For Europe, the repeated American demand for Danish territory has confirmed beyond doubt that the continent faces challenges from expansionist powers in both east and west. The undermining of what remains of Nato unity and shared purpose could bring Russia closer to feeling that it could succeed in the form of a direct challenge to a Nato member state.

It’s always been the case that Russia would only launch an overt, undeniable attack on a Nato member state if it had convinced itself that the benefits outweighed the risks – in other words, that it could succeed in isolating the victim, and the victim was not in a position to deliver meaningful consequences in retaliation. That task has become vastly easier as a result of the United States’s clear disinterest in the security of Europe; but still, Russia will not make a move until it is absolutely convinced that the US is out of the picture.

The more fragile those alliances, and the greater the antipathy of the United States towards Europe – with or without a direct confrontation with Denmark over Greenland – the greater the danger from Russia.

Russia’s ultimate aim is to destroy the Nato alliance, so that it can have greater confidence that it can tackle its victims one by one without risk of major allies coming to their aid. In that respect, the willingness of the US to pick fights within the alliance, risking its rupture without any direct challenge from Russia, could be the greatest gift to Moscow that the Trump administration has yet offered.

Putin will move on Europe when Trump has finished dismantling NATO

Not rite away putin isn’t strong enough yet and old Donnie is fading fast this abomination is on its last legs let’s just hope the damage can be repaired.

3 hours ago, bannork said:

For Europe, the repeated American demand for Danish territory has confirmed beyond doubt that the continent faces challenges from expansionist powers in both east and west. The undermining of what remains of Nato unity and shared purpose could bring Russia closer to feeling that it could succeed in the form of a direct challenge to a Nato member state.

It’s always been the case that Russia would only launch an overt, undeniable attack on a Nato member state if it had convinced itself that the benefits outweighed the risks – in other words, that it could succeed in isolating the victim, and the victim was not in a position to deliver meaningful consequences in retaliation. That task has become vastly easier as a result of the United States’s clear disinterest in the security of Europe; but still, Russia will not make a move until it is absolutely convinced that the US is out of the picture.

The more fragile those alliances, and the greater the antipathy of the United States towards Europe – with or without a direct confrontation with Denmark over Greenland – the greater the danger from Russia.

Russia’s ultimate aim is to destroy the Nato alliance, so that it can have greater confidence that it can tackle its victims one by one without risk of major allies coming to their aid. In that respect, the willingness of the US to pick fights within the alliance, risking its rupture without any direct challenge from Russia, could be the greatest gift to Moscow that the Trump administration has yet offered.

Putin will move on Europe when Trump has finished dismantling NATO

Are you claiming that Europe can’t handle Putin without the USA getting involved? Is Europe really this useless?

3 minutes ago, TedG said:

Are you claiming that Europe can’t handle Putin without the USA getting involved? Is Europe really this useless?

The author is saying that NATO without the USA is weakened, thus potentially emboldening Putin to invade one of the smaller states he covets.

If Putin wants to liberate us from EU tyranny, go for it Vlad.

11 minutes ago, bannork said:

The author is saying that NATO without the USA is weakened, thus potentially emboldening Putin to invade one of the smaller states he covets.

I rest my case. Europe is useless on the world stage. A continent of 450 million with a combined GDP of 28 trillion expects the USA to defend you all from a country of 146 million people with a GDP of 2 trillion. You guys need to get your act together.

Russia is not the enemy. They should disband NATO join with Russia to form a big enough trading block to counter the American dollar. This is the last thing the US wants that is why they demonize Russia to drive a wedge between them and the rest of Europe.

26 minutes ago, The Old Bull said:

Russia is not the enemy. They should disband NATO join with Russia to form a big enough trading block to counter the American dollar. This is the last thing the US wants that is why they demonize Russia to drive a wedge between them and the rest of Europe.

Do you work for Pravda?

8 hours ago, TedG said:

I rest my case. Europe is useless on the world stage. A continent of 450 million with a combined GDP of 28 trillion expects the USA to defend you all from a country of 146 million people with a GDP of 2 trillion. You guys need to get your act together.

Europe does need to get its act together militarily, it needs a fast and strategic decision centre for defence.

A small but strong European Security Council, a circle of the most influential countries together with the President of the European Parliament, able to decide for a coalition of the willing.

Europe shouldn't abandon cooperation with Washington. But it cannot permanently live on alert, dependent on moods in Mar-a-Lago.

Keeping the US within NATO is crucial — but only stronger European capabilities and autonomous decision-making will allow Europe to sleep safely at night.

Putin to move on Europe when Trump has finished dismantling Nato

• Putin is stuck in Eastern Ukraine for 4 years and has barely moved Westward, his troops have all deserted, and he's out of missiles.

• Putin is going to invade Europe any day now!
  
  You people absolutely crack me up! Comedy Gold!

6 minutes ago, connda said:

Putin to move on Europe when Trump has finished dismantling Nato

• Putin is stuck in Eastern Ukraine for 4 years and has barely moved Westward, his troops have all deserted, and he's out of missiles.

• Putin is going to invade Europe any day now!
  
  

• You people absolutely crack me up! Comedy Gold!

how many troops does Putin have currently fighting Ukraine? - Google Search

As of January 2026, there are approximately 700,000 Russian troops currently fighting in

Ukraine

. This figure, disclosed by Russian President Vladimir Putin in late 2025 and corroborated by Ukrainian military intelligence, represents a significant increase from the roughly 617,000 personnel reported a year earlier. 

how many missiles is Putin firing at Ukraine daily on average? - Google Search

• Early January 2026: In the first week of 2026, Russia launched 10 missiles and 789 drones, averaging roughly 1.4 missiles per day during that specific interval.

