Chiang Mai.

Been in Chiang Mai for a long time.  
March and April I leave, travel back to farangland and back around June or July.  

 

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