6 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

One can be quite happy living like a pig.

As I’m sure you do.

3 minutes ago, couchpotato said:

And this statement is derived from your own living arrangements. So sad.

Damn beat me to it 😂😂

5 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

As I’m sure you do.

Wow. What a rapier like wit.

5 hours ago, couchpotato said:

And this statement is derived from your own living arrangements. So sad.

Not quite there yet, but working at it. Think of the pig in the local Wat. Garland me, baby.

12 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

Perhaps it wouldn't be so 'emotionally charged' if you had mentioned whether you are in anyway qualified to 'conduct or participate in medical experiments on simians'

Are you?

There's a clue in the original post: "where a layperson...."

I doubt most countries would just let anyone experiment on an animal just for the fun of it. There are probably specific laws governing what can and can't be done.

Any experimentation that is done is usually for specific reasons such as medical or pharmaceutical, and likely done under licence by qualified doctors and scientists, and the tests themselves, under highly controlled conditions probably take months, or even years to provide acceptable results. Also will cost a fortune.

What would you hope to gain with your "experiments" on a monkey whilst on your two week vacation to Pattaya?

I imagine there would be an uproar, and rightly so for allowing any so called "medical tourism for animal experimentation."

50 minutes ago, phetphet said:

I doubt most countries would just let anyone experiment on an animal just for the fun of it. There are probably specific laws governing what can and can't be done.

Any experimentation that is done is usually for specific reasons such as medical or pharmaceutical, and likely done under licence by qualified doctors and scientists, and the tests themselves, under highly controlled conditions probably take months, or even years to provide acceptable results. Also will cost a fortune.

What would you hope to gain with your "experiments" on a monkey whilst on your two week vacation to Pattaya?

I imagine there would be an uproar, and rightly so for allowing any so called "medical tourism for animal experimentation."

For sure there are many laws. These posts highlight the public's lack of understanding of medical research for both animals (non-human primates ("monkeys")) and humans. Experiments on non-human primates (NHP) and other animals must adhere to VERY STRICT regulatory requirements including strict ethical oversight, mandatory "3Rs" compliance (Replacement, Reduction, Refinement), and specialized care. Research must be approved by an Institutional Animal Care and Use Committee or equivalent, demonstrating no alternatives exist, minimal numbers are used, and suffering is minimized. And, yes, these requirements are strictly enforced if you want to be funded or to publish your research.

Human research is, of course, even more strictly controlled which is why all this nonsense about evil pharmaceutical companies and researchers testing dangerous and unknown (e.g."covid vaccines") products on the unsuspecting public is simply internet garbage. Be thankful for both medical research and the very strict guardrails that must and do exist.

6 hours ago, flaming dragon said:

There's a clue in the original post: "where a layperson...."

Thought as much.

I'm now beginning to think your avatar is in fact a true resemblance.

17 hours ago, Yagoda said:

One can be quite happy living like a pig.

The male pigs orgasm can last up to 90 minutes apparently with ejaculation itself lasting up to 10 minutes, Not sure if that would be a curse or a blessing

On 2/24/2026 at 7:28 AM, JAG said:

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Get your rocks off on the prospect of conducting amateur "medical experiments on sentient creatures do you?

Sick mind

The OP did not mention the nature of the experiments, It could be something totally innocuous. Strange how so many immediately assume the worst , Sick minds ???

3 hours ago, GiveMeAColdOne said:

For sure there are many laws. These posts highlight the public's lack of understanding of medical research for both animals (non-human primates ("monkeys")) and humans. Experiments on non-human primates (NHP) and other animals must adhere to VERY STRICT regulatory requirements including strict ethical oversight, mandatory "3Rs" compliance (Replacement, Reduction, Refinement), and specialized care. Research must be approved by an Institutional Animal Care and Use Committee or equivalent, demonstrating no alternatives exist, minimal numbers are used, and suffering is minimized. And, yes, these requirements are strictly enforced if you want to be funded or to publish your research.

Human research is, of course, even more strictly controlled which is why all this nonsense about evil pharmaceutical companies and researchers testing dangerous and unknown (e.g."covid vaccines") products on the unsuspecting public is simply internet garbage. Be thankful for both medical research and the very strict guardrails that must and do exist.