• January 9, 2026 Surge: A massive overnight "combined strike" involving 36 missiles (including the advanced Oreshnik hypersonic missile) and 242 drones took place on the night of January 8-9.

• Production vs. Usage:

  • According to the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine (HUR), Russia produces approximately 195 strategic missiles per month (roughly 6.5 per day), which allows for sustained long-range strikes even as stockpiles fluctuate.

  • Production includes 60–70 Iskander-M ballistic missiles and 10–15 hypersonic Kinzhals per month.

8 hours ago, TedG said:

Are you claiming that Europe can’t handle Putin without the USA getting involved? Is Europe really this useless?

Europe is certainly heading in that direction, if they don’t get it together rather quickly then Europe will probably be an Islamic nuclear caliphate in ten-fifteen years the way they let things get out of hand. Greenland is strategic, it closes the gap of NATO’s inept deadweight and potential failure in all out war breaks out.

8 hours ago, TedG said:

I rest my case. Europe is useless on the world stage. A continent of 450 million with a combined GDP of 28 trillion expects the USA to defend you all from a country of 146 million people with a GDP of 2 trillion. You guys need to get your act together.

You are buying into Trump's narrative though. The United States was the instigator of NATO at the beginning of the cold war - precisely to scare the Soviets then Russians from threatening the 'Western Capitalist Way." The many smaller Western European countries allowed the US to open bases and install mid-range nukes there. So all of this was for the US's interests - which were mutual interest for the smaller and weaker European countries. Britain and France developed their own nukes. Trump was right to get them all to pay more, but as far as I can see - the threat from Russia is greater now than ever before to the "Western Capitalist Way" - Putin's a mafia capitalist don - but he doesn't play by the same rules - he has none - a bit like someone else we now know..

5 minutes ago, novacova said:

Europe is certainly heading in that direction, if they don’t get it together rather quickly then Europe will probably be an Islamic nuclear caliphate in ten-fifteen years the way they let things get out of hand. Greenland is strategic, it closes the gap of NATO’s inept deadweight and potential failure in all out war breaks out.

how much of europe's population will be muslim in 15 years? - Google Search

Europe

Europe's Muslim population is projected to be between 8% and 12%, depending on future migration patterns. This estimate is based on established demographic trends and widely cited models from the Pew Research Center. 

Growth is driven by a younger median age (roughly 13 years younger than the European average) and higher fertility rates (2.6 children per woman vs. 1.6 for non-Muslims). 

Projections by Migration Scenario (2050 Targets)

Because no official 2041-specific data exists, demographers use 2050 benchmarks to illustrate the range of possibilities: 

• Zero Migration: If all migration stopped immediately, the Muslim share would still rise to 7.4% by 2050 due to natural growth.

• Medium Migration: Under "regular" migration (work/study/family) without new refugee flows, the share is projected to reach 11.2%.

• High Migration: If the record refugee flows seen in the mid-2010s continued indefinitely, the share could reach 14%. 

9 hours ago, FlorC said:

If Putin wants to liberate us from EU tyranny, go for it Vlad.

"EU tyranny"!

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

9 hours ago, The Old Bull said:

Russia is not the enemy. They should disband NATO join with Russia to form a big enough trading block to counter the American dollar. This is the last thing the US wants that is why they demonize Russia to drive a wedge between them and the rest of Europe.

The US isn't demonizing Russia, it's demonizing the EU.

2 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

You are buying into Trump's narrative though. The United States was the instigator of NATO at the beginning of the cold war - precisely to scare the Soviets then Russians from threatening the 'Western Capitalist Way." The many smaller Western European countries allowed the US to open bases and install mid-range nukes there. So all of this was for the US's interests - which were mutual interest for the smaller and weaker European countries. Britain and France developed their own nukes. Trump was right to get them all to pay more, but as far as I can see - the threat from Russia is greater now than ever before to the "Western Capitalist Way" - Putin's a mafia capitalist don - but he doesn't play by the same rules - he has none - a bit like someone else we now know..

It’s not a narrative that Europe should have the ability to deal with Russia.

10 hours ago, The Old Bull said:

Russia is not the enemy. They should disband NATO join with Russia to form a big enough trading block to counter the American dollar. This is the last thing the US wants that is why they demonize Russia to drive a wedge between them and the rest of Europe.

Russia is the enemy of the West. Russia should be demonized.

11 hours ago, FlorC said:

If Putin wants to liberate us from EU tyranny, go for it Vlad.

Hes not that much worse. At least his streets arent overrun with misogynist immigrants

5 minutes ago, TedG said:

Russia is the enemy of the West. Russia should be demonized.

Russia is a Judeo Christian country and is thus part of the West. They are still suffering from the effects of Socialism.

53 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Hes not that much worse. At least his streets arent overrun with misogynist immigrants

Russia is a Judeo Christian country and is thus part of the West. They are still suffering from the effects of Socialism.

• Whether a country is "Judeo Christian" or not doesn't decide if it's part of the West. Besides, old superstitions are on the decline in the West, and have been for a long time.

• They are still suffering because they have never been free to elect their own leaders, they've always been under the thumb of some type of dictator.

2 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Whether a country is "Judeo Christian" or not doesn't decide if it's part of the West.

What western country is not part of the judeo-christian tradition?

2 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Besides, old superstitions are on the decline in the West, and have been for a long time.

Religion differs from the culture that religion birthed.

3 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

They are still suffering because they have never been free to elect their own leaders, they've always been under the thumb of some type of dictator.

They had elections and failed. That doesnt change the fact that Socialism has prevented Russia from modernizing and becoming a productive part of the West instead of an annoyance