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Béchamp’s pleomorphic theory vs. Pasteur’s germ theory

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On 11/2/2025 at 8:48 AM, Stiddle Mump said:

Monumental humbug Sir.

 

Why do you not do a little research before posting nonsense like this?

 

No one was infected with covid. It was all made up. The virus that supposedly caused the illness has never been found or seen. And it's not likely to be either, cause it don't exist.

So what do you suggest killed the millions of people a few years back?

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Just now, Will Iam Not said:

So what do you suggest killed the millions of people a few years back?

When Sir?

 

Be more precise and I'll answer. Do you mean the 'Black Death', or 'Spanish Flu, or        'Covid-19'?

1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

When Sir?

 

Be more precise and I'll answer. Do you mean the 'Black Death', or 'Spanish Flu, or        'Covid-19'?

Covid 19 of course. 

Just now, Will Iam Not said:

Covid 19 of course. 

Were there excess deaths? There were lots of old-uns put down in care homes.

 

Just a normal few years was it not?

4 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Were there excess deaths? There were lots of old-uns put down in care homes.

 

Just a normal few years was it not?

And the many who died around the World  NOT in care homes?

Are you suggesting that those IN care homes were murdered/euthanised, or put down as you so nicely put it. I don't know as I was here in my home in P'lok. A few villagers died, but most of them were old, infirm, ill, and un-vaxed. No-one I know who was vaxed got really ill or died, both here and in UK.

5 minutes ago, Will Iam Not said:

And the many who died around the World  NOT in care homes?

Are you suggesting that those IN care homes were murdered/euthanised, or put down as you so nicely put it.

I've not seen the evidence of excess deaths anywhere.

 

And yes! I am suggesting that the old folk were being killed off. To boost the covid count and to lessen the old age pension load.

On 11/2/2025 at 8:48 AM, Stiddle Mump said:

Monumental humbug Sir.

 

Why do you not do a little research before posting nonsense like this?

 

No one was infected with covid. It was all made up. The virus that supposedly caused the illness has never been found or seen. And it's not likely to be either, cause it don't exist.

Fact Check: SARS-CoV-2 has been isolated and its complete genome has been sequenced 

An interview with a late Canadian writer has resurfaced on social media and shows him making several false claims about COVID-19. Among them, he questions the existence of coronaviruses by saying they have never been isolated. This is not true, and such a claim reveals the writer’s lack of understanding of virology.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/sars-cov-2-has-been-isolated-and-its-complete-genome-has-been-sequenced-idUSL1N2LS27P/

5 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Fact Check: SARS-CoV-2 has been isolated and its complete genome has been sequenced 

An interview with a late Canadian writer has resurfaced on social media and shows him making several false claims about COVID-19. Among them, he questions the existence of coronaviruses by saying they have never been isolated. This is not true, and such a claim reveals the writer’s lack of understanding of virology.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/sars-cov-2-has-been-isolated-and-its-complete-genome-has-been-sequenced-idUSL1N2LS27P/

It has not been isolated. It is just monumental hogwash to suggest it has been.

 

How can something that don't exist in the natural world be isolated? Let alone be shown to cause and sort of illness.

 

Virology is a nonsense.

1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

It has not been isolated. That is just monumental hogwash.

 

How can something that don't exist on the natural world be isolated? Let alone be shown to cause and sort of illness.

Yes, it would logically follow that if something doesn't exist in the natural world it can't be identified. As a logical proposition your reasoning is flawless.

As a rational proposition, it's ridiculous. 

27 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I've not seen the evidence of excess deaths anywhere.

 

And yes! I am suggesting that the old folk were being killed off. To boost the covid count and to lessen the old age pension load.

Where did you look for the evidence which you have not seen?

I am sure that SOME older, very sick older people were 'helped on their way'. But not enough to put a hole in the Pension Funds.

And now I see that the British Govt is being accused of not acting quickly enough. Does that mean they didn't knock off enough oldies?

