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On 11/20/2025 at 10:06 AM, Stiddle Mump said:

There are stages to tumor growth. The first is somewhat dependent upon the strength of the body. Is it capable of fighting off the toxin in real time? The second step is again dependent upon the host (us). It will bring out its array of cures; symptoms. These include; coughs, sneezes, sweating, fevers. We all know what they are. And what often happens? Off to the doc to get medicine. The medicine is usually designed to work as a suppressor. The symptoms lessen; maybe go. We are cured? However the toxicity is pushed further into the tissues where is can stay for months even years. To be removed at a later stage? Or maybe not!

 

Yes , regarding treatment of cancer you have a point.

 

If you go down the path of chemotherapy, there's no turning back to try to allow the body to heal itself because the chemotherapy will damage too many healthy cells. 

 

If you try other modalities which "starve the cancer" AND assist the body's natural healing process, you might have a chance of remission without the side effects of chemo. 

 

But you need to know what you're doing to try to bring cancer into remission without medical intervention. And when you are diagnosed, you may be too stressed to handle it yourself. Daunting task to "go it alone". 

 

Places like Mexico have "alternative cancer treatment centers" because they don't have the same regulations as in the US, which are imposed by Big Pharma and make these places illegal.

 

https://www.immunitytherapycenter.com/

 

Immunity Therapy Center™ was created to provide Cancer patients with alternative treatment options besides traditional chemotherapy and radiation therapy. Our non-invasive cancer therapies have helped patients with even the most advanced stages of Cancer find hope in healing.

 

 

11 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Yes , regarding treatment of cancer you have a point.

 

If you go down the path of chemotherapy, there's no turning back to try to allow the body to heal itself because the chemotherapy will damage too many healthy cells. 

 

If you try other modalities which "starve the cancer" AND assist the body's natural healing process, you might have a chance of remission without the side effects of chemo. 

 

But you need to know what you're doing to try to bring cancer into remission without medical intervention. And when you are diagnosed, you may be too stressed to handle it yourself. Daunting task to "go it alone". 

 

Places like Mexico have "alternative cancer treatment centers" because they don't have the same regulations as in the US, which are imposed by Big Pharma and make these places illegal.

 

https://www.immunitytherapycenter.com/

 

Immunity Therapy Center™ was created to provide Cancer patients with alternative treatment options besides traditional chemotherapy and radiation therapy. Our non-invasive cancer therapies have helped patients with even the most advanced stages of Cancer find hope in healing.

 

 

Dr Bigelsen had great success in Mexico with cancer. He was ridiculed and threatened with prison in the US. There are others also. Chased out of their own countries, and forced to practice - with great effect - there.

 

Cancer, the causes of, and treatments of, needs a giant rethink at the top levels, in virtually all countries. A lot of $$$ say they don't want change though. It's gonna be a battle.

22 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Dr Wakefield got a great reception in York on 18th October this year.

 

He cared about children's health unlike many.

 

Hitler used to get fantastic receptions.

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

Hitler used to get fantastic receptions.

He did indeed. So did Trump.

On 11/20/2025 at 10:06 PM, Stiddle Mump said:

As usual Sir, you have something in a twist.

 

The body - yours and mine - is a wonderful piece of kit, that will do best it can to survive and reproduce. But, even in saying that, it will not allow the latter if the terrain is not as good as it should be. So, it has an inbuilt intelligence that we don't comprehend.

 

In my world, the body does things for a reason. It doesn't normally make mistakes. So when a tumor is formed, it is usually a last resort to protect the host; the person. Protect!? 

 

There are stages to tumor growth. The first is somewhat dependent upon the strength of the body. Is it capable of fighting off the toxin in real time? The second step is again dependent upon the host (us). It will bring out its array of cures; symptoms. These include; coughs, sneezes, sweating, fevers. We all know what they are. And what often happens? Off to the doc to get medicine. The medicine is usually designed to work as a suppressor. The symptoms lessen; maybe go. We are cured? However the toxicity is pushed further into the tissues where is can stay for months even years. To be removed at a later stage? Or maybe not!

 

Next stage is to break down the toxins through other methods. Bacteria and macerozymes get to work. They create microscopic fungi (mold). This then 'eats' the toxic molecules. And after some time, hopefully, we are back to pre-toxin days. However. This is not always the case. And if more toxic entities arrive the body will coat the baddies, seal them in a pouch and store them away out of harm's reach; ABIC.

