4 minutes ago, mymonkeyhusb said:

So for 47 years of death threats against Jews and Israel, along with real action towards that end, it takes the 47th President to stop the dangerous and inevitable islamic solution to their "Jewish" problem.

Do you really think the Muslim world will suddenly change its attitude to Israel? It is far more likely the attack on Iran will unite them.

Americans have seagull management down pat. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. Iran is next. It's the unsustainable cost of long-term logistics.

I would suggest routing flights from Bangkok to London via Johannesburg, Dangerous times ahead.

16 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Nope. Not trolling. I asked a question. What's your evidence that it was fisherman being blown out of the water and not drug smugglers? Obviously this has nothing to do with this thread but your diversion brings us here.

What's your evidence that it was drug smugglers and not fisherman being blown out of the water?

21 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

You mean it didnt work and bring down the Great Satan or there was an intelligence failure?

If you play the long game, did they gain what they were fighting for?

Regardless you dont think things are different now?

Intelligence failure of course, possibly something you are familiar with?

They succeeded in sucking America into unwinnable foreign conflicts. America is incapable of playing any 'long game' probably due to their short attention span, but mostly because Americans are decent people and won't allow it.

Not much different, no. I was originally responding to @riclag nonsensical claim about nobody doing anti terror counter insurgence better than Israel and the USA. Nobody's infallible. Not even Team USA.

4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Do you really think the Muslim world will suddenly change its attitude to Israel? It is far more likely the attack on Iran will unite them.

Americans have seagull management down pat. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. Iran is next. It's the unsustainable cost of long-term logistics.

I would suggest routing flights from Bangkok to London via Johannesburg, Dangerous times ahead.

Good question. Quite a few Muslim countries have condemned Iran’s missile strikes on neighbouring countries and US/Israeli bases. This seems to be a conservative response. Probably want to keep their own governments stable and appear as mere observers of the strikes on Iran; cautious about being drawn into direct confrontation with two superpowers. In otherwords, no pro-Iran Muslim bloc. Hearing in the news that the nearby countries are actually breathing a sigh of relief now that the regime who used to be the bully is really being dismantled bit by bit. Also these countries have to consider their economies regarding trade and Western relations.

I guess how radical the government is that fills the power vacuum will determine the attitude towards Israel. Seems like most Muslim countries were rather polite towards Israel. Were these Muslim countries sincere or just letting Iran do the dirty secret work? I don't know for sure. 5Do you agree?

19 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Intelligence failure of course, possibly something you are familiar with?

They succeeded in sucking America into unwinnable foreign conflicts. America is incapable of playing any 'long game' probably due to their short attention span, but mostly because Americans are decent people and won't allow it.

Not much different, no. I was originally responding to @riclag nonsensical claim about nobody doing anti terror counter insurgence better than Israel and the USA. Nobody's infallible. Not even Team USA.

Your support of Iran and against Israel is noted

8 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

Has anyone seen any report from a credible news source that contradicts Centcom's denials of U.S. casualties due to Iranian missiles?

According to the U.S. Central Command of the U.S. Department of Defense, three U.S. soldiers were killed during Operation Epic Fury.

Five other soldiers were seriously injured. “Several others suffered minor shrapnel wounds and concussions and are on their way back to duty.”

Peanuts for Trump... Let's see how others might think about it. And it just started...

1 hour ago, mymonkeyhusb said:

Good question. Quite a few Muslim countries have condemned Iran’s missile strikes on neighbouring countries and US/Israeli bases. This seems to be a conservative response. Probably want to keep their own governments stable and appear as mere observers of the strikes on Iran; cautious about being drawn into direct confrontation with two superpowers. In otherwords, no pro-Iran Muslim bloc. Hearing in the news that the nearby countries are actually breathing a sigh of relief now that the regime who used to be the bully is really being dismantled bit by bit. Also these countries have to consider their economies regarding trade and Western relations.

I guess how radical the government is that fills the power vacuum will determine the attitude towards Israel. Seems like most Muslim countries were rather polite towards Israel. Were these Muslim countries sincere or just letting Iran do the dirty secret work? I don't know for sure. 5Do you agree?