1 minute ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Yes, it would logically follow that if something doesn't exist in the natural world it can't be identified. As a logical proposition your reasoning is flawless.

As a rational proposition, it's ridiculous. 

Why?

 

I've looked at most papers since Enders in 1954. Which is when the modern method of 'isolation' was established. Not one, has isolated a virus. All, but a handful of papers, followed Dr Enders procedures.

5 minutes ago, Will Iam Not said:

Where did you look for the evidence which you have not seen?

I am sure that SOME older, very sick older people were 'helped on their way'. But not enough to put a hole in the Pension Funds.

And now I see that the British Govt is being accused of not acting quickly enough. Does that mean they didn't knock off enough oldies?

As Boris said on air: 'If you want an extra year of life; catch covid.'

 

Average age of death due to covid was 84. Average life expectancy 83.

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Were there excess deaths? There were lots of old-uns put down in care homes.

 

No, there weren't. No one was "put down".

 

Just because mainstream does spread some bs, it doesn't justify you also spreading bs just because you want to retaliate.

 

37 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Why?

 

I've looked at most papers since Enders in 1954. Which is when the modern method of 'isolation' was established. Not one, has isolated a virus. All, but a handful of papers, followed Dr Enders procedures.

Wow. No one follows a procedure that's 70 years old. There's some might argue that a 70 year old procedure might possibly be obsolete.

From AI:

Virologists have developed and adopted sophisticated cell culture and molecular techniques that have superseded the original, foundational methods used by John F. Enders and his colleagues in the mid-20th century [1]. The evolution of these methodologies, including modern molecular biology techniques and advanced imaging, allows for more precise and accurate virus isolation, identification, and characterization than previously possible [1].
Modern virology practices follow rigorous, internationally recognized procedures designed to confirm the isolation and replication of viruses. These often involve:
  • Cell culture: Growing viruses in specific cell lines to observe characteristic changes (cytopathic effects) and amplify the virus [1].
  • Molecular techniques: Using methods like polymerase chain reaction (PCR) to detect specific viral genetic material [1].
  • Imaging: Employing advanced microscopy, such as electron microscopy, to visually confirm the presence and structure of virus particles [1].
The current standard procedures for virus isolation are well-documented in scientific literature and are a cornerstone of both research and clinical diagnostics. Far from being "false," these modern claims are built upon a continually evolving scientific consensus and refined, verifiable methodologies.
46 minutes ago, Will Iam Not said:

I am sure that SOME older, very sick older people were 'helped on their way'. But not enough to put a hole in the Pension Funds.

And now I see that the British Govt is being accused of not acting quickly enough. Does that mean they didn't knock off enough oldies?

 

Nobody got "knocked off".

 

The worst thing they did was attribute deaths to Covid that were caused by other issues.

 

48 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I've looked at most papers since Enders in 1954. Which is when the modern method of 'isolation' was established. Not one, has isolated a virus. All, but a handful of papers, followed Dr Enders procedures.

 

Here, they claim to be injecting an egg with the flu virus.

And after 2 days, the eggs contains 10 billion particles of flu.

 

 

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

 

No, there weren't. No one was "put down".

 

Just because mainstream does spread some bs, it doesn't mean you should also be spreading bs to retaliate.

 

Plenty of personal experiences from mates and children.

 

https://odysee.com/@Truthspreader:3/PREMEDITATED-MASS-MURDER-OF-OLD-PEOPLE-WORLDWIDE---DAVID-TALKS-WITH-REAL-JOURNALIST-JACQUI-DEEVOY:8

 

 

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Fear!!

 

And yet, with millions of poor, sick people coughing and spluttering all over the place, they couldn't find a sample of the virus. Dear me! I know why. Cause there was no such thing as a covid virus to start with.

 

All long planned. Why? Well that's a story in itself. IMO, a step along the road of stopping the alt-west countries breaking away from the established western banking system.

 

Wow!...planned as far back as the middle ages.....the Plague, the Black Death .......as far back as the 1918 Spanish flu......now that is what I call forward planning.

