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White Males and the Future of MAGA

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7 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Yep, they're not pulling the ladies these fine specimen are obviously dating!

 

 

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  • Cool story bro.  

  • Took the Evelyn Woods speed reading course, did you.   I know. Truth hurts. Truth especially hurts weak men, the kind of male women don't want (unless the customer pays for her services).

  • This is written by an old guy hating on young males. 

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Some good points. Trump tapped into the popular sentiment, people don't want to be told how to think, how to talk and how to behave, and that in and of itself is something that the Democrats have to learn. Yet to date I've seen no indication that they've expressed any interest in reform. They're talking about another run for Harris in 2028. Are they completely tone deaf? Are they completely dumb. She would be the last person in the world to consider for another run unless the Democrats are interested in long-term irrelevance. 

 

He was a terrible choice, but many believe there was no alternative. He appointed some of the least qualified department heads in the last 50 years. And Trump is so oversensitive, he's so thin skinned, he's such a petty lightweight, that he simply cannot handle an insult at all, he wilts like a wallflower and must engage in a hateful diatribe. He's very predictable in that regard. This is who and what he is. A petty bully. 

 

And he is becoming increasingly senile, and it's becoming very difficult for him to string a sentence together that is coherent. As an example:

 

"It must be because of M.I.T., my relationship with M.I.T., very smart. I say, 'What would happen if the boat sank from its weight and you're in the boat and you have this tremendously powerful battery, and the battery is now underwater, and there's a shark that's approximately 10 yards over there?" Trump said. "By the way, lot of shark attacks lately. Did you notice that?"

 

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On 11/6/2025 at 8:23 AM, Wingate said:

Trump built his brand by courting and appealing to two types of white males. Together, these two are his bread and butter---or extra crispy and fries---and propelled him to his two wins.

Monsieur Gemini agrees and elaborates:

 

Donald Trump attracts a wide range of white men, but key demographic and psychological factors include those who are working-class, less educated, and may identify with traits of authoritarianism, social dominance, or traditional masculinity. His support also includes young, often non-college educated white men who feel economically or culturally marginalized. Many supporters also express feelings of being left behind and may be driven by anxieties about societal and cultural changes, sometimes fueled by prejudice and xenophobia. 
 
Demographic and economic factors
  • Working-class and less educated: A significant portion of his support comes from white men without a college degree. Some research indicates he resonates with the working class due to his populist message about economic challenges.
  • Younger men: Young white men, particularly those without college degrees, have shown strong support, often motivated by cultural and economic factors and feeling excluded from traditional opportunities.
  • Older men: Older white voters have also shown a strong tendency to support Trump. 
 
Psychological and ideological factors
  • Authoritarianism: Some research suggests a personality trait called authoritarianism is a predictor of support, linked to a sensitivity to perceived threats to the social order.
  • Traditional masculinity: Studies have found that men who endorse traditional stereotypes of masculinity are more likely to support Trump.
  • Social and economic anxiety: Supporters sometimes cite feelings of being "left behind" economically and culturally, and some research points to fears of "demographic displacement".
  • Prejudice: Research indicates that racist and xenophobic attitudes have been significant predictors of support for Trump, sometimes even more so than economic factors. 
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4 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

Working-class and less educated: A significant portion of his support comes from white men without a college degree. Some research indicates he resonates with the working class due to his populist message about economic challenges.

 The educated people are supporting polices that are destroying the county.   Attending college does make one smart.  It’s a check box these days. 

On 11/5/2025 at 9:26 PM, Rocky Sullivan said:

 
Feeding your grandson ?

Are you still in junior high?most of your posts are on that plane of consciousness….come on ya gotta do better than that heck the rest of the trolls won’t want to hang out with you!

1 minute ago, Tug said:

Are you still in junior high?most of your posts are on that plane of consciousness….come on ya gotta do better than that heck the rest of the trolls won’t want to hang out with you!

After seeing some of your posts, you shouldn't comment on others' content.

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16 hours ago, retayl said:

Says a man who calls himself Mike_Hunt. 

This!

 

Look at my comment right before yours. The fellow you note is captured in my sentiments.

 

He's quite possibly an adult, yet he chooses a moniker that might make a 3rd Grader smile, while embarrassing anyone older. Someone with that mentality thinks he offers value to a successful adult woman? Not on this planet.

 

Many of today's males are intimidated by strong women. They benefited from a time when women and minorities were held back, because that limited true competition and let such men rise beyond their actual value.

