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US Considering Asylum for British Jews

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12 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

And @JBChiangRai do you now accept that what has happened in Gaza a result of what the Palestinians did on October 7th?

Surely you understand why Israelis are killing Palestinians, yes?

I accept that what has happened since 1940’s including what you reference is directly caused by the Jews breaking the Balfour Declaration and expelling Palestinians from Palestine.

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    Trump considering offering asylum to Jews in Britain is not evidence that Jews in Britain are not safe.

  • A feeling is not evidence it isn't safe. I do believe anti Semitism is on the rise, the cause being Israeli aggression.

  • Wait a minute, are saying you want all anti Israeli protests banned? Just forget Israeli genocide and lock up those who protest it? Palestine Action is a protest movement opposing Israeli government

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1 hour ago, Evil Penevil said:

No, I don't. Gaza is only an excuse for the normalization of antisemitism.

Exactly. Gaza is the latest excuse.

33 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Exactly. Gaza is the latest excuse.

You’re both paranoid.

43 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

You’re both paranoid.

You're in denial and ignoring history.

13 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You're in denial and ignoring history.

He makes his own history and reality up

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

He makes his own history and reality up

16 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You're in denial and ignoring history.

You think everyone is out to get you, all antisemitic, the very definition of Paranoia.

You both justify with never any doubt, all the atrocities committed by the IDF.

The world is not antisemitic, though much of it now despises Israel and the IDF. Get used to it.

19 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You're in denial and ignoring history.

You're ignoring the question about just what physical traits you feel makes a female Jew be recognized as a Jew (inside a UK nightclub). I mentioned the nose, you got upset.

And you're likely in denial about a Jew making up stories to play the infamous poor-me Jew card. 🙂

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2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Surely you understand why Israelis are killing Palestinians, yes?

To land grab for Jews via genocidal war crimes, crimes against humanity and illegal settlements under international law. The creation of Israel was the worst thing to happen in the 1940s. 🙂

15 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Attacking women in your playbook LOL. How typical anti semite

Jews have killed around 50,000 women and children in the last 2.5 years. 🙂

Decent numbers since they only number around 16 million or so around the world. But apparently many Jews did make killing women and children a fun-like sport. 🙂

17 minutes ago, Packer said:

Jews have killed around 50,000 women and children in the last 2.5 years. 🙂

Decent numbers since they only number around 16 million or so around the world. But apparently many Jews did make killing women and children a fun-like sport. 🙂

Well deserving Im sure. Is that why you hate them? Is that why you would happily support their eradication? Now are you just talking about Israelis or all of them? Do you even know what a Jew is? Are British Jews included?

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1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

You’re both paranoid.

The history of the past 100 years gives Jews very solid grounds for concern over those who want to eliminate them. Six million Jewish men, women and children- forty percent of the world's Jewish population and at least two-thirds of Europe's Jews- were wiped out between 1939 and 1945. That goes many steps beyond paranoia.

And what would you call people, some of whom post on AN, who are fearful of a Jewish conspiracy to dominate the world and who claim Jews control the U.S. government as well as international finance and media? Are they paranoid or thinking realistically?

How about this quote from this thread?

37 minutes ago, Packer said:

The creation of Israel was the worst thing to happen in the 1940s. 🙂

The Holocaust occurred during the 1940s. Do you agree the creation of Israel was worse than the Holocaust and World War II?

45 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

You think everyone is out to get you, all antisemitic, the very definition of Paranoia.

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The world is not antisemitic, though much of it now despises Israel and the IDF. Get used to it.

I absolutely don't believe everyone is out to get Jews; only the antisemites are.

And I will never get used to it.

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1 hour ago, Packer said:

And you're likely in denial about a Jew making up stories to play the infamous poor-me Jew card. 🙂

Did Jews make up the story of the Holocaust "to play the infamous poor-me Jew card?" Do you agree that six million Jews were killed between 1939 and 1945, of which about 2.7 million died in Nazi extermination camps?

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11 minutes ago, Packer said:

... and the Jewry are back on about the holocaust again.