The Gulf States have to tread carefully. The Gulf States and Eastern seaboard of Saudi Arabia have substantive Shia populations. Bahrain has a majority Shi'ite population. The old Shah claimed Bahrain as an Iranian province, and so has the Islamic Republic. I was in Bahrain in 1981 when Iran invaded; it happened, it wasn't reported and I know the chaps who mustered BDF units to drive off the Iranians. But back in the day, when you wandered into villages like A'ali, it was pretty clear who they spiritually backed. The Shia was treated like <deleted>; I knew of good men in the Bahraini Army passed over for promotion because of their religion. The 2011 uprisings were Shia. Most of the police are Sunni recruits from Baluchistan or Syria, including Salafists. So much so, that in Hamed Town (basically cop town), ISIS flags were being displayed.

The Gulf States know, like Vietnam, the Americans will lose interest. They still have to live next to Iran. And Iran was just as bad to them when the Shah was about.

59 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

According to the U.S. Central Command of the U.S. Department of Defense, three U.S. soldiers were killed during Operation Epic Fury.

Five other soldiers were seriously injured. “Several others suffered minor shrapnel wounds and concussions and are on their way back to duty.”

Peanuts for Trump... Let's see how others might think about it. And it just started...

When concussions happened in Iraq, that meant service personnel left with brain damage.

23 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

According to the U.S. Central Command of the U.S. Department of Defense, three U.S. soldiers were killed during Operation Epic Fury.

Five other soldiers were seriously injured. “Several others suffered minor shrapnel wounds and concussions and are on their way back to duty.”

Yes, Centcom issued an update this morning. It saddens me enormously that these three men and/or women lost their lives and that others were injured. RIP and my deepest sympathy to their families.

Eleven Israelis are reported to have died as a result of the Iranian missile attack. Nine were killed when an Iranian missile hit a synagogue in a small Israeli town and two Israelis were killed in Tel Aviv. Again, RIP and my deepest sympathy to their families.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn5ge95q6y7t

Thank God not more precious U.S. and Israeli lives have been lost.

12 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Just taken out the number one Islamic fundamentalist terrorist is another way of looking at it.

It's that mode of thinking which will create the causes for the loss of this war. If the US wanted to win this war, they would have left him alive.
Trump and the US administration are too full of hubris to actually manage strategy.

12 hours ago, boganJoe said:

If getting precision-bombed into next Tuesday while hiding in a bunker makes you a "martyr" that magically revives the Islamic Republic, then explain why Iranian state media is doing the full grieving theater while people are reportedly celebrating in the streets, tearing down Khomeini statues, and the regime looks one bad Friday prayer away from imploding.

Ali Khamenei wasn't in a bunker, he was at his residence waiting to be martyred. Weak-minded, hubris-filled, ethnocentric Westerners who don't understand the first thing about Shia Islam will never understand, and as such, they lose every time. Instead they'll simply demean the Iranians as goat-herding, rag-heads and other pejoratives - and they'll lose the war they started. Hubris is the sword that kills they one who wields it.

3 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Do you really think the Muslim world will suddenly change its attitude to Israel? It is far more likely the attack on Iran will unite them.

Especially since Israel is knocking down missiles destined for the Gulf States

15 hours ago, alex8912 said:

Fear mongering much?? You actually stated Americans in Thailand should exercise caution! Like when high-fiving other Iranians maybe? Why don't you get off CNN and learn how positive today's actions are for the world.

I did not say the events were not positive. There is no fear mongering as I stated that the USA itself should be safe.

However, based upon past experience, US nationals outside the country will be at risk. Previously, Iran and its proxies have targeted US nationals in foreign locations. Germany has had a number of terrorist attacks and Belgium is a known center of Iranian regime malicious activity. Because Thailand has lax immigration screening, it is relatively easy for bad actors to enter. The Iranians in Thailand are not the educated anti regime Iranians one sees in the USA, Canada and UK, but are more likely to be part of the Iranian despotic apparatus, much like the Russians who holiday in Thailand are.

NY Times headline this morning:

The C.I.A. Helped Pinpoint a Gathering of Iranian Leaders. Then Israel Struck.

The killing of Iran’s supreme leader and other top Iranian officials came after close intelligence sharing between the United States and Israel, according to people familiar with the operation.