 

No more. To succeed in business, in education, in gaining wealth, and in relationships, one had best be capable and willing to both compete and treat others as equals. No more free lunch. Pretend Alphas are so transparent, women see through them, whether "back home" or in Thailand. Women in Thailand are also on the march, gaining ground, building their skill set, optimizing whatever advantage they have. Thai women might be a few years behind western women in claiming their rightful place in society, but they are climbing fast and will be relentless. To real men, that's exciting, not intimidating.

 

I see a time in the not so distant future where western expats in Thailand start beefing about Thai women, with statements like, "It's not like the old days" and "Thai women are become too feminist".

 

That latter statement doesn't mean the women are not feminine; it means they aren't as impressed or gobsmacked anymore by some overweight, mediocre guy on a $50K/year pension who expects a "mother" to feed his every whim, pick up after him, and treat him as if he's some superior being. It's going to be relationships built on mutual respect and true equality, not a sex toy who makes the fat guy a sandwich while he's plopped on the sofa watching Premier League or NFL.

36 minutes ago, Wingate said:

This!

 

Look at my comment right before yours. The fellow you note is captured in my sentiments.

 

He's quite possibly an adult, yet he chooses a moniker that might make a 3rd Grader smile, while embarrassing anyone older. Someone with that mentality thinks he offers value to a successful adult woman? Not on this planet.

 

Many of today's males are intimidated by strong women. They benefited from a time when women and minorities were held back, because that limited true competition and let such men rise beyond their actual value.

 

No more. To succeed in business, in education, in gaining wealth, and in relationships, one had best be capable and willing to both compete and treat others as equals. No more free lunch. Pretend Alphas are so transparent, women see through them, whether "back home" or in Thailand. Women in Thailand are also on the march, gaining ground, building their skill set, optimizing whatever advantage they have. Thai women might be a few years behind western women in claiming their rightful place in society, but they are climbing fast and will be relentless. To real men, that's exciting, not intimidating.

 

I see a time in the not so distant future where western expats in Thailand start beefing about Thai women, with statements like, "It's not like the old days" and "Thai women are become too feminist".

 

That latter statement doesn't mean the women are not feminine; it means they aren't as impressed or gobsmacked anymore by some overweight, mediocre guy on a $50K/year pension who expects a "mother" to feed his every whim, pick up after him, and treat him as if he's some superior being. It's going to be relationships built on mutual respect and true equality, not a sex toy who makes the fat guy a sandwich while he's plopped on the sofa watching Premier League or NFL.

Narc

49 minutes ago, Fact said:

After seeing some of your posts, you shouldn't comment on others' content.

He's addicted to Trump just like a drug addicted is addicted to heroin. Drug addiction has a cure. No cure for narcs addicted to one eyed Trump rants. All the haters are narcs. Just read 10 posts of any of them. All up themselves.

1 hour ago, Wingate said:

Many of today's males are intimidated by strong women.

How do you identify a "strong woman"? Do they have a strong woman tattoo or carry a strong woman's ID card? I'm beginning to think you don't have many women in your life.

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18 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Narc

Perhaps I'm below "133", but I have no clue what your comment means.

 

What I do see---my opinion---is that there is a strong correlation between guys who are afraid to compete or are intimidated by the rise of women and minorities and support for the misogynist and racist Trump. Even Charlie Kirk had the audacity to tell women what he thought their place should be, which was just making babies. The Nazi and racist and misogynist stuff that is now the core of MAGA is insecurity and inferiority manifested.

 

I've benefited from two careers where neither gender nor skin color made a lick of difference. The only thing that mattered was could the person do the job. In my first career there were both females and minorities who excelled, and were awarded for their performance not because of anything DEI, but because they were good.

 

In my second career, I had female and minority colleagues who, with salary and bonus, took home 8 figures (in USD), because they made the funds significant money.

 

As one working both jobs, it was invigorating to be in such a competitive environment. It made EVERYONE ratchet up his or her game. Those intimidated by "others'" success, or who thought they deserved better because they were white males, were shown the door. It was put up or shut up (and go drive a truck or pour Slurpies).

 

Guys who welcome the kind of free competition many societies now offer will not only maximize their own skills, they will be attractive mates for their female colleagues, or for women in general. I think the word Incels have given them is "Chads".