My reference to the Holocaust had nothing to do with the girl's experience in a nightclub. It came in response to a comment by @JBChiangRai that said I and another BM were paranoid. I was simply pointing out Jews have very solid reasons for concern over those who advocate the extermination of Jews.

You didn't answer my questions, so I'll repeat them.

39 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

Did Jews make up the story of the Holocaust "to play the infamous poor-me Jew card?" Do you agree that six million Jews were killed between 1939 and 1945, of which about 2.7 million died in Nazi extermination camps?

Also, if you can answer this one: Do you believe the creation of Israel in the 1940s was worse than the Holocaust and WWII?

If these questions are too challenging for you, maybe another BM can help you.

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If anyone doubts the truth of the Jewish student's account of harassment, I suggest you read the 20-page report by the Union of Jewish Students titled, Time for Change: A Landmark Report on UK Campus Antisemitism. It was released earlier this week and contains a lot of factual information about the harassment of Jewish students.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2026/mar/16/antisemitism-normalised-uk-campuses-union-of-jewish-students

9 hours ago, Packer said:

To land grab for Jews via genocidal war crimes, crimes against humanity and illegal settlements under international law. The creation of Israel was the worst thing to happen in the 1940s. 🙂

He thinks the creation of Israel was the worse thing that happened in the 1940s.

Let that insanity sink in!

8 hours ago, Packer said:

Jews have killed around 50,000 women and children in the last 2.5 years. 🙂

Decent numbers since they only number around 16 million or so around the world. But apparently many Jews did make killing women and children a fun-like sport. 🙂

Jews did that you say?

So all Jews all over the world are collectively responsible?

7 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

Did Jews make up the story of the Holocaust "to play the infamous poor-me Jew card?" Do you agree that six million Jews were killed between 1939 and 1945, of which about 2.7 million died in Nazi extermination camps?

Of course virulent antisemitism did not start in the holocaust. It has existed for thousands of years and was the major rationale behind the need for political Zionism, a movement that started long before the holocaust. I attended the Inquisition Museum in Lima Peru which was mind blowing. I guess they were putting Jews on torture racks because of Gaza. That's the ticket.

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5 hours ago, Packer said:

Answer a member with a star of david flag

Would you feel more comfortable if I used this Star of David?

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Would seeing that badge be more of a positive experience for you?

29 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Jews did that you say?

So all Jews all over the world are collectively responsible?

The claim that rising antisemitism is the "result of what has happened in Gaza" rests entirely on the notion that Jews everywhere are collectively responsible for the actions of the Israeli government.

9 hours ago, Packer said:

Decent numbers since they only number around 16 million or so around the world. But apparently many Jews did make killing women and children a fun-like sport.

Seems like the Palestinians also killed women and children at one point.

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

He thinks the creation of Israel was the worse thing that happened in the 1940s.

But I can't grasp the history of these people.

Makes no sense.

This is from Quora.

Their original homeland was a "Roman Province"? So they never had their own country?

So if you don't own the joint, then you can get expelled. Which they did.

But how come they never had their own country to begin with?

So makes sense that they should have their own country, but the fact that they didn't historically before Israel seems odd.

https://www.quora.com/Why-was-there-no-Jewish-state-country-before-Israel-Why-are-there-so-few-Jews

There was also, at that time, no “Israel” as a country we know to day. There was the Roman Province of Judea. (Named JUDEA because it was where Jews lived as their ancestral homeland). When the Jews of Judea were expelled, the Romans renamed the province as Palestine (and also renamed Jerusalem as Aelia Capotilina) - the aim being that the land had been emptied of Jews. This is where the name Palestine comes from: the ETHNIC CLEANSING of the indigenous inhabitants who managed to return to their homeland c1900 years later.

8 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

The history of the past 100 years gives Jews very solid grounds for concern over those who want to eliminate them. Six million Jewish men, women and children- forty percent of the world's Jewish population and at least two-thirds of Europe's Jews- were wiped out between 1939 and 1945. That goes many steps beyond paranoia.