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

As Boris said on air: 'If you want an extra year of life; catch covid.'

 

Average age of death due to covid was 84. Average life expectancy 83.

A perfect example of why you cannot be trusted within 10m of any mathematics, particularly statistics.  Maybe if you were more competent you could have explained the lottery to your wife.

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

 

Talks with FAKE journalist.

NOT .... real journalist.

It's bullCRAP.

Got it?

 

If you say so Sir.

 

Jacqui Deevoy is a well respected researcher and filmmaker. You are not Johnny in disguise are you?

 

Tell your story to the people who saw their loved ones disappear overnight.

26 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

You are not Johnny in disguise are you?

who? talljohnnybkk?

looks like he got tired of debating. haven't heard from him in a while now.

 

11 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

who? talljohnnybkk?

looks like he got tired of debating. haven't heard from him in a while now.

 

When you started shooting the messenger, rather than debate what the subject was, I immediately though of Johnny.

42 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

shooting the messenger

You don't seem to understand what that phrase means.  You should watch Princess Bride a few times so you understand when people tell you:

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

In this case it's your phrase I quoted.

On 11/2/2025 at 7:17 AM, Red Phoenix said:

Attached below 2 links to related threads from this sub-forum addressing the subject:

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1376991-genes-germs-and-the-myth-of-the-invisible-enemy/#comment-20176631

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1375143-vaccines-mythology-ideology-and-reality-2025/#comment-20135117

 

Quite often during discussions the 'terrain theory' is implicitly referred to.  But the subject deserves a more in-depth treatment, especially for those members not familiar with the concept behind the Terrain theory - vs the 'accepted' Germ theory.  

So I will shortly issue some articles addressing the subject.

No, it doesn't. And you can't argue with people who deny over 200 years of science. You think the applicaiton of terrain theory cured syphillis or gonorhea? Why is HIV still prevalent? It's your right to be an idiot but you should realize that every time your open your mouth, you're emitting a miasma just as bad as the diseases you're refuting.

11 hours ago, jaywalker2 said:

No, it doesn't. And you can't argue with people who deny over 200 years of science. You think the applicaiton of terrain theory cured syphillis or gonorhea? Why is HIV still prevalent? It's your right to be an idiot but you should realize that every time your open your mouth, you're emitting a miasma just as bad as the diseases you're refuting.

200 years of quackery more like.

 

Some members are so quick to speak bad of others, cause they don't understand where it's at.

 

Diseases! The body expressing its desire to get back into balance.

15 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

When you started shooting the messenger, rather than debate what the subject was, I immediately though of Johnny.

 

I posted a video of a guy in a lab injecting an egg with the flu virus.

You don't shoot the messenger. You just ignore anything that doesn't conform with your views.

 

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Louis Pasteur and his germ theory has created the biggest and most successfully profitable religious cult in the history of the world.

 

The definition of religion in the Merriam Webster dictionary is an organized set of beliefs, attitudes, and practices, whose followers have a commitment and devotion to their god that is intensely passionate.

 

The Holy Bible refers to this poisonous religion as an abomination whose members will be cursed with destruction.  

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

I posted a video of a guy in a lab injecting an egg with the flu virus.

You don't shoot the messenger. You just ignore anything that doesn't conform with your views.

 

Indeed! But you can't inject an egg with something that don't exist.

 

Can't you see that it is all total nonsense. These white-coats are just taking the $$$ and running with it. Taking most people for absolute fools. Fortunately there are some that are not so easily duped. Point me to a paper that shows that a virus - any virus - has been found.

 

Why do you think they don't do a control in these lab experiments? I'll tell you why Sir. Because it would show that the procedure would give the same results in both petri dishes; as was the case in Dr Ender's experiments back in 1954. That set the gold standard, and has been the model ever since.

23 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I've not seen the evidence of excess deaths anywhere.

 

And yes! I am suggesting that the old folk were being killed off. To boost the covid count and to lessen the old age pension load.

You really are a very sad individual...........🤔

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