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Gaza genocide, the world changed – sovereignty died and thuggery

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8 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Whilst I agree with everything you say reference what the Israeli's have done over the past 2 years, I would hope that the more enlightened from both sides will see this merry-go-round has to stop sometime and another way found to move forward, this is perhaps that time.

With fresh elections on both sides well overdue, is there not a faint chance for a more civilised approach to the problem?

Will the Palestinians who have lost everything : family , home , schools and hospitals, wifes, children , grandparents and lost everything else .

Will they be willing to live peacefully with Israel ?

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9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Will the Palestinians who have lost everything : family , home , schools and hospitals, wifes, children , grandparents and lost everything else .

Will they be willing to live peacefully with Israel ?

We will never know, until both sides give it a go, there is now, I believe an opportunity with Worldwide support to stop the carnage of the past 78 years, the alternative is total War in the Middle East where everyone losses.

Religion is the problem in my view, stopping the far corners of Islam and the Zionist/Jewish differences, I'm convinced with help Worldwide this could be accomplished.

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Hamas need to be defeated .

No argument from on that point, provided occupation ends and a two state solution is implements, otherwise, Hamas is just the Palestinian's unofficial army.

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Israel needs to win this war .

There are no winners in war.

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Some Israelis my oppose Bibi , but not many oppose the war.

If they do not oppose the war, what are the recent, and current, protests about in Israel?

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

They understand that Hamas MUST be eliminated .

While there is no two state solution, Hamas will never be eliminated.

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Corruption charges and the war are two different issues

It's the war keeping BiBi out of prison. That's why he continually sort to expand it, thus lengthen it. Then, he bombed the same piles of rubble three times. He's running out of targets in order to stay out of prison. 🙂

3 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

We will never know, until both sides give it a go, there is now, I believe an opportunity with Worldwide support to stop the carnage of the past 78 years, the alternative is total War in the Middle East where everyone losses.

Religion is the problem in my view, stopping the far corners of Islam and the Zionist/Jewish differences, I'm convinced with help Worldwide this could be accomplished.

I have the poster you replied to on ignore, so didn't see his post.

So the reasoning now is: we bombed you, made you lose everything, both material and family and friends, so we can't trust you anymore to stay nice to us. Therefore we'll evict you and move you to another country.

Yes, i am convinced Israel will take full control of Gaza and the West Bank, but this reasoning is just sickening.

4 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

We will never know, until both sides give it a go, there is now, I believe an opportunity with Worldwide support to stop the carnage of the past 78 years, the alternative is total War in the Middle East where everyone losses.

Religion is the problem in my view, stopping the far corners of Islam and the Zionist/Jewish differences, I'm convinced with help Worldwide this could be accomplished.

Once and if the Iranian regime gets removed , there could well be peace in the region .

Lets nor forget that Hamas started the war to stop Israel and Saudi becoming friends .

If the Iran regimes gets removed , it will be the end of Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houthis as well

3 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

While there is no two state solution, Hamas will never be eliminated.

Yes, that is the reason why Palestinians need to voluntary emigrate and to leave Gaza , there will always be terrorists whilst Palestinians exist on the land .

They gotta go

3 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

If they do not oppose the war, what are the recent, and current, protests about in Israel?

I just did websearch to find out and the protests in Israel seem to Orthodox Jews protesting about having to join the army .

They don't want to have to join the IDF is what they are protesting about , they aren't protesting against the war

1 hour ago, Jeff the Chef said:

@stevenl I always quote him whenever I reply to his posts, do you not see what he has said when I reply?

Yes, that's why i replied. I find his post sickening.

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2 hours ago, stevenl said:

Yes, that's why i replied. I find his post sickening.

You're not alone.

One should be able to block seeing all of an ignored's posts. Especially fundamentalist Zionist who support Israeli terrorists genociding

20 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

It's the war keeping BiBi out of prison. That's why he continually sort to expand it, thus lengthen it. Then, he bombed the same piles of rubble three times. He's running out of targets in order to stay out of prison. 🙂

The real reason why the war is continuing is because Hamas refuse to surrender and step down .

Hamas are not complying with their ceasefire agreement and so the war cannot end .

BTW , what pile of rubble hs been bombed 3 times ?

18 hours ago, stevenl said:

So the reasoning now is: we bombed you, made you lose everything, both material and family and friends, so we can't trust you anymore to stay nice to us. .

Palestinians have been attacking Israel since 1948 , non stop attacks which Israel tolerated .

Oct 7 th made Israel realise that the Palestine problem needs to be dealt with , a final solution to the Palestine problem

On 1/16/2026 at 6:19 AM, KhunHeineken said:

Obviously, a Jewish person can not be anti semetic, well, I think they can't, but it interests me why they can crack a joke about it, for the world to see, and people can laugh about it, but if someone posts about it on this forum, it's anti Jewish / anti semetic.