 

This step of creating a tumor is not the last step in the cancer story however. The body will - if given the tools and support - still attempt to repair. No tools & no support, or/and the toxins keep coming then a bigger tumor or more of them.

 

So! As I say, getting a tumor is almost the last resort in the body's quest to protect us.

 

I say we must learn to read our bodies. Take control of our own health destiny and that of our loved ones. It is not by constantly taking drugs, that will ensure good health, but by giving it adequate nourishment in the first place, and understanding that symptoms are the cure. 

 

Kick off those boots Richard, and go for a long walk in the forest. You know you want to.

 

If you think differently Sir; let's debate.

 

 

Enough hog wash to clean up all the pigs in Thailand!

 

Here's an analysis of your same, same old rubbish:

Msr. Gemini III has a lot to say:

 

This text presents a perspective often found in certain alternative health circles (resembling theories like "German New Medicine" or extreme naturopathy). While it uses biological sounding words, the text is scientifically and medically inaccurate.

It presents a teleological view of disease—meaning it assumes the body creates symptoms and tumors "on purpose" to help us. Modern pathology and oncology understand these processes as malfunctions or immune responses, not calculated storage strategies.

Here is a breakdown of the claims in the text compared to medical reality.

1. The Nature of Symptoms

• The Text's Claim: Symptoms like fevers, coughs, and sweating are the body "bringing out cures" and expelling toxins.
• The Scientific Reality: This is partially true but misinterpreted.
  • Fever: Indeed a defense mechanism to make the body inhospitable to viruses or bacteria.
  • Coughing/Sneezing: Expels irritants or pathogens.
  • The Inaccuracy: Not all symptoms are "cures," and not all illness is caused by "toxins." Most acute illnesses described here are caused by pathogens (viruses and bacteria), not environmental toxins.

2. Medicine and "Suppression"

• The Text's Claim: Medicine suppresses symptoms, which "pushes the toxicity further into the tissues" to stay for years.
• The Scientific Reality: This is a common myth.
  • Medicine (like antibiotics or anti-inflammatories) works by killing bacteria or blocking chemical pathways that cause pain/inflammation.
  • There is no biological mechanism where a "toxin" is physically pushed deeper into a tissue because you took an aspirin. The liver and kidneys filter blood to remove waste regardless of whether you take symptom-suppressing medication.

 

3. The Role of Fungi and Bacteria

• The Text's Claim: The body uses bacteria and creates "microscopic fungi (mold)" to eat toxic molecules.
• The Scientific Reality: This is biologically impossible.
  • The human body does not "create" mold or fungi to clean itself.
  • While we have a microbiome (beneficial bacteria in the gut), the immune system uses specialized cells called phagocytes (like macrophages) to engulf and destroy cellular debris and pathogens.
  • Systemic fungal growth (mold in the body) is not a cure; it is a serious, often life-threatening infection (mycosis).

 

4. What a Tumor Actually Is

• The Text's Claim: If toxins keep coming, the body "coats the baddies, seals them in a pouch... ABIC." A tumor is a storage pouch for toxins to keep them out of harm's way.
• The Scientific Reality: This is the most dangerous inaccuracy in the text.
  • Tumors are not pouches of toxins. A tumor (neoplasm) is a mass of the body's own cells that have mutated.
  • These cells have lost the ability to stop dividing. They consume the body's resources (oxygen and nutrients); they do not store waste.
  • Malignant tumors (cancer) invade surrounding tissues and spread (metastasize). They are not a protective measure; they are a cellular malfunction that threatens the organism's survival.

 

5. The "Last Resort" Theory

• The Text's Claim: Getting a tumor is the body's "last resort" to protect us.
• The Scientific Reality: Cancer is not a strategy; it is a breakdown of order.
  • The body has many defense mechanisms (DNA repair, apoptosis/cell suicide, immune surveillance).
  • Cancer occurs when these defense mechanisms fail, not when they are deployed as a final strategy.

 

 

Summary of Accuracy

 

Concept	Accuracy Verdict	Explanation
Symptoms as Defense	Mixed	Fever is defensive, but not all symptoms are "curing toxins."
Medicine "Pushing" Toxins	False	Medicine does not displace chemical toxins into tissues.
Body Creating Mold	False	The body fights mold; it does not create it to eat toxins.
Tumor as "Toxic Pouch"	False	Tumors are uncontrolled cell growth, not waste storage.
Cancer as Protection	False	Cancer is a disease of mutation, not a survival strategy.

