Meanwhile another drone that got through-

Bahrain's Health Ministry said 32 civilians were injured in an Iranian drone attack on the island of Sitra, south of the capital Manama.

All those injured were Bahraini citizens, the ministry said early on Monday in a statement carried by the Gulf nation's state news agency.

Among them were children and four people were in serious condition, it said.

Bahrain reports dozens injured in Iranian drone attack

2 minutes ago, bannork said:

Meanwhile another drone that got through-

Bahrain's Health Ministry said 32 civilians were injured in an Iranian drone attack on the island of Sitra, south of the capital Manama.

All those injured were Bahraini citizens, the ministry said early on Monday in a statement carried by the Gulf nation's state news agency.

Among them were children and four people were in serious condition, it said.

Bahrain reports dozens injured in Iranian drone attack

Killing a few kids isnt going to save them.

8 minutes ago, bannork said:

Meanwhile another drone that got through-

Bahrain's Health Ministry said 32 civilians were injured in an Iranian drone attack on the island of Sitra, south of the capital Manama.

All those injured were Bahraini citizens, the ministry said early on Monday in a statement carried by the Gulf nation's state news agency.

Among them were children and four people were in serious condition, it said.

Bahrain reports dozens injured in Iranian drone attack

More reason to smash Iran to pieces.

8 hours ago, JerryM said:

U.S. Tomahawk Hit Naval Base Beside Iranian School, Video Shows

The evidence contradicts President Trump’s claim that Iran was responsible for a strike at the school that killed 175 people, most of them children.

NYTimes via

https://archive.ph/IJMSp#selection-547.0-551.148

A newly released video adds to the evidence that an American missile likely hit an Iranian elementary school where 175 people, many of them children, were reported killed.

The video, uploaded on Sunday by Iran’s semiofficial Mehr News Agency and verified by The New York Times, shows a Tomahawk cruise missile striking a naval base beside the school in the town of Minab on Feb. 28. The U.S. military is the only force involved in the conflict that uses Tomahawk missiles.

A body of evidence assembled by The Times — including satellite imagery, social media posts and other verified videos — indicates that the Shajarah Tayyebeh elementary school building was severely damaged by a precision strike that occurred at the same time as attacks on the naval base. The Times analysis of the video shows the missile striking a building described as a medical clinic in the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps base. (still shot from video)

The phrase “body of evidence” is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.

What we actually have is a video clip and a series of interpretations built around it. That’s not the same thing as conclusive proof.

First, the missile identification. The claim is that it’s a Tomahawk, but from the footage shown the missile is only visible briefly and at distance. Cruise missiles tend to follow a very similar aerodynamic layout - long cylindrical body, small wings, rear fins. Iranian missiles such as the Soumar look remarkably similar. From the quality of the video alone, distinguishing one from the other with certainty is far from straightforward.

Second, the impact sequence. The footage appears to show a strike on the naval base, while the school is seen in the background already producing smoke and dust. That doesn’t actually establish what hit the school, or even whether the same strike sequence caused the damage.

Third, verification of the impact site itself. Satellite imagery showing damage to buildings tells us that something exploded in that area, but it doesn’t identify the weapon used, the direction of approach, or whether the damage came from a direct hit, a deflection, or debris from an intercepted missile.

So at this stage we have analysis, interpretation, and expert opinion built around limited video and imagery. That may eventually prove to be correct, but it is not the same as verifiable evidence.

To be clear, I’m not claiming the United States could not have made a mistake. In war, tragic errors do happen. But describing this as a definitive “body of evidence” goes well beyond what the currently available footage actually demonstrates. At the moment it looks far more like a series of assumptions built around incomplete visual material than a conclusive reconstruction of what happened.

49 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

First, the missile identification. The claim is that it’s a Tomahawk, but from the footage shown the missile is only visible briefly and at distance.