It would appear you also have an interest ? You should private message the OP and discuss things further. Wouldn't want members of "the public" eaves dropping would we ? then again , they would not understand

5 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

The OP did not mention the nature of the experiments, It could be something totally innocuous. Strange how so many immediately assume the worst , Sick minds ???

You are criticising us rather than the guy who wants to 'conduct or participate in medical experiments on simians'. What do you think 'medical experiments' in this case is - putting mascara on them?

22 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

I've just had another shingrix vaccine today I'll let you know if i get side effects, I know you're concerned

I've got an appointment to get that one back home. Shingles looks like an unpleasant affliction.

On 2/24/2026 at 1:20 AM, FritsSikkink said:

Jeez, how moronic can posts get

There is no limit on how moronic posts can get , why did ask?

On 2/24/2026 at 1:20 AM, FritsSikkink said:

Why not let your classmates experiment on you

Because presumably that might be unpleasant or dangerous,

5 hours ago, phetphet said:

What would you hope to gain with your "experiments" on a monkey whilst on your two week vacation to Pattaya?

Nowhere in my post does it say that I'm a tourist on a 2 week sojourn. I hope to test my hand with a scalpel and participate in something that the rest of humanity has played a role in, whether they acknowledge it or no.

3 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

You are criticising us rather than the guy who wants to 'conduct or participate in medical experiments on simians'. What do you think 'medical experiments' in this case is - putting mascara on them?

I have no idea , and neither do you

You should stop taking things so seriously, are you like that in real life ?

Are you using the word "simians" in an attempt to appear clever? or are you hinting at something more sinister,? after all humans are considered simian

1 minute ago, flaming dragon said:

Nowhere in my post does it say that I'm a tourist on a 2 week sojourn. I hope to test my hand with a scalpel and participate in something that the rest of humanity has played a role in, whether they acknowledge it or no.

would it be a one off ? or a series of procedures increasing in difficulty as you hone your skills? Maybe consider starting off with a dead monkey , to avoid upsetting the sensitive types on here

4 hours ago, GiveMeAColdOne said:

For sure there are many laws. These posts highlight the public's lack of understanding of medical research for both animals (non-human primates ("monkeys")) and humans. Experiments on non-human primates (NHP) and other animals must adhere to VERY STRICT regulatory requirements including strict ethical oversight, mandatory "3Rs" compliance (Replacement, Reduction, Refinement), and specialized care. Research must be approved by an Institutional Animal Care and Use Committee or equivalent, demonstrating no alternatives exist, minimal numbers are used, and suffering is minimized. And, yes, these requirements are strictly enforced if you want to be funded or to publish your research.

Human research is, of course, even more strictly controlled which is why all this nonsense about evil pharmaceutical companies and researchers testing dangerous and unknown (e.g."covid vaccines") products on the unsuspecting public is simply internet garbage. Be thankful for both medical research and the very strict guardrails that must and do exist.

A very articulate post, but there's a way around everything in S.E. Asia. One doesn't have to dig very deeply in the West, either, to find violations. Look at Fauci's experiments on Beagle puppies with sandflies (I think that was the bug). What consequences did he face? He truly was 'the science' as he bragged during covid, so that might not be the best example.

The search continues.

5 hours ago, phetphet said:

I doubt most countries would just let anyone experiment on an animal just for the fun of it. There are probably specific laws governing what can and can't be done.

probably best to start looking in the middle east , the followers of the religion of peace are not overly sensitive or sentimental about such matters Same goes for Africa, And as for China, probably not even necessary to limit ones subjects to monkeys

6 hours ago, phetphet said:

Any experimentation that is done is usually for specific reasons such as medical or pharmaceutical, and likely done under licence by qualified doctors and scientists, and the tests themselves, under highly controlled conditions probably take months, or even years to provide acceptable results. Also will cost a fortune.

So doing it himself without all the "red tape" would save both time and money, that's a win-win scenario, ( maybe not for the monkey) it could be a no-brainer

6 hours ago, phetphet said:

I imagine there would be an uproar, and rightly so for allowing any so called "medical tourism for animal experimentation."

The first rule of animal experimentation, is, " nobody talks about animal experimentation," (apart from this thread of course)

Craziest thread yet, and that's saying something.

1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

I have no idea , and neither do you

You should stop taking things so seriously, are you like that in real life ?