 

Weak males will pine for that "AGAIN" time (from MAGA), where society kept women and minorities "in their place". Some will come to Thailand, thinking they can lord over the women here, failing to notice that Thai women are also climbing and assuming their rightful place in society, and will demand more than a big belly, a meager pension, and a bad misogynistic attitude from any partner.

 

Guys who don't like that can join the Onanist Society.

3 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Perhaps I'm below "133", but I have no clue what your comment means.

 

What I do see---my opinion---is that there is a strong correlation between guys who are afraid to compete or are intimidated by the rise of women and minorities and support for the misogynist and racist Trump. Even Charlie Kirk had the audacity to tell women what he thought their place should be, which was just making babies. The Nazi and racist and misogynist stuff that is now the core of MAGA is insecurity and inferiority manifested.

 

I've benefited from two careers where neither gender nor skin color made a lick of difference. The only thing that mattered was could the person do the job. In my first career there were both females and minorities who excelled, and were awarded for their performance not because of anything DEI, but because they were good.

 

In my second career, I had female and minority colleagues who, with salary and bonus, took home 8 figures (in USD), because they made the funds significant money.

 

As one working both jobs, it was invigorating to be in such a competitive environment. It made EVERYONE ratchet up his or her game. Those intimidated by "others'" success, or who thought they deserved better because they were white males, were shown the door. It was put up or shut up (and go drive a truck or pour Slurpies).

 

Guys who welcome the kind of free competition many societies now offer will not only maximize their own skills, they will be attractive mates for their female colleagues, or for women in general. I think the word Incels have given them is "Chads".

 

Weak males will pine for that "AGAIN" time (from MAGA), where society kept women and minorities "in their place". Some will come to Thailand, thinking they can lord over the women here, failing to notice that Thai women are also climbing and assuming their rightful place in society, and will demand more than a big belly, a meager pension, and a bad misogynistic attitude from any partner.

 

Guys who don't like that can join the Onanist Society.

Most farangs in Thailand are not American and you're boring. You just play race,gender, hitler cards on repeat but abuse fat people. So abusing people based on body size is ok but not ok to vote for Trump?

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12 hours ago, BLMFem said:

Yep, they're not pulling the ladies these fine specimen are obviously dating!

 

 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Latin name for that species is MAGAsaurus Wrecks.

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40 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

He's addicted to Trump just like a drug addicted is addicted to heroin. Drug addiction has a cure. No cure for narcs addicted to one eyed Trump rants. All the haters are narcs. Just read 10 posts of any of them. All up themselves.

No I’m not addicted to your deity perhaps you are,I feel trump is a threat to my country and democracy that’s it in a nutshell no more no less.like any any decent American I try to defend my country from her enemies both foreign and domestic.

2 minutes ago, Tug said:

No I’m not addicted to your deity perhaps you are,I feel trump is a threat to my country and democracy that’s it in a nutshell no more no less.like any any decent American I try to defend my country from her enemies both foreign and domestic.

Gdp up 3.8%

Stocks record highs

Fixed the border

Gave tax cuts

Solved middle east

 

Yeah big threat lol

 

You're a nut out of touch with reality. Stop watching MSNBC 

6 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Gdp up 3.8%

Stocks record highs

Fixed the border

Gave tax cuts

Solved middle east

 

Yeah big threat lol

 

You're a nut out of touch with reality. Stop watching MSNBC 

GDP 3.8 source?stocks yup the wealthy are doing just fine.fixed the border???he has masked thugs disappearing people off the streets dude that’s creating a major up roar + its beeing done outside the law and constitution.his tax cuts don’t benefit regular people just the wealthy and his tariffs tax is a further grift ripping off regular people.solved the Middle East???are you kidding???the reality is rite now he’s got the government dead by his own inability to negotiate,he’s trying to kill health care and food assistance to the poor thats just this month….you live in an alternate reality dude.

10 minutes ago, Tug said:

tax cuts don’t benefit regular people just the wealthy

This is incorrect.  

12 minutes ago, Tug said:

re you kidding???the reality is rite now he’s got the government dead by his own inability to negotiate,he’s trying to kill health care and food assistance to the poor thats just this month….you live in an alternate reality dude

Stop gaslighting.  

On 11/6/2025 at 9:23 AM, Wingate said:

Trump built his brand by courting and appealing to two types of white males. Together, these two are his bread and butter---or extra crispy and fries---and propelled him to his two wins.