From the linked NYTimes article:

Trevor Ball, a former U.S. Army explosive ordnance disposal technician, also identified the missile in the video as a Tomahawk, as did another weapons expert, Chris Cobb-Smith, director of Chiron Resources, a security and logistics agency.

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

1000 percent more than the hoaxers have ever done.

I wonder if your diversions can get any more feeble. I have a feeling you'll surprise us.😆

8 minutes ago, JerryM said:

From the linked NYTimes article:

Trevor Ball, a former U.S. Army explosive ordnance disposal technician, also identified the missile in the video as a Tomahawk, as did another weapons expert, Chris Cobb-Smith, director of Chiron Resources, a security and logistics agency.

Trevor Ball and Chris Cobb-Smith may well be experienced weapons analysts, but expert opinion is still opinion based on the available imagery, and the imagery in this case is far from ideal.

The identification hinges on recognising a Tomahawk cruise missile in a short, grainy video clip. But cruise missiles tend to follow very similar aerodynamic designs - long cylindrical body, mid-mounted wings, rear stabilisers. Iranian missiles such as the Soumar follow the same basic layout and at a glance can look remarkably similar to a Tomahawk.

So the question becomes: how reliable is that identification from the footage shown?

Even in clear photographs, distinguishing between different cruise missile models can require seeing specific features - wing geometry, intake position, tail configuration, markings. In a low-resolution video filmed at distance, many of those identifying details are simply not visible.

None of this means the experts are necessarily wrong. But it does mean their conclusion should be treated as an interpretation rather than definitive proof - could you tell the difference between the Tomahawk and Soumar or Hoveizeh - side by side - IMO it would difficult to even differentiate the Paveh cruise missile imagry of that quality (google them and see what you think).

It’s also reasonable to ask whether analysts commenting in a media context are bringing any institutional, political, or professional biases into their interpretation - something that happens in virtually every conflict.

In the end, we rely on the experts, but we should be capable of deciding if their commentary is completely reliable. Look at the images yourself and ask a simple question: could you confidently tell the difference between a Tomahawk and an Iranian Soumar missile from a grainy video clip? If the answer is no, then the certainty being presented in some reports may be stronger than the evidence actually supports.

I think more than any imagery - tracking information would be reliable.

If an investigation ultimately shows that the strike can be traced back to a U.S. launch platform, then the United States should simply acknowledge it, explain what happened, and apologise.

The tragic loss of that many children is obviously terrible optics and Iran will exploit it heavily in the information war, but that is the reality of conflict. Wars are chaotic, and even highly precise weapons can lead to tragic mistakes.

The important thing is credibility. If evidence clearly shows the strike originated from U.S. forces, the responsible response is transparency - explain the intended target, explain what went wrong, and accept responsibility if an error occurred.

That is far more credible than allowing competing narratives and speculation to fill the vacuum.

Modern cruise missiles - whether U.S. Tomahawks or Iranian systems like the Paveh are designed for precision strikes, but even precision systems can fail or hit unintended structures in dense environments.

IMO the real issue is not pretending mistakes are impossible. It’s how governments respond if a mistake is proven. Owning it, explaining it, and correcting it preserves credibility far better than denial in the face of clear evidence.

The truth here is more important to the USA and Western world than it is Iran - IMO.

18 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

I wonder if your diversions can get any more feeble. I have a feeling you'll surprise us.😆

I dont wonder if I will get the chance to show the intellectual vacuity of your posts, I have a feeling you will again demonstrate it by the mere fact of posting

19 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I dont wonder if I will get the chance to show the intellectual vacuity of your posts, I have a feeling you will again demonstrate it by the mere fact of posting

Oh my, your lame attempts at coming across as a MAGA intellectual (that's the ultimate contradiction in terms) is hilarious!

46 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Oh my, your lame attempts at coming across as a MAGA intellectual (that's the ultimate contradiction in terms) is hilarious!

I dont need to come off as anything or pretend to be that which I am not. Everything speaks for itself

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I dont need to come off as anything or pretend to be that which I am not. Everything speaks for itself

Good for you ! Never bow down or relinquish to people who support Terrorist ,its another 80 /20 issue.