And what would you call people, some of whom post on AN, who are fearful of a Jewish conspiracy to dominate the world and who claim Jews control the U.S. government as well as international finance and media? Are they paranoid or thinking realistically?

How about this quote from this thread?

The Holocaust occurred during the 1940s. Do you agree the creation of Israel was worse than the Holocaust and World War II?

I absolutely don't believe everyone is out to get Jews; only the antisemites are.

And I will never get used to it.

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I agree the Holocaust was probably the worst event in the last century, sadly lessons weren't learned. The fact millions of Jews died is only part of the tragedy. The real tragedy is that an entire population could be brainwashed to go along with it. Lessons weren't learned. We are seeing the same thing now with MAGA and Republicans and we are seeing the same thing now with Israelis and Gaza Palestinians. Your own people here on this forum are freely saying that Jews are superior to Palestinians. The culture in the IDF allows them to target children, shooting them in different places each day. To shoot those seeking aid. I know you don't believe this, you say you don't, but I think secretly you know deep down the culture instilled in Israeli people is allowing this to happen.

Clearly, lessons have not been learned and to say Never Again is Today, Israelis must learn that lesson first. ALL people are created equal. There can be NO chosen people. Religion is another issue, I like to use my own test on religions, a test of goodness and modernity. Does all that a religion preaches meet the test of "goodness", does it past the test of "time". Approving things like slavery immediately tells me it's false. Treating human beings with inequality tells me it's false (Islam, Judaism, Christianity). A supreme being a jealous god, tells me it's false. A supreme being who needs to be worshipped, tells me it's nonsense. But that is way off-topic.

To answer your second point. Those who think of a Jewish conspiracy to dominate the world are mistaken, I hesitate to use the world lunatics. I suspect some of them are antisemitic, racist too. I do think Israel has too much influence on the US and I think it's time to cut Israel loose. Many analysts believe that will happen in our lifetimes. Israel has the ultimate means to defend itself.

The creation of Israel in the 1940's was a noble event. What has happened since is a travesty. Jews were supposed to share the land with those there already. All the bad things since stem from what happened afterwards. Until that is addressed, there can never be peace. The time has come for Israel to turn back to its founding principles, introduce sectarian government and share what it has with those it wronged.

IMHO, antisemites can be identified by tarring all Jews with the same brush, being against Israel & the IDF as I am does not make me an antisemite. I am happy to welcome any Jew into my home and share food with them. But if they support what Israel & the IDF are doing, I don't want to hear it.

9 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

Did Jews make up the story of the Holocaust "to play the infamous poor-me Jew card?" Do you agree that six million Jews were killed between 1939 and 1945, of which about 2.7 million died in Nazi extermination camps?

Many genocides are real, and every single one feels devastating and deeply personal to the people who are targeted. The same is true for Armenians and for the 43 other genocides that took place in the last century. Many of them have been forgotten, and some are still not even fully acknowledged or recognized as genocide.

Many of these ethnic groups are still being targeted, bullied, denied rights, and forced to live in exile.

Some are even afraid to say where they come from after settling in new countries.

Jews are not the only victims of genocide, but their suffering often receives far more public attention whenever an incident happens. That is the difference.

Has there been another genocide in which even very low-level participants, such as camp guards in watchtowers, were still prosecuted 70 years after the war ended? I understand prosecuting those who directly carried out atrocities, but not everyone was a top planner; some were part of the machinery and claimed they were only following orders. It will be interesting to see how history and the courts eventually handle Israel’s actions and the allegations of possible war crimes.

The world will never be fair to everyone, it is usually fair only to those on the side of power.

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4 hours ago, save the frogs said:

But how come they never had their own country to begin with?

So makes sense that they should have their own country, but the fact that they didn't historically before Israel seems odd.

The ancient Israelites did have a kingdom, two in fact, but these kingdoms didn't last very long.

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In terms of population, Jews weren't a large group and were split into tribes, which made it difficult for them to resist conquest by larger empires. After several heavy-duty revolts, the Romans drove the Jews out of the area we call historical Palestine and there wouldn't be a Jewish homeland or Jewish majority country until 1948.