Who gets to say what words are racist or anti semetic, and in what context they are allowed or not allowed to say the EXACT same words in.

For me, it's a subject of interest, especially in the woke and PC era we live in, where many comedians are now saying the comedy stage is the only place left that allows freedom of speech.

I would be interested in your views on this.

I'm happy to share my views!

This board has more a handful of antisemitic posters. You'd need both your fingers and toes to count them. Fortunately, the Admin and Mods keep them in line and hide the worst posts.

But first the standard disclaimed: Just like not all criticism of Israel's policies is inherently antisemitic, not all jokes about Jews are expressions of antisemitism.

So how do you distinguish the worst of the hardcore Jew haters from AN members with legitimate criticism of Jews and Israel?

CONTEXT and INTENT determine whether an oral or written statement, joke, broadcast, whatever, is antisemitic or not. As you noted, the exact same words or phrases can be regarded as at least a (feeble) attempt at humor when used by a Jew but deeply antisemitic when uttered by a neo-Nazi or Hamas supporter.

This applies to every group and even individuals in society, no matter what their ethnicity, race or religion. If I were drinking with friends in a bar and one of them called me a b*stard or son of a b*tch, I'd regard it as a joke and not get offended. But if a stranger said the same thing to me in a bar, I'd figure he was looking for a fight and I'd either get the hell away or prepare to defend myself.

That's the way it works with the N-word in the U.S. It's accepted as harmless between African Americans, but hugely offensive if used by whites. It comes down to context, context, context and intent, intent, intent.

Jewish humor has always involved a heaping helping of self-depreciation. Two of the greatest U.S. comedy teams were Jewish and although they didn't acknowledge their backgrounds in their acts, they subtly poked fun at aspects of Jewish life. This paved the way for more recent comedians like Don Rickles, Buddy Hackett, Joan Rivers, Jerry Seinfeld, Sara Silverman and many other others to build their acts and comedic persona around their Jewish identity.

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On 1/18/2026 at 12:04 PM, Evil Penevil said:

I'm happy to share my views!

This board has more a handful of antisemitic posters. You'd need both your fingers and toes to count them. Fortunately, the Admin and Mods keep them in line and hide the worst posts.

But first the standard disclaimed: Just like not all criticism of Israel's policies is inherently antisemitic, not all jokes about Jews are expressions of antisemitism.

So how do you distinguish the worst of the hardcore Jew haters from AN members with legitimate criticism of Jews and Israel?

CONTEXT and INTENT determine whether an oral or written statement, joke, broadcast, whatever, is antisemitic or not. As you noted, the exact same words or phrases can be regarded as at least a (feeble) attempt at humor when used by a Jew but deeply antisemitic when uttered by a neo-Nazi or Hamas supporter.

This applies to every group and even individuals in society, no matter what their ethnicity, race or religion. If I were drinking with friends in a bar and one of them called me a b*stard or son of a b*tch, I'd regard it as a joke and not get offended. But if a stranger said the same thing to me in a bar, I'd figure he was looking for a fight and I'd either get the hell away or prepare to defend myself.

That's the way it works with the N-word in the U.S. It's accepted as harmless between African Americans, but hugely offensive if used by whites. It comes down to context, context, context and intent, intent, intent.

Jewish humor has always involved a heaping helping of self-depreciation. Two of the greatest U.S. comedy teams were Jewish and although they didn't acknowledge their backgrounds in their acts, they subtly poked fun at aspects of Jewish life. This paved the way for more recent comedians like Don Rickles, Buddy Hackett, Joan Rivers, Jerry Seinfeld, Sara Silverman and many other others to build their acts and comedic persona around their Jewish identity.

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Good post.

The subject interests me because if I had a close Jewish friend, I could crack a joke about "Jews and money" with him and he could crack a joke back at me and it's fine.

Crack the same joke on this forum and it's viewed by Jewish members as anti semetic, and possibly viewed by the Mods in the same way. Same words, same joke, same religion, same race, just different people and delivery method.

Every race has its peculiarities that is the brunt of jokes. I'm Australian, thus, jokes about drinking and fighting, and all being the descendants of criminals (convicts) out of the UK. I take the words for exactly what they are, a joke, and not offensive to me as an Australian, even thought there is truth to them.

So, context. I'm in a bar in Thailand a a drunk guy nearby hears my accent and says to me, "You Australians are all criminal's. Why don't you go back to Australia where you belong?" Clearly that's not said as a joke, and he's looking for a fight, but the point I am trying to make is, the words are racist, but he hasn't offended my religion.

So here's the question, if I say something offensive in a bar to a Jewish person, and I anti semetic, or racist again Israeli's no matter what their religion?

There's a lot of racist people in the world, but they base their racism on country of origin, not so much religion. A lot of the time the people they are being racist to are also of the same religion. America being a prime example, with Christian African Americans. Of course, I understand the Middle East is a lo different.