But that's a ruse. As with Maduro and the Houthi leader, they just followed the ayatollah's girlfriend.

7 hours ago, mymonkeyhusb said:

Good question. Quite a few Muslim countries have condemned Iran’s missile strikes on neighbouring countries and US/Israeli bases. This seems to be a conservative response. Probably want to keep their own governments stable and appear as mere observers of the strikes on Iran; cautious about being drawn into direct confrontation with two superpowers. In otherwords, no pro-Iran Muslim bloc. Hearing in the news that the nearby countries are actually breathing a sigh of relief now that the regime who used to be the bully is really being dismantled bit by bit. Also these countries have to consider their economies regarding trade and Western relations.

I guess how radical the government is that fills the power vacuum will determine the attitude towards Israel. Seems like most Muslim countries were rather polite towards Israel. Were these Muslim countries sincere or just letting Iran do the dirty secret work? I don't know for sure. 5Do you agree?

Iran has already declared the Strait of Hormuz closed. That;s 20% of the world's oil supply, affecting nearly everyone. I don't think that waterway can be defended from Iranian attacks.

You may be right, other Muslim states might not want to get involved.

Trump claims the operation will take 4 weeks. Given his record on Ukraine, color me skeptical. And what is this operation going to do to American debt?

This is when terrorist No.1 was taken out along with the senior leadership.

1 hour ago, JerryM said:

But that's a ruse. As with Maduro and the Houthi leader, they just followed the ayatollah's girlfriend.

So the NYT is lying according to you ?

46 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

This is when terrorist No.1 was taken out along with the senior leadership.

They waited for the bad guys to gather all in one place , months of planning . The leftist thought it was to deflect from their nonsensical conspiracy theories .

It won't be long now for Trump to start pushing for the reconstruction contracts for US companies.

20 minutes ago, phetphet said:

It won't be long now for Trump to start pushing for the reconstruction contracts for US companies.

Leftist are so fixated on billionaires , who cares! The state sponsor o terror,the regime is decimated. You and your ilk should be worried like the UK is with willy nilly terror attacks on whatever country .

I betcha he lets the Iranian people decide who's gonna lead their country barring any attempt of

instigating the old rulers wishes of killing Americans & Israelie's of course.

11 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Your support of Iran and against Israel is noted

Likewise, your intelligence failure.

35 minutes ago, riclag said:

Leftist are so fixated on billionaires , who cares! The state sponsor o terror,the regime is decimated. You and your ilk should be worried like the UK is with willy nilly terror attacks on whatever country .

I betcha he lets the Iranian people decide who's gonna lead their country barring any attempt of

instigating the old rulers wishes of killing Americans & Israelie's of course.

Let the Iranian people decide? He is already asking for a ceasefire, and the Iranians refused. Now it’s becoming clear there have unfortunately been some US military casualties he has likely started to get nervous about his ratings.

7 minutes ago, phetphet said:

Let the Iranian people decide? He is already asking for a ceasefire, and the Iranians refused. Now it’s becoming clear there have unfortunately been some US military casualties he has likely started to get nervous about his ratings.

Let the Iranian people decide where the country goes. Thats the intent being reported by the GOP surrogates. There was always expectations of casualties. Iranian regime is attacking innocent people with terror attacks as a result of the war to take out the sponsor of terror and your ilk are sympathizing & supporting willy nilly terror ..

“The Islamic Republic’s actions represent a dangerous escalation that violates the sovereignty of multiple states and threatens regional stability,” the statement released on Sunday said.

“The targeting of civilians and of countries not engaged in hostilities is reckless and destabilizing behavior.”

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/us-israel-iran-attack-03-01-26-intl

22 minutes ago, phetphet said:

...He is already asking for a ceasefire, and the Iranians refused. ...

Trump has made two mission statements, both from Mar-a-Lago, and neither include any mention of a cease fire offer being made or denied.

There's an opinion on Israeli media outlet Ynet, that's been posted on Facebook, where it is alleged that a US official says a cease fire offer was declined.

"According to a 2018 study published by Oxford University Press, Ynet publishes articles and interviews at the instigation of the Israeli government, without declaring any connection with the government – these publications aim to stir up pro-Israeli sentiment."