Why this text is dangerous

 

Believing this text could lead a patient to view a growing tumor as a "safe storage pouch" that is helping them, potentially causing them to delay or refuse life-saving treatment like surgery or chemotherapy under the false belief that the tumor is "protecting" them from toxins

 

6 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

Enough hog wash to clean up all the pigs in Thailand!

 

Not sure how helpful it is to wrestle with technical jargon.

Probably no one will pay you to practice medicine any time soon.

 

Best is to research how to best take care of your health.

And if you ever do get cancer, are there better alternatives than conventional radiation?

 

Just did a quick AI search and there are some clinics in Thailand that appear to be using alternative modalities to tackle cancer.

 

Akesis Life Clinic (Bangkok): An immuno-oncology center that uses an integrative approach, combining modern medicine with lifestyle advice and natural therapies to strengthen the body's immune system against cancer.

 

Oasis Healing Asia (Bangkok): Unveiled in 2024, this center provides comprehensive integrative cancer care based on over 38 years of expertise from Dr. Thomas Lodi, focusing on non-toxic, personalized treatment plans including nutrition (vegan diet), yoga, and meditation.

 

Malaysia 

 

• SOL Integrative Wellness Centre (Kuala Lumpur): This center offers natural and effective solutions for chronic diseases and cancer clients using cutting-edge screening and treatment facilities that focus on natural elements and drug-free methods.

9 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

Enough hog wash to clean up all the pigs in Thailand!

 

Here's an analysis of your same, same old rubbish:

Msr. Gemini III has a lot to say:

 

This text presents a perspective often found in certain alternative health circles (resembling theories like "German New Medicine" or extreme naturopathy). While it uses biological sounding words, the text is scientifically and medically inaccurate.

It presents a teleological view of disease—meaning it assumes the body creates symptoms and tumors "on purpose" to help us. Modern pathology and oncology understand these processes as malfunctions or immune responses, not calculated storage strategies.

Here is a breakdown of the claims in the text compared to medical reality.

1. The Nature of Symptoms

• The Text's Claim: Symptoms like fevers, coughs, and sweating are the body "bringing out cures" and expelling toxins.
• The Scientific Reality: This is partially true but misinterpreted.
  • Fever: Indeed a defense mechanism to make the body inhospitable to viruses or bacteria.
  • Coughing/Sneezing: Expels irritants or pathogens.
  • The Inaccuracy: Not all symptoms are "cures," and not all illness is caused by "toxins." Most acute illnesses described here are caused by pathogens (viruses and bacteria), not environmental toxins.

2. Medicine and "Suppression"

• The Text's Claim: Medicine suppresses symptoms, which "pushes the toxicity further into the tissues" to stay for years.
• The Scientific Reality: This is a common myth.
  • Medicine (like antibiotics or anti-inflammatories) works by killing bacteria or blocking chemical pathways that cause pain/inflammation.
  • There is no biological mechanism where a "toxin" is physically pushed deeper into a tissue because you took an aspirin. The liver and kidneys filter blood to remove waste regardless of whether you take symptom-suppressing medication.

 

3. The Role of Fungi and Bacteria

• The Text's Claim: The body uses bacteria and creates "microscopic fungi (mold)" to eat toxic molecules.
• The Scientific Reality: This is biologically impossible.
  • The human body does not "create" mold or fungi to clean itself.
  • While we have a microbiome (beneficial bacteria in the gut), the immune system uses specialized cells called phagocytes (like macrophages) to engulf and destroy cellular debris and pathogens.
  • Systemic fungal growth (mold in the body) is not a cure; it is a serious, often life-threatening infection (mycosis).

 

4. What a Tumor Actually Is

• The Text's Claim: If toxins keep coming, the body "coats the baddies, seals them in a pouch... ABIC." A tumor is a storage pouch for toxins to keep them out of harm's way.
• The Scientific Reality: This is the most dangerous inaccuracy in the text.
  • Tumors are not pouches of toxins. A tumor (neoplasm) is a mass of the body's own cells that have mutated.
  • These cells have lost the ability to stop dividing. They consume the body's resources (oxygen and nutrients); they do not store waste.
  • Malignant tumors (cancer) invade surrounding tissues and spread (metastasize). They are not a protective measure; they are a cellular malfunction that threatens the organism's survival.

