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Dual Nationals Face New UK Entry Restrictions

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1 hour ago, Gaccha said:

There most certainly wasn't.

I suspect in your case, the parent was not a British citizen by descent but a British citizen born within the UK, or fully naturalized etc. "By descent" has a meaning not obvious and requires a reading of the law.

I strongly suspect you don't understand this key point and because of that on three occasions now you have failed to grasp the legal position pre-2006.

I'm sorry to present as a bit thick, I am not a lawyer, and the nuances of "by descent " escape me.

I am a British Citizen, born in the UK of British parents, all 4 grandparents were British. (Technically my paternal grandmother, who I never knew, she died before I was born, was born in Ireland, but that was well before Irish Independence.) I'm about about as British as one can get - hells bells, I even served a full career in the Army!

Lucy was born in 2005. I was at the time not formally married to her mother. A few years later we contracted a Thai civil marriage.

I applied for her citizenship as the precursor to applying for a passport. Her citizenship was refused. After that refusal letters, emails and even contact through a solicitor were ignored.

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  • Meanwhile people with no passport at all get a free bus from the dingy to a free migrant hotel and 3 buffets a day.

  • Neither does anything else @JonnyF posted.

  • youreavinalaff
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    Nope. You have a habit of thinking asylum seekers lead a great life. I assumed you'd like to live such a life. I wouldn't.

1 hour ago, Gaccha said:

There most certainly wasn't.

I suspect in your case, the parent was not a British citizen by descent but a British citizen born within the UK, or fully naturalized etc. "By descent" has a meaning not obvious and requires a reading of the law.

I strongly suspect you don't understand this key point and because of that on three occasions now you have failed to grasp the legal position pre-2006.

You've changed your story. Check your comments. First you say "by desent" then you don't, then you do again. You are unnecessarily confusing the situation.

30 minutes ago, JAG said:

I'm sorry to present as a bit thick, I am not a lawyer, and the nuances of "by descent " escape me.

I am a British Citizen, born in the UK of British parents, all 4 grandparents were British. (Technically my paternal grandmother, who I never knew, she died before I was born, was born in Ireland, but that was well before Irish Independence.) I'm about about as British as one can get - hells bells, I even served a full career in the Army!

Lucy was born in 2005. I was at the time not formally married to her mother. A few years later we contracted a Thai civil marriage.

I applied for her citizenship as the precursor to applying for a passport. Her citizenship was refused. After that refusal letters, emails and even contact through a solicitor were ignored.

Try now. Complete a UKF form online. From what you've said, there's no reason, now at least, for a refusal.

14 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Neither does anything else @JonnyF posted.

And yet you cannot disprove any of it and resort to quips and gaslighting.

Fascinating. 😄

2 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

You've changed your story

I relentlessly have made the same point. I'm not writing a "story". I'm stating a legal point.

And I've had to now state it four times so that even someone with special learning needs can grasp it.

2 hours ago, JAG said:

Her citizenship was refused.

What were the grounds for the refusal?

What precisely was the government response to the solicitor's enquiries? What did the solicitor recommend? Was any further appeal made?

3 hours ago, JAG said:

I'm sorry to present as a bit thick, I am not a lawyer, and the nuances of "by descent " escape me.

I am a British Citizen, born in the UK of British parents, all 4 grandparents were British. (Technically my paternal grandmother, who I never knew, she died before I was born, was born in Ireland, but that was well before Irish Independence.) I'm about about as British as one can get - hells bells, I even served a full career in the Army!

Lucy was born in 2005. I was at the time not formally married to her mother. A few years later we contracted a Thai civil marriage.

I applied for her citizenship as the precursor to applying for a passport. Her citizenship was refused. After that refusal letters, emails and even contact through a solicitor were ignored.

What is happening to you and your daughter is disgusting as is the apparent indifference of your MP.

This is a bit 'left field' but you mentioned that you have an Irish grandparent. Have you thought about applying for Irish nationality for yourself? If that were granted then Lucy could apply for Irish nationality in her own right: Irish citizenship (and an EU passport) offers as many, if not more, benefits compared with UK citizenship.

And now the disclaimer: I have no idea if this is feasible and/or practical and/or how expensive it might be.

Anyway, good luck.

4 hours ago, Gaccha said:

I relentlessly have made the same point. I'm not writing a "story". I'm stating a legal point.

And I've had to now state it four times so that even someone with special learning needs can grasp it.

You firstly used the phrase "by decent". Then you didn't. That's two totally different situations.

Your statement suggesting citizenship is not automatic with one British parent, no mention of "by decent", if the child was born prior to 2006 is false, as I pointed out.

7 hours ago, JAG said:

I applied for her citizenship as the precursor to applying for a passport. Her citizenship was refused. After that refusal letters, emails and even contact through a solicitor were ignored.

Why?

Your situation is exactly the same as ours. Our daughter was born in 2002. We were not married. We later married. We have never applied for our daughter's citizenship. We simply applied for a passport. Application accepted.

Why not just try for a passport?

If you don't want to go that route, submit a UKF form. It can be done online.

6 hours ago, JAG said:

I'm sorry to present as a bit thick, I am not a lawyer, and the nuances of "by descent " escape me.

I am a British Citizen, born in the UK of British parents, all 4 grandparents were British. (Technically my paternal grandmother, who I never knew, she died before I was born, was born in Ireland, but that was well before Irish Independence.) I'm about about as British as one can get - hells bells, I even served a full career in the Army!

Lucy was born in 2005. I was at the time not formally married to her mother. A few years later we contracted a Thai civil marriage.

I applied for her citizenship as the precursor to applying for a passport. Her citizenship was refused. After that refusal letters, emails and even contact through a solicitor were ignored.

Is your correct legal name on her birth certificate as father? Thai hospitals have been known to cock that up. Stories of male family members and friends being listed as the father. Then they send this incorrect information to the amphur and despite being obviously incorrect, it is set in stone.

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