 

One group is old white males, guys who are reflecting back on a life of mediocrity and minimal accomplishment, bitter at what they failed to achieve in life, and wanting somebody---anybody---to feel pain for their own lack of success. Trump won them by not only telling them their failure wasn’t their fault, but he gave them people to blame, whether that is immigrants or minorities or women. They can take that to their graves, but it doesn’t change the reality of their own inferiority.

 

The second group is the new young white male, a grossly underachieving guy whom society has left behind, but for whom tech bros and the social media tycoons have a ready product.

 

Young white males have fallen far behind their female peers. Females now greatly outnumber males earning college degrees. The pay gap has closed dramatically. Social media and addiction to phones and laptops has prevented young males from developing any sort of social skills. Young males are much more likely to live with their parents, be unemployed, and according to NYU Professor Scott Galloway, four times more likely to take their own lives. Fully a third of young white males are now reaching age 30 as virgins. They have no game, and because women are, on average, better educated and more likely to be gainfully employed, these males have nothing to offer women. The women don’t want them.

 

Young males tend to blame immigrants for their economic failure and women for their relationship and romantic failure. They’re incapable of accepting responsibility. The tech bros recognize this and produce algorithms that direct these guys to content that will feed their frustration, whether it’s on Reddit, Telegram, Truth Social, Facebook or Twitter. As Galloway, a former marketing tycoon said, the tech bros realized advertisers long got things wrong: they thought sex sells, while the tech bros know rage sells better. They feed young males content that enrages.

 

There are a large percentage of young white males who live in Mom’s basement, spend their days playing video games or scrolling social media targeted to their needs, and getting any carnal satisfaction by fapping to online porn. They think sex is pulling hair, choking, butt-to-mouth and other means of domination. No wonder women don’t want them. If they have a job, it’s being a crypto or meme stock trader. Online has become their life. They lack the motivation to improve themselves, get educated and learn job skills, get in shape, develop a personality, and learn how to build relationships with women. It’s much easier just to do nothing but blame others. They’re content to have Mom provide dinner, porn to provide “relationships”, and the fever swamps of the far right to provide “news” and outrage. They get into online echo chambers where one guy reinforces the misogyny and racism of another, until they become a hive of hate and anger. They think “Bros before hoes” is some clarion call of masculinity.

 

Trump’s “gift” was that he knew this anger and frustration was out there, and inherently knew such people were just like him----always looking for others to blame for what they failed to achieve. Of course the average young male lacks a daddy who will fund and back his life, allowing him to manufacture a false persona.

 

If Trump could possibly be honest, and admit the cause for his woeful insecurity, he would admit the only thing that kept him from a dead end job pouring Slurpies at a 7-11 or driving a truck was his daddy’s money and co-signed loans. On his own, Trump’s record is one of continual failure. Six bankruptcies---and for casinos of all things---says what his skill level as a businessman is, or isn’t. He took his father’s money, got loans co-signed, regularly stiffed contractors….and still failed in a real estate bull market. What finally saved him and got him where he is today is that Mark Burnett saw Trump’s self-created fantasy of a “dealmaker” and a business success, along with the constant hyperbole, could sell to a naïve and clueless audience. Burnett thus created “The Apprentice”, a TV game show that became a ratings winner and put hundreds of millions of dollars into Trump’s pocket. Trump additionally benefited when his successful father passed and left him almost half a billion dollars. Not so surprisingly, Trump then proceeded to fritter away that enormous wealth on money-losing projects such as golf courses and a myriad of failed businesses, from a fake university to steaks. (His domestic golf courses, being privately held, need not issue P&Ls, but his international properties such as Turnberry must issue P&Ls, and they show losses.)

 

Just how poorly Trump handled his own finances came to light when he said he did not have the ability to pay the fines and penalties imposed on him due to court cases he lost.

 

As a man who understood failure and his own tendency to need to blame others, Trump inherently knew how to appeal to similarly incompetent young males. He was vocal about all those people who should be hated and scorned. Immigrants were destroying the fabric of America, even “spoiling the blood”. Women and minorities were taking jobs because of DEI programs. Trump could fix that and give these loser males what was “rightfully” theirs. He couched his hatred in patriotic terms, even with his tag line about making America great “again”, with “again” a transparent call to a time when women and minorities “knew their place”, and white men were supreme simply by virtue of their birth, gender and skin color.

 

Certainly Trump’s siren song of “It’s not your fault you’re a failure” resonated, at least with white males. The problem is that rage and ability to blame takes on a life of its own and is moving out of Trump’s control.