On 2/28/2026 at 8:23 PM, Summerinsiam said:

An idiotic decision, that has the fingerprints of serial war monger and criminal Netanyahu all over it. It was clearly not pr-emptive but a war of choice, with no legal justification. They did it because they could. While it will likely result in a limited conflict until Iran exhausts its missile supply there is clearly no endgame. The Americans never seem to learn, with the clueless Trump now following Bush down the rabbit hole. Even if he is dead, it will be meaningless, as he named four successors and will likely be replaced by one of them or hardline members of the revolutionary guard. There will be no liberal democracy, just like there wasn't in Iraq or in Libya, which is still a failed state. But of course, Bibi, who thinks it will boost his re-election and keep him out of jail, and Trump and his useful idiots Rubio and Hegseth think they know better.

You obviously don't understand what Iran has been up to for a decade+......know your history 1st, then argue.

4 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Iran has already declared the Strait of Hormuz closed. That;s 20% of the world's oil supply, affecting nearly everyone. I don't think that waterway can be defended from Iranian attacks.

You may be right, other Muslim states might not want to get involved.

Trump claims the operation will take 4 weeks. Given his record on Ukraine, color me skeptical. And what is this operation going to do to American debt?

I've been working very hard to avoid talking about the national debt. That nervous tick is coming back. My Prozac co-pays almost bankrupted me. All I can say about the national debt is summed up by staring at The Scream by Edvard Munch. The national debt's other name is the Big Bang of Stupidity. I think Trump knows there's no way out of it and is trying to keep us alive by desperately trying to grow the economy to stay ahead of the inevitable "time to settle accounts.”

Your reporting very sharp on this topic

Yagoda...we won't ask you where you get your

sources .

15 hours ago, dinsdale said:

An interesting argument. I do wonder though if the majority of people in Venezuela are happy Maduro's gone and the majority of people in Iran are happy the theocratic terrorist murdering lunatic is dead and want the rest of the theocratic terrorist murdering lunatics gone.

I do love this argument that MAGA is now using to excuse this war but as usual it falls down at the first hurdle.

So it's all about helping people now is it? The mighty US looking after the poor, downtrodden people of oppressive states? So should we now expect America to bomb Myanmar or North Korea or Zimbabwe or any number of the other hundreds of counties that kill and oppress their own people? This idea that it's being done for altruistic reasons is beyond dumb but then again, when you are running out of excuses to explain why the guy that promised ‘I’m Not Going to Start Wars, I’m Going to Stop Wars" is (surprise, surprise) doing exactly the opposite, then I suppose you have to grasp every straw that’s given.

The whole thing is a huge distraction for a guy losing popularity by the day and who knows he’s going to get hammered in the mid-terms and of course the other distraction he’s looking for, a little thing called The Epstein files.

54 minutes ago, fanof3d said:

You obviously don't understand what Iran has been up to for a decade+......know your history 1st, then argue.

I am well aware what Iran has been upto as you put it, and that it is a brutal, heinous regime. That does not detract from the fact that the attack had no legal justification, and in this regard is no different from the Russian attack on Ukraine. You obviously missed the point. The world cannot be governed like the wild west, by those with the biggest guns, and at the whim of the likes of Trump and Netanyahu. If you had any knowledge of history you would know what happened in Iraq, Libya and the rest, where US intervention has ended in disaster. History has proven that you cannot instigate regime change without boots on the ground. Its obvious that you have no knowledge of this.

13 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Your support of Iran and against Israel is noted

Israel is the aggressor nation. Those like yourself have spent the last four years telling us all how "Russian Aggression" against its neighbor is unacceptable, and then you cheer-lead Israel's war of aggression on its neighbors.

"Israel is just defending itself."
Well, Iran is defending itself.

Hypocrisy is pretty much the hallmark of MAGA, neo-cons and neo-libs.

14 minutes ago, Jim Blue said:

Your reporting very sharp on this topic

Yagoda...we won't ask you where you get your

sources .

He doesn't need sources. He just needs to repeat the endless Western and Israel propaganda and then state that the propaganda is "The Truth" and is self-evident, so no sources are needed as the statements of propaganda are in themselves the source.