372 / 425 or 87.5%, Our Congressional house voted overwhelmingly in your favor to condemn Iran as a state sponsor of Terrorism.

58 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I dont need to come off as anything or pretend to be that which I am not. Everything speaks for itself

It certainly does.

6 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

It certainly does.

Yeah I remember when you took off and hid rather than debate

1 hour ago, riclag said:

Good for you ! Never bow down or relinquish to people who support Terrorist ,its another 80 /20 issue.

372 / 425 or 87.5%, Our Congressional house voted overwhelmingly in your favor to condemn Iran as a state sponsor of Terrorism.

They hate themselves. They hate more successful people. They hate free speech. They view America as Imperialist so they support terrorists cause the right is on the other side. If the right said potatoes contained lots of carbs they would argue against it. They are just miserable.

17 minutes ago, khaosokman said:

They hate more successful people.

Thats the bottom line. To be a Socialist is to be a loser in the real world.

Just now, Yagoda said:

Thats the bottom line. To be a Socialist is to be a loser in the real world.

Correct. They live in cheap condos date some Noi or Lek thing then say Trump is a loser. It really is funny.

53 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Yeah I remember when you took off and hid rather than debate

Not sure what you are talking about. I normally try to reply to people if it is an intelligent reply. Maybe that's why I missed yours?

Unlike you I have a life outside of this forum, hence my posting average of less than once a day since I joined - I don't read everything, I just join in when there's something to counter and I welcome informed debate, not that there is much of it from MAGAstans.

I know you like to scatter gun the place hence a staggering 19k posts in a little over three years, most of them worthless jibes or vapid Trump worship, so no doubt you don't miss anything.

Please feel free to point out an intelligent reasoned post that I missed and I'll be happy to respond.

25 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Are you OK? What's abortion got to do with this (or anything else)?

If that's supposed to be directed at me again get over your infatuation with me. You started a completely random thread on a topic I have never once discussed on here and then tagged me for some unknown reason, so why do you think I'd be interested in talking to you about it? I literally have no idea what you are on about.

8 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

So the question becomes: how reliable is that identification from the footage shown?

From the NY Times link:

The Times has identified the weapon seen in the new video as a Tomahawk cruise missile, a weapon that neither the Israeli military nor the Iranian military has. Dozens of Tomahawks have been launched by U.S. Navy warships into Iran since Feb. 28, when the U.S.-Israeli attack on Iran began.

U.S. Central Command said a video it released of several Tomahawks being launched from Navy ships was filmed on Feb. 28, the day the Iranian base and school were hit.

2 hours ago, JerryM said:

From the NY Times link:

The Times has identified the weapon seen in the new video as a Tomahawk cruise missile, a weapon that neither the Israeli military nor the Iranian military has. Dozens of Tomahawks have been launched by U.S. Navy warships into Iran since Feb. 28, when the U.S.-Israeli attack on Iran began.

Understood - but I don't know 'how' they can identify the weapon as a Tomahawk from 4 frames of poor quality imagery - its impossible to tell the difference from a Tomahawk or an Iranian Soumar missile unless photography is clear.

2 hours ago, JerryM said:

U.S. Central Command said a video it released of several Tomahawks being launched from Navy ships was filmed on Feb. 28, the day the Iranian base and school were hit.

I think that is far stronger evidence than the imagery - which IMO shows an image of cruise missile, which is of insufficient quality to give a clear identification.

Video from NY Times article showing strikes in minab area

On 3/1/2026 at 8:17 PM, Yagoda said:

Here are my takeaways:

1. Soviet/Russian and by extension, Chinese AD is worthless in the face of mutli layered properly planned strikes. This bodes ill for Chinese desires to unify Taiwan.

2. Israel is our attack dog. If you are going to have an ally to help you do your dirty work, have the best and the only military in the world that compares is us. Maybe the Finns and ROKs and a couple of Brit Regiments. In todays world, Israel stands out. They are basicly doing our work (1200 strikes vs 900, they use air we use missles.)