 

5. The "Last Resort" Theory

• The Text's Claim: Getting a tumor is the body's "last resort" to protect us.
• The Scientific Reality: Cancer is not a strategy; it is a breakdown of order.
  • The body has many defense mechanisms (DNA repair, apoptosis/cell suicide, immune surveillance).
  • Cancer occurs when these defense mechanisms fail, not when they are deployed as a final strategy.

 

 

Summary of Accuracy

 

Concept	Accuracy Verdict	Explanation
Symptoms as Defense	Mixed	Fever is defensive, but not all symptoms are "curing toxins."
Medicine "Pushing" Toxins	False	Medicine does not displace chemical toxins into tissues.
Body Creating Mold	False	The body fights mold; it does not create it to eat toxins.
Tumor as "Toxic Pouch"	False	Tumors are uncontrolled cell growth, not waste storage.
Cancer as Protection	False	Cancer is a disease of mutation, not a survival strategy.

Why this text is dangerous

 

Believing this text could lead a patient to view a growing tumor as a "safe storage pouch" that is helping them, potentially causing them to delay or refuse life-saving treatment like surgery or chemotherapy under the false belief that the tumor is "protecting" them from toxins

 

I come at the body, and good health, from a different angle Sir.

 

It is too deep to get right into here, but the tumor, I spoke of earlier, is not only a mix of unbalanced and renegade cells - that is proteins and toxins - but it has lost the ability - quite deliberately IMO - to carry a bio-electrical charge. Why is this? Because the damaged cell clusters can be grouped together, and be separated from their neighbors; that are normal tissue.

 

We must get away from this idea that our bodies are doing bad things to us. They are not. Everything it does is for - and I've said it often enough times to fill an essay - to keep the body in good health. Because it has fundamental ideals. Protection, growth and reproduction.

 

This theme, pushed relentlessly by Big Pharma and white-coats, that the body makes mistakes is nonsense.

 

Another theme that I take issue with, propagated by the medical industry, is that the body is a collection of chemical parts, acting alone. My take, is that the body is one and everything has an effect on the whole. We are a mix of chemical and electrical activity.

 

Perhaps a new topic for this; the basis of human life.

 

3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

Not sure how helpful it is to wrestle with technical jargon.

Probably no one will pay you to practice medicine any time soon.

 

Best is to research how to best take care of your health.

And if you ever do get cancer, are there better alternatives than conventional radiation?

 

Just did a quick AI search and there are some clinics in Thailand that appear to be using alternative modalities to tackle cancer.

 

Akesis Life Clinic (Bangkok): An immuno-oncology center that uses an integrative approach, combining modern medicine with lifestyle advice and natural therapies to strengthen the body's immune system against cancer.

 

Oasis Healing Asia (Bangkok): Unveiled in 2024, this center provides comprehensive integrative cancer care based on over 38 years of expertise from Dr. Thomas Lodi, focusing on non-toxic, personalized treatment plans including nutrition (vegan diet), yoga, and meditation.

 

Malaysia 

 

• SOL Integrative Wellness Centre (Kuala Lumpur): This center offers natural and effective solutions for chronic diseases and cancer clients using cutting-edge screening and treatment facilities that focus on natural elements and drug-free methods.

Good post this.

 

There are clinics throughout the world that have had great success in treating many devastating (supposedly) disorders. Disorders that general medicine have said cannot be helped. And were given up on.

 

I personally have a hip problem. I injured it through work twice, when in my 30s, and again in my 40s. It is now, 30+ years later, causing me some grief. 

 

After experimenting with various minerals, supplements and exercise (including yoga), I have found the best relief of the nagging pain is quite simple. When I hold a magnet against my hip for 5 minutes, or so, it gives me hours of pain-free activity.

 

We underestimate the body. Usually because we don't understand how it actually works. Many are cottoning on to the real energy pathways of the body, but are ridiculed and often forced to stop their work. Some have to leave their country of birth, just to help people get well, and stay well.

 

Going back to my hip for a mo. What is the magnet actually doing? I believe that it is putting the bio-electrical pathways in order. Albeit temporarily. There is damage to the hip that might never be fixed. Probably beyond repair. But the magnet does it for me.

 

As Dr A Kaufman once said; "We know more about the moon than we do about the human body. And we don't know that much about the moon."