 

It comes as no surprise that when hatred and blame are policy, platform and ideology, it will seep into the darkest corners of human thought and behavior. It’s no wonder young white males are into misogyny, following such miscreants as Andrew Tate. It’s no wonder they are embracing fascism, just hoping they’re on the right side of it. It’s no wonder they get glee watching masked and badgeless stormtroopers rough up people who “look different”, even when some of these people being roughed up are US Citizens. It’s no wonder there is a growing movement to not only embrace, but voice public admiration for Hitler, Naziism and antisemitism.

 

Trump gave the all clear to the worst of humanity in many ways. He called white males who marched with Tikitorches chanting “Jews will not replace us”, and males who attended a protest against the removal of statues of men who supported slavery, “some very fine people”.

 

When he called his cult to DC for 6 January 2021 and told them to “fight” and march to the Capitol as Trump’s election loss was being certified, he told them “We love you very much”, even after they beat 140 cops and set up a gallows to hang the Vice President. That isn’t tough love, it’s pandering to the worst human instincts.

 

Trump further shouted the “all clear” to hate and antisemitism when he invited Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes to a private dinner at Mar-a-Lago along with antisemite Kanye West. Fuentes has now even been platformed by far right icon Tucker Carlson. Also, the recently leaked transcript of an online chat of Young Republicans (many of whom are in their 30s and some are running for public office) showed such absurdity as “I love Hitler”, and “I’m ready to watch people burn”, and “Rape is epic”.

 

Trump opened Pandora’s Box and let these miscreants out. He encouraged their hatred and rage, and it has now become the bedrock ideology of the MAGA movement. MAGA now equals fascism, racism, misogyny and antisemitism. Never has that been more clear than in the last month, with everything from Young Republicans to the MAGA-ly conservative Heritage Foundation coming to the aid of Nick Fuentes, preventing Fuentes from being “cancelled”.

 

The bitter old white male demographic is dying off, but the up and coming leadership of the MAGA movement are these angry white males who love Hitler, blame women for their own romantic failures, and blame immigrants and minorities for their lack of economic success.

 

MAGA increasingly is the Party of hate, Hitler, racism and misogyny.

 

All of that got Trump elected, but the damage it wrought has only just begun. Ideally, real conservatives will retake the Party from MAGA and give Americans a fair choice. Ideally, there will be a role model emerging who will teach young males what it really means to be a man, not a misogynistic self-serving psychopathic crybaby like Trump. Trump is certainly the farthest thing from a real man, but sadly, he influenced a large segment of the young male population, while he appealed to the loser old men. The old guys are dinosaurs, on their last gasp of existence, but the young ones remain a threat to all that is good and decent and truly American.

 

I read two paragraphs.  What a pile of crap this posting is. 555

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3 hours ago, Tug said:

No I’m not addicted to your deity perhaps you are,I feel trump is a threat to my country and democracy that’s it in a nutshell no more no less.like any any decent American I try to defend my country from her enemies both foreign and domestic.

Once somebody coined that silly “syndrome” thing, MAGAs thought it was the be all end all of Trump critics. They are incapable of understanding that many people think any greatness the US has comes from its stated ideals, which include not only the rights specifically stated in the Bill of Rights, but also the appreciation that the US---even with its faults---is blessed with incredible abundance, and with that comes a responsibility to at least try to do something decent in the world. USAID was part of that. A generous immigration policy, too, as an admission both that new blood is invigorating, as well as an admission that a little too much privilege results merely from accidents of birth.

 

People who do not fit the disparaging term “sheeple” see Trump for what he is: willfully ignorant, totally self-serving, vindictive, racist, misogynist, pathologically mendacious, woefully insecure, undisciplined, and corrupt. His one and only gift is an inherent ability to appeal to the weak, forlorn, mediocre, insecure and entitled people. He is in every way a cult leader like Jim Jones to David Koresh to even worse historical cult leaders. He knows what to feed his cult: excuses and “others”. Trump also arrived at just the right time, when technological advances were obviating labor and making it more difficult for the mediocre to make ends meet. Concurrent with that was the growing societal equality, where those previously entitled by gender or skin color had to compete against a new half plus of society…..women and minorities. Young white males in particular have a problem with genuine equality, and rather than pull themselves up by their bootstraps, they’re joining MAGA and blaming the people with whom they now have to compete.

 

My original post was glaring proof of the demographic that may well suffer from a “syndrome” if one truly exists, which is to say, MAGAs. They immediately attacked, not even reading to find points to debate. I played the Danish cartoonist, and the MAGAjihadis rose up in defense of their messiah.