NOTE: 24/7 air coverage has been announced over Iran. That means there is no AD at all. That means we control the skies.

3. #2 relates to point 1. Mossad is everywhere. What they dont know, we do. Im sure Kim is worried. Vlad isnt happy either.

4. Europe blew it. They should have joined in backslapping then extracted some concessions on Ukraine. Irans defeat helps Ukraines. Thats because there is no Europe, only feuding little countries.

5. Hitting Dubai was a huge mistake.

6. Saudi Arabia will have a peace treaty in a year with Israel.

I'm confused, do you support this illegal invasion?

Do you deny the US middle struck a primary school on the first day, killing over 100 schoolgirls?

All decent Americans I am friends with are totally opposed,vans a few of them are Jewish. They think the Israeli government is run by guys living in the 5th century BC, total lunatics, as is Trump. Yet, you seem to support him and Israel- please clarify.

Trump stands by claim that Iran could have struck girls’ school

The president also threatened attacks on Iran’s ability to produce energy.

03/09/2026 07:59 PM EDT

President Donald Trump is standing by his claim that Iran could be responsible for a deadly missile strike on a girls’ school even as U.S. authorities say they are still trying to determine who is to blame.

Trump said in a news conference Monday that Iran and other countries also use Tomahawk missiles like the one that struck the school in southern Iran in the initial wave of the U.S. and Israeli air assault on the country.

“But whether it’s Iran or somebody else, the fact that a Tomahawk, a Tomahawk, is very generic. It’s sold to other countries. But that’s being investigated right now.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/09/trump-stands-by-claim-that-iran-could-have-struck-girls-school-00820034

NB All God's chillun got Tomahawks

26 minutes ago, JerryM said:

Trump said in a news conference Monday that Iran and other countries also use Tomahawk missiles like the one that struck the school in southern Iran in the initial wave of the U.S. and Israeli air assault on the country.

Neither Israel nor Iran are known to possess Tomahawks, experts said.

It would also make the scenario of a single Iranian missile hitting the site at the same time and causing such a high reported death toll highly improbable, an expert told BBC Verify.

The Tomahawk is a type of long-range cruise missile that can be launched from submarines, ships and aircraft which has been in the US arsenal for decades.

US missile hit military base near Iran school, video anal...

A US Tomahawk missile hit a military base near a primary school in southern Iran where Iranian authorities said 168 people were killed, expert video analysis shows.

So now even Trump says it was a Tomahawk -- just that it was someone ELSE'S Tomahawk.

On 3/8/2026 at 8:33 PM, Jingthing said:

As far as your transparent anti-Jewish obsession, Israel's goal is clearly for Iran to become a failed state. That has nothing to do with greater Israel. Israel sees Iran as an existential threat and they're not wrong in thinking that either.

If you knew even a small fraction of what I have learned about your people during my three decades of intensive research on the topic, you would be one of those "self-hating Jews" that you sometimes talk about. Here is just one example, written by a Jew (a self-hating one, no doubt, according to you?) in a Jewish publication (perhaps a self-hating publication?):

We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

5 hours ago, JimCM said:

I'm confused, do you support this illegal invasion?

Do you deny the US middle struck a primary school on the first day, killing over 100 schoolgirls?

All decent Americans I am friends with are totally opposed,vans a few of them are Jewish. They think the Israeli government is run by guys living in the 5th century BC, total lunatics, as is Trump. Yet, you seem to support him and Israel- please clarify.

Do you believe Iran should be allowed to continue developing nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles?

Takeaways from the war on Iran.

When the POTUS proves beyond any doubt whatsoever that his dementia has reached the stage shown in this video, it's necessary to sit him down, strap him in and roll him out.

6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you believe Iran should be allowed to continue developing nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles?

Yes, as they have no intention of using them.

Do you think Israel should be allowed to keep theirs?