I'm interested in your views on the "more than a handful of anti semetic posters" on this forum that you mentioned. Are they anti semetic based on religion (Jewish) or based on nationality (Israel) in your view? I doubt it's skin color. 🙂

On 1/18/2026 at 6:51 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

The real reason why the war is continuing is because Hamas refuse to surrender and step down .

Hamas are not complying with their ceasefire agreement and so the war cannot end .

BTW , what pile of rubble hs been bombed 3 times ?

I have some knowledge of the Israeli political system, but not a lot. Can you tell me, when will the next election be held in Israel? Can an election be held during war time?

Hamas will never comply until there is a two state solution. The world knows that.

As for what pile of rubble as been bombed three times, that pile of rubble is called Gaza.

On 1/17/2026 at 1:25 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

I just did websearch to find out and the protests in Israel seem to Orthodox Jews protesting about having to join the army .

They don't want to have to join the IDF is what they are protesting about , they aren't protesting against the war

That's old news. That was like, months ago. That's not what the current protests are about.

On 1/18/2026 at 7:10 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

Oct 7 th made Israel realise that the Palestine problem needs to be dealt with , a final solution to the Palestine problem

Some people in Germany uttered similar words around 80 years ago.

On 1/17/2026 at 1:07 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

Yes, that is the reason why Palestinians need to voluntary emigrate and to leave Gaza , there will always be terrorists whilst Palestinians exist on the land .

They gotta go

That's forced displacement. Illegal under international law. Why do you think Israel will get a free pass to do it?

9 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

That's forced displacement. Illegal under international law. Why do you think Israel will get a free pass to do it?

It was stated as being "voluntarily"

Voluntarily leaving isn't being forced

26 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

That's old news. That was like, months ago. That's not what the current protests are about.

What are the current protests about then ?

On 1/17/2026 at 4:25 AM, stevenl said:

This was correct 2 years ago, but not anymore.

I agree. Netanyhu went too far.

History will not judge the Israeli's kindly over this war.

19 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

What are the current protests about then ?

Published a day ago.

I had a chuckle at the "BiBi Escobar" sign.

Where are all the orthodox Jews protesting military service???? 🤣

10 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Where are all the orthodox Jews protesting military service???? 🤣

You asked me what the protests were about , I didn't know and I did websearch and the results came up about Orthodox Jews protesting bout military service and I posted them for you .

No need for you to be obnoxious and in future , do webserches yourself, instead of asking me

1 hour ago, KhunHeineken said:

Good post.

The subject interests me because if I had a close Jewish friend, I could crack a joke about "Jews and money" with him and he could crack a joke back at me and it's fine.

Crack the same joke on this forum and it's viewed by Jewish members as anti semetic, and possibly viewed by the Mods in the same way. Same words, same joke, same religion, same race, just different people and delivery method.

That is complete false comparison .

The anti Semitic allegations on this forum arent made to people telling jokes .

Its not friends joking with each other .

Its extreme anti semitic remarks , no jokes or banter .

"Jews want to kill all non Jews" is an example

Dear Nicky..seems like your sojourn in Laos has made you a rather bitter person..maybe tone the rhetoric down a bit.

33 minutes ago, couchpotato said:

Dear Nicky..seems like your sojourn in Laos has made you a rather bitter person..maybe tone the rhetoric down a bit.

I can assure you, my opinion of the Israel situation has nothing to do with my extended holiday in Laos .

I quite enjoyed my stay in Laos actually and I have gotten used to Thai immigration changing their minds

On 1/8/2026 at 12:58 PM, Evil Penevil said:

It is notable you regard the creation of a homeland for Holocaust survivors and the rest of the world's Jews to be a "huge mistake and evil act." The members of neo-Nazi groups would agree with you. Your opinion of Israel illustrates exactly why a Jewish-majority country is a necessity.

Not a mistake in itself but you " ate your half of the cake

and then started eating the other half "!

22 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

That is complete false comparison .

The anti Semitic allegations on this forum arent made to people telling jokes .

Its not friends joking with each other .

Its extreme anti semitic remarks , no jokes or banter .

"Jews want to kill all non Jews" is an example

Well, I've never seen a post like that, but that's possibly because it's been deleted by the Mods before I have had a chance to comment.

If I did see a post like that, I would post that I disagree, but in relation to Gaza, for the record, that does not mean I am pro Israel and anti Palestinian.

In my opinion, the way Netanyahu has prosecuted the war in Gaza, it has set back Jewry decades. It's a little like Putin when he took Crimea, with the west putting sanctions on Russia. Putin effectively put the average Russian back behind the iron curtain.

Netanyahu has caused a global flare up of anti sematism. Of course, his argument will be it's always been there, and in relation to the Middle East, certainly, but there has been a sharp rise in anti Israel sentiment in the latter part of the war. Notice I said anti Israel, not anti semitism.

Basically, people protesting the war, not the Jewish faith.

23 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

What are the actual protests about ?

I thought that was clear. Did you watch it?

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