You can read more about it here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Israel_and_Judah

and here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Palestine_region

On 1/19/2026 at 5:19 AM, Evil Penevil said:

That's a shocking headline. Apparently Jews are no longer safe in the U.K. as the government is unable or unwilling to tackle deeply ingrained and fanatic antisemitism. Listing Palestine Action was a good start, but doesn't go far enough.

US considering asylum for British Jews

The Trump administration is discussing the possibility of offering asylum to Britain’s Jewish population, The Telegraph can reveal.

Robert Garson, Donald Trump’s personal lawyer, said he had been in talks with the state department about providing sanctuary for British Jews fleeing anti-Semitism.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-considering-asylum-for-british-jews/ar-AA1UsfkW?ocid=msedgntp&pc=W230&cvid=696d57dd546e4ba18e2a9515aa327cc7&ei=25

Ev, I can't believe you think Palestine Action promoted antisemitism in any way by targeting Israeli war manufacturers in the UK! It may, however, provoked racists who had not acted out their antisemitism. You are a really reasonable person. Banning any nonviolent protest group, just as banning any religious worship, is unacceptable in a free society.

The US offer does not mean that UK Jews are in widespread danger. Don't fall for another of Trump's political ploys!

15 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

The history of the past 100 years gives Jews very solid grounds for concern over those who want to eliminate them. Six million Jewish men, women and children- forty percent of the world's Jewish population and at least two-thirds of Europe's Jews- were wiped out between 1939 and 1945. That goes many steps beyond paranoia.

And what would you call people, some of whom post on AN, who are fearful of a Jewish conspiracy to dominate the world and who claim Jews control the U.S. government as well as international finance and media? Are they paranoid or thinking realistically?

How about this quote from this thread?

The Holocaust occurred during the 1940s. Do you agree the creation of Israel was worse than the Holocaust and World War II?

I absolutely don't believe everyone is out to get Jews; only the antisemites are.

And I will never get used to it.

never again.jpg

Ev, please don't play the Holocaust card again and again. Intelligent people are horrified that could even be conceived of let alone be put into practice. But genocide is genocide. The numbers don't really matter. For example, IS tried really hard to wipe out the Yazidis, Tutus and Hutsis. It seems genocide will never go out of fashion. As posters on AN prove, there's a lot of hate here, paedophiles for example. The Hang'em high brigade.

But I doubt the Jews would be unlucky enough to draw that card again. Of course, Hamas & Hezbollah are evil (sorry!) but Israel is not going after them with any kind of precision. Just bomb them all! Can you really support that? Can you support the disproportionate responce of Gaza civilian, settler violence. There's a lot of hate going around. And any kind of violence is never going to solve it.

1 minute ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Ev, please don't play the Holocaust card again and again. Intelligent people are horrified that could even be conceived of let alone be put into practice. But genocide is genocide.

It's all he has left. As Israel continue to expand illegal settlements, kill Gazans during the ceasefire(600 now) and continue to attack Lebanon and Iran.

Crocodile tears 😭

12 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

If anyone doubts the truth of the Jewish student's account of harassment, I suggest you read the 20-page report by the Union of Jewish Students titled, Time for Change: A Landmark Report on UK Campus Antisemitism. It was released earlier this week and contains a lot of factual information about the harassment of Jewish students.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2026/mar/16/antisemitism-normalised-uk-campuses-union-of-jewish-students

I, for one, don't doubt the truth of this, Ev. Has it been examined whether this student antisemitism was occurring before Israel's war on Gaza?

6 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

Your own people here on this forum are freely saying that Jews are superior to Palestinians. The culture in the IDF allows them to target children, shooting them in different places each day. To shoot those seeking aid. I know you don't believe this, you say you don't, but I think secretly you know deep down the culture instilled in Israeli people is allowing this to happen.

Well said and so true.

2 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I, for one, don't doubt the truth of this, Ev. Has it been examined whether this student antisemitism was occurring before Israel's war on Gaza?

When did Israel's war on Gaza start?

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