 

Listening to what MAGAs say and write, it seems they are most jubilant about the shutdown of the borders. While I agree nations have a right and responsibility to keep borders secure, I also know the US has benefited greatly from immigration, even undocumented migrants. Trump himself had no problem hiring them as far back as when he built his eponymous NYC tower and regularly employed undocumented workers at his clubs and golf course at least until 2017. Of course he’s a hypocrite.

 

Trump made the border issue about race. South of the border were “rapists and murderers”, and stealing a page from the Hitler playbook, he said these migrants were “spoiling the blood” of America. Note that rather than go after the demand (company owners who hire undocumented workers), he focused on supply, and even then, primarily what crossed land borders. 40% of undocumented people in the US arrived by air, not land. ICE is not barreling into Brighton Beach to round up Russians; they prefer to focus on brown people.

 

Trump’s brand is hate and hypocrisy and absurdity, which is why he owns the racists, Neo Nazis, white supremacists, QAnon, Incels, and Christian Nationalists (people who hate the very teachings of the man they claim to worship…Jesus).

 

Those of us who are genuine patriots hold dear the rights the Founders put down, while Trump obviously hates most of them, from free speech, to a free press, to freedom of assembly. Just this week Trump has gone after a 4th late night host---Seth Meyers---complaining that criticism by Meyers of Trump was “illegal”. He wants to pull broadcast licenses from media that doesn’t worship him. He has sent masked, badgeless stormtroopers into peaceful cities in an attempt to intimidate peaceful protesters, and even periodically threatens to invoke the Insurrection Act as a way to halt any protest of him. Not so surprisingly, if the protesters support him, even if they are violent and cause bodily harm, they are “loved” and get pardoned.

 

We speak out not because we suffer some "syndrome", but because we believe in American ideals and want the nation back on its work-in-progress path toward being everything it can be.

40 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Once somebody coined that silly “syndrome” thing, MAGAs thought it was the be all end all of Trump critics. They are incapable of understanding that many people think any greatness the US has comes from its stated ideals, which include not only the rights specifically stated in the Bill of Rights, but also the appreciation that the US---even with its faults---is blessed with incredible abundance, and with that comes a responsibility to at least try to do something decent in the world. USAID was part of that. A generous immigration policy, too, as an admission both that new blood is invigorating, as well as an admission that a little too much privilege results merely from accidents of birth.

 

People who do not fit the disparaging term “sheeple” see Trump for what he is: willfully ignorant, totally self-serving, vindictive, racist, misogynist, pathologically mendacious, woefully insecure, undisciplined, and corrupt. His one and only gift is an inherent ability to appeal to the weak, forlorn, mediocre, insecure and entitled people. He is in every way a cult leader like Jim Jones to David Koresh to even worse historical cult leaders. He knows what to feed his cult: excuses and “others”. Trump also arrived at just the right time, when technological advances were obviating labor and making it more difficult for the mediocre to make ends meet. Concurrent with that was the growing societal equality, where those previously entitled by gender or skin color had to compete against a new half plus of society…..women and minorities. Young white males in particular have a problem with genuine equality, and rather than pull themselves up by their bootstraps, they’re joining MAGA and blaming the people with whom they now have to compete.

 

My original post was glaring proof of the demographic that may well suffer from a “syndrome” if one truly exists, which is to say, MAGAs. They immediately attacked, not even reading to find points to debate. I played the Danish cartoonist, and the MAGAjihadis rose up in defense of their messiah.

 

Listening to what MAGAs say and write, it seems they are most jubilant about the shutdown of the borders. While I agree nations have a right and responsibility to keep borders secure, I also know the US has benefited greatly from immigration, even undocumented migrants. Trump himself had no problem hiring them as far back as when he built his eponymous NYC tower and regularly employed undocumented workers at his clubs and golf course at least until 2017. Of course he’s a hypocrite.

 

Trump made the border issue about race. South of the border were “rapists and murderers”, and stealing a page from the Hitler playbook, he said these migrants were “spoiling the blood” of America. Note that rather than go after the demand (company owners who hire undocumented workers), he focused on supply, and even then, primarily what crossed land borders. 40% of undocumented people in the US arrived by air, not land. ICE is not barreling into Brighton Beach to round up Russians; they prefer to focus on brown people.