Are you using the word "simians" in an attempt to appear clever? or are you hinting at something more sinister,? after all humans are considered simian

Jezus, talk about not reading the thread. He used the word 'simian' and it's why I used quotation marks. That's how quotation marks work. It's a quote.

And I do have an idea. Look at his post above that says 'I hope to test my hand with a scalpel.....'. Pretty clear what his intentions are.

I will now accept your gracious apology.

1 hour ago, flaming dragon said:

The search continues.

Here's hoping you don't find it Dr. Frenkenstein.

2 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

I will now accept your gracious apology.

are you actually serious? get over yourself,

1 minute ago, Bday Prang said:

are you actually serious? get over yourself,

I'm not being serious. Of course I cannot expect any grace from you.

On 2/23/2026 at 7:47 PM, Yagoda said:

Monkeys are filthy, destructive and nasty little demons that should be avoided

Some would agree that all forms of primates fit your description.

Sadly the human variety demonstrates that "intelligence" is simply the capacity to be so at the extreme level.

That's why I stay away from the US and Pattaya.

4 hours ago, flaming dragon said:

Nowhere in my post does it say that I'm a tourist on a 2 week sojourn. I hope to test my hand with a scalpel and participate in something that the rest of humanity has played a role in, whether they acknowledge it or no.

Couldn’t you just test your hand with a scalpel on a cut of beef or pork from your local butcher? It would surely be cheaper, quicker, more humane, and a lot more convenient than finding a lab to dissect an ape.

1 hour ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Some would agree that all forms of primates fit your description.

Sadly the human variety demonstrates that "intelligence" is simply the capacity to be so at the extreme level.

That's why I stay away from the US and Pattaya.

Thats why I stay away from Europe, what a coincidence

16 hours ago, flaming dragon said:

Nowhere in my post does it say that I'm a tourist on a 2 week sojourn. I hope to test my hand with a scalpel and participate in something that the rest of humanity has played a role in, whether they acknowledge it or no.

Why not follow your heart and bump off a couple of working girls ?

19 hours ago, flaming dragon said:

A very articulate post, but there's a way around everything in S.E. Asia. One doesn't have to dig very deeply in the West, either, to find violations. Look at Fauci's experiments on Beagle puppies with sandflies (I think that was the bug). What consequences did he face? He truly was 'the science' as he bragged during covid, so that might not be the best example.

The search continues.

Cambodia has about a dozen farms breeding 'NHP' (Non-Human Primates) for export, for medical research. Crab eating macaques. Might be a bit out of your league though.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/charles-river-buy-cambodia-based-monkey-supplier-510-million-2026-01-12/

18 hours ago, flaming dragon said:

A very articulate post, but there's a way around everything in S.E. Asia. One doesn't have to dig very deeply in the West, either, to find violations. Look at Fauci's experiments on Beagle puppies with sandflies (I think that was the bug). What consequences did he face? He truly was 'the science' as he bragged during covid, so that might not be the best example.

The search continues.

Flaming Dragon - thanks for reading my post, but it seems that you still don't get it and quickly returned to adding more internet garbage about Fauci with absolutely no facts or personal knowledge (full disclosure - I do have personal knowledge having worked in US-funded medical research). Obviously, one can never be absolutely sure that some rogue "scientist" hasn't undertaken illegal research in some hidden lab -- but face the facts: a) the research would be illegal; b) the results could never be publicly acknowledged or used; and c) not 1 USD or THB of known public funds could have been used. How do I know? Scientific research, unlike religion and most other human endeavors, is self-regulating. Scientist worldwide are chasing very limited funding and therefore all legitimate science must be peer-reviewed before receiving public funds and the results must be peer-reviewed before publishing. Scientist don't want the funds or glory to be distributed easily and therefore are HIGHLY critical. They are sharks ready to attack any discrepancy. Read Harari's book "Nexus" for more information. Your nemesis, Fauci, is being vilified for political reasons. Did he sometimes authorize long-shot research? Yes, because he, better than most, understood that sometimes you need to solve problems by looking from different angles and, very fortunately for all mankind, was in a position to make that happen. Unfortunately, in doing so, he also opened himself up to unqualified politicians and randos from the internet ready to claim he was abusing puppies....