 

Trump’s brand is hate and hypocrisy and absurdity, which is why he owns the racists, Neo Nazis, white supremacists, QAnon, Incels, and Christian Nationalists (people who hate the very teachings of the man they claim to worship…Jesus).

 

Those of us who are genuine patriots hold dear the rights the Founders put down, while Trump obviously hates most of them, from free speech, to a free press, to freedom of assembly. Just this week Trump has gone after a 4th late night host---Seth Meyers---complaining that criticism by Meyers of Trump was “illegal”. He wants to pull broadcast licenses from media that doesn’t worship him. He has sent masked, badgeless stormtroopers into peaceful cities in an attempt to intimidate peaceful protesters, and even periodically threatens to invoke the Insurrection Act as a way to halt any protest of him. Not so surprisingly, if the protesters support him, even if they are violent and cause bodily harm, they are “loved” and get pardoned.

 

We speak out not because we suffer some "syndrome", but because we believe in American ideals and want the nation back on its work-in-progress path toward being everything it can be.

You speak out cause you have Trump on the brain 24/7.

5 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

https://www.reuters.com/business/us-second-quarter-gdp-growth-revised-sharply-higher-2025-09-25/

 

  • Second-quarter GDP growth revised up to a 3.8% rate
  • Consumer spending accounts for the upgrade to growth
  • Weekly claims for unemployment benefits drop 14,000 to 218,000

Broken record! 🤣

 

1. That's annualized growth, not quarter growth. Quarter growth is 0.9%

 

2. As you know, Q2 annualized growth was high because Q1 annualized growth was at -0.6%.

H1 2025 annualized growth rate is 1.6%. That's lower than H1 2024 growth rate, which was  2.1%

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5 hours ago, Wingate said:

Once somebody coined that silly “syndrome” thing, MAGAs thought it was the be all end all of Trump critics. They are incapable of understanding that many people think any greatness the US has comes from its stated ideals, which include not only the rights specifically stated in the Bill of Rights, but also the appreciation that the US---even with its faults---is blessed with incredible abundance, and with that comes a responsibility to at least try to do something decent in the world. USAID was part of that. A generous immigration policy, too, as an admission both that new blood is invigorating, as well as an admission that a little too much privilege results merely from accidents of birth.

 

People who do not fit the disparaging term “sheeple” see Trump for what he is: willfully ignorant, totally self-serving, vindictive, racist, misogynist, pathologically mendacious, woefully insecure, undisciplined, and corrupt. His one and only gift is an inherent ability to appeal to the weak, forlorn, mediocre, insecure and entitled people. He is in every way a cult leader like Jim Jones to David Koresh to even worse historical cult leaders. He knows what to feed his cult: excuses and “others”. Trump also arrived at just the right time, when technological advances were obviating labor and making it more difficult for the mediocre to make ends meet. Concurrent with that was the growing societal equality, where those previously entitled by gender or skin color had to compete against a new half plus of society…..women and minorities. Young white males in particular have a problem with genuine equality, and rather than pull themselves up by their bootstraps, they’re joining MAGA and blaming the people with whom they now have to compete.

 

My original post was glaring proof of the demographic that may well suffer from a “syndrome” if one truly exists, which is to say, MAGAs. They immediately attacked, not even reading to find points to debate. I played the Danish cartoonist, and the MAGAjihadis rose up in defense of their messiah.

 

Listening to what MAGAs say and write, it seems they are most jubilant about the shutdown of the borders. While I agree nations have a right and responsibility to keep borders secure, I also know the US has benefited greatly from immigration, even undocumented migrants. Trump himself had no problem hiring them as far back as when he built his eponymous NYC tower and regularly employed undocumented workers at his clubs and golf course at least until 2017. Of course he’s a hypocrite.

 

Trump made the border issue about race. South of the border were “rapists and murderers”, and stealing a page from the Hitler playbook, he said these migrants were “spoiling the blood” of America. Note that rather than go after the demand (company owners who hire undocumented workers), he focused on supply, and even then, primarily what crossed land borders. 40% of undocumented people in the US arrived by air, not land. ICE is not barreling into Brighton Beach to round up Russians; they prefer to focus on brown people.

 

Trump’s brand is hate and hypocrisy and absurdity, which is why he owns the racists, Neo Nazis, white supremacists, QAnon, Incels, and Christian Nationalists (people who hate the very teachings of the man they claim to worship…Jesus).

 

Those of us who are genuine patriots hold dear the rights the Founders put down, while Trump obviously hates most of them, from free speech, to a free press, to freedom of assembly. Just this week Trump has gone after a 4th late night host---Seth Meyers---complaining that criticism by Meyers of Trump was “illegal”. He wants to pull broadcast licenses from media that doesn’t worship him. He has sent masked, badgeless stormtroopers into peaceful cities in an attempt to intimidate peaceful protesters, and even periodically threatens to invoke the Insurrection Act as a way to halt any protest of him. Not so surprisingly, if the protesters support him, even if they are violent and cause bodily harm, they are “loved” and get pardoned.

 

We speak out not because we suffer some "syndrome", but because we believe in American ideals and want the nation back on its work-in-progress path toward being everything it can be.

Is this AI?  Complete vilification, nonsense, and attack upon anyone who holds another view.   Welcome my Ignore list.

21 hours ago, Wingate said:

Perhaps I'm below "133", but I have no clue what your comment means.

 

What I do see---my opinion---is that there is a strong correlation between guys who are afraid to compete or are intimidated by the rise of women and minorities and support for the misogynist and racist Trump. Even Charlie Kirk had the audacity to tell women what he thought their place should be, which was just making babies. The Nazi and racist and misogynist stuff that is now the core of MAGA is insecurity and inferiority manifested.

 

I've benefited from two careers where neither gender nor skin color made a lick of difference. The only thing that mattered was could the person do the job. In my first career there were both females and minorities who excelled, and were awarded for their performance not because of anything DEI, but because they were good.

 

In my second career, I had female and minority colleagues who, with salary and bonus, took home 8 figures (in USD), because they made the funds significant money.

 

As one working both jobs, it was invigorating to be in such a competitive environment. It made EVERYONE ratchet up his or her game. Those intimidated by "others'" success, or who thought they deserved better because they were white males, were shown the door. It was put up or shut up (and go drive a truck or pour Slurpies).

 

Guys who welcome the kind of free competition many societies now offer will not only maximize their own skills, they will be attractive mates for their female colleagues, or for women in general. I think the word Incels have given them is "Chads".

 

Weak males will pine for that "AGAIN" time (from MAGA), where society kept women and minorities "in their place". Some will come to Thailand, thinking they can lord over the women here, failing to notice that Thai women are also climbing and assuming their rightful place in society, and will demand more than a big belly, a meager pension, and a bad misogynistic attitude from any partner.

 

Guys who don't like that can join the Onanist Society.

You've read one book, and now you consider yourself an expert on white males. Then, you switch from speaking in the third person to humble bragging, mixed with disdain for anyone who disagrees with your political viewpoints. 

 

Is this an act? 

On 11/6/2025 at 4:11 AM, Will B Good said:

 

 

 

Saw this earlier today ......thought it summed up the US nicely.....

 

 

 

 

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You need to understand what socialism is, and this is not it. 

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16 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

You speak out cause you have Trump on the brain 24/7.

I speak out because I care about the nation I served and to whose written ideals I took an oath.

 

You are incapable of understanding that, but are suffering the obsession/syndrome you try to foist upon others.

 

64 posts in just this thread alone says who is actually suffering from some "syndrome". Pot, meet kettle. That says many things about you, none of which is good.

 

By the way, in case you missed it, you got hosed by an online IQ site that is created to attract weak and insecure people....praise them deceitfully with a silly fake score, and then try to market something to them.

 

What, you think somebody actually pays to have code written, a test made up, website created, server space bought, just to give people an "accurate" assessment of their IQ out of the goodness of their heart? If you believe that, then best take the first digit off whatever fantasy IQ the website claims you achieved.

On 11/7/2025 at 9:16 AM, spidermike007 said:

And Trump is so oversensitive, he's so thin skinned, he's such a petty lightweight, that he simply cannot handle an insult at all, he wilts like a wallflower and must engage in a hateful diatribe. He's very predictable in that regard. This is who and what he is. A petty bully. 

 

Actually, he seems fairly THICK-skinned, not thin-skinned.

At least 200 million people hate him and point it out on a daily basis.

Some people actually wish him dead.

He is constantly attacked in the media, often viciously attacked, and it's debatable whether more than half those claims are true.

One could argue that all this hatred directed at him is a form of bullying.

It takes a strong person to withstand all that hate and hostility.

 

He lashes out at people who attack him or go against him. And so what? It's called defending yourself. 

 

Many much more thin-skinned folks have quit the forum because they had one too many people direct a bit of hostility towards them. 

 

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