16 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Hamas/Palestine is doing everything in their power to eradicate Israel?

Sounds like a good way forward for humanity, global stability, and a move towards world peace. Perhaps it would be for the best? You don't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs. Sacrifices must be made. There are only 16 million Jewry in the world and half of them don't even live there. 🙂

There are ghost cities in China that could house the 7 mill or so Israeli Jewry. Start fresh, they can live in peace. Win-Win. 🙂

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

How come that you know so much about Israel ?

Did you take a four year University course in the subject of Israel or something ?

Grew up in New York, surrounded by Yiddish culture and Jewish friends of every stripe. Hot Jewish g.fs, too.

I like the rabbithole. So much left to learn.

5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

You can,t help yourself, can you?

More sleazy troll baiting straw man garbage.

I never said those with only a Jewish father need not apply you insufferable liar.

The conditions are widely published and I have posted them before.

Because of the ancient matrilineal tribal aspect of the Jewish people naturally that is reflected in immigration law of the world's only state founded as a Jewish homeland.

So its easier with a Jewish mother.

Others can and do apply including converts with no Jewish parents, non Jewish gay spouses of a Jewiish immigrant, etc.

I won't even entertain responding to your inflammatory insinuations about fidelity in Jewish marriages.

DNA testing is not illegal in Israel.

Jews have the right of return to Israel because they are Jewish people. Not a DNA test.

To add with Judaism different than the other major world religions, there is a tribal aspect thus not only a religion but also a people in the ethnoreligious sense.

Being different is not a rationale for hatred.

<deleted> off with the name calling, you git! No hatred from this boy.

Don't wanna educate me in your reality, well, expect to remain ignorant.

On 4/5/2026 at 9:32 PM, unblocktheplanet said:

A strategy ‘to make life intolerable’: Israeli settlers are driving Christians out of West Bank

The Taybeh community has survived crusaders and the Ottoman and British empires, but the latest attacks leave its future in question

Julian Borger

The Guardian:  5 Apr 2026

Taybeh, a small hilltop town in the heart of the West Bank is one of the oldest Christian communities in the world. After increasing attacks from Israeli settlers it now feels itself under siege and is fighting for its very existence.

The town’s ancient Greek name was Ephraim where, according to the gospels, Jesus hid with his disciples from the Jewish religious hierarchy, the Sanhedrin, before making his final fateful trip to Jerusalem.

A church was built here in the fifth century, and the entirely Christian community survived the crusaders, conquest by Salah ad-Din Yusuf ibn Ayyub or Saladin, the Ottoman empire, the British empire, and three Arab-Israeli wars, but its inhabitants say its long-term future is in question.

There are four substantial Israeli settlements around Taybeh have been set up by messianic Jews who send their young people, the “hilltop youth”, to harass and intimidate local Palestinians in the surrounding countryside.

The relentless land grabs and intimidation is a pattern repeated up and down the West Bank in a campaign the UN has called ethnic cleansing, which has been driven by hardline members of the ruling coalition, the finance minister, Bezalel Smotrich, and the national security minister, Itamar Ben-Gvir.

“First they kicked the Bedouin out in the last three years and put up their caravans and bring their cows and sheep. They are using the land without any permission from the owners and from ourselves,” said Father Bashar Fawadleh, the parish priest of Christ the Redeemer church.

After driving out Bedouin nomads and their flocks, Fawadleh said the settlers began to drive their cows and sheep into the olive groves and fields which have been Taybeh’s lifeblood for millennia.

“For three years now, we have been forbidden to visit our land. We are forbidden from tending the olive trees,” he said. Over the past year, the pressure has been turned up further. In July last year, settlers set fire to the grounds of the fifth–century Byzantine church, St Peter’s. Since then, bands of hilltop youth have raided the town four times, setting fire to cars, slashing tires and smashing windows.

After the attack on St Peter’s church in July, the US ambassador, Mike Huckabee, visited the town to condemn what he called “an act of terror” and to appeal for prosecutions. No prosecutions have been reported.

In the West Bank, the Christian population has shrunk from 5% of the total population in 1967 to roughly 1% today, about 45,000 people.

The fierce religious nationalism that the Israeli government has cultivated in recent years has largely been directed at Palestinian Muslims but there has been a rising tide of anti-Christian incidents. The Religious Freedom Data Center (RFDC), an Israeli-run organisation that documents such incidents in Jerusalem, recorded a 65% rise in cases of harassment, many of them involving spitting on Christians.

Jad Isaac, the director general of the Applied Research Institute-Jerusalem, which tracks the Israeli takeover of land and resources on the West Bank, said: “When Netanyahu says we are the only country which is taking care of the Christians, he’s a liar. He said that in Palestinian Christian communities in the West Bank “the strategy is to make life intolerable”.

So far this year, according to UN figures, there were 1,828 settler attacks on 270 Palestinian communities in 2025 – an average of five per day.

Israel now controls 87% of historic Bethlehem.

Religion, not money, is the root of all evil.

8 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Grew up in New York, surrounded by Yiddish culture and Jewish friends of every stripe. Hot Jewish g.fs, too.

I like the rabbithole. So much left to learn.

New York is in the USA though.

Israel is a different Country on the other side of the World .

How and why do you know about DNA tests in Israel ?

Having a GF in New York wouldn't give you knowledge about DNA tests in Israel .

41 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

<deleted> off with the name calling, you git! No hatred from this boy.

Don't wanna educate me in your reality, well, expect to remain ignorant.

You hear having a Jewish mother makes right of return easier.

You reply so those with just a Jewish father need not apply.

That is LYING.

Educate you? Is that possible?

41 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Religion, not money, is the root of all evil.

Exactly, but for religion, there would be no evil.

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Exactly, but for religion, there would be no evil.

Can't disagree with your thoughts.

Good and evil are not at all alien concepts to ATHEISTS.

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Good and evil are not at all alien concepts to ATHEISTS.

But for religion, there would be no atheists.

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

But for religion, there would be no atheists.

Ridiculous statement.

1 minute ago, emptypockets said:

Ridiculous statement.

How so?

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

How so?

How not?

Blindingly obvious to a thinking person.

8 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Your question assumes facts not in evidence, but to be clear, wars are won in any number of ways.

You cite the low number of Israelis killed by Hamas/Palestine as evidence that Hamas/Palestine does not want to kill more Israelis.

That is like claiming a team only getting a few hits prove they do not want more hits.

Your evidence is flawed same as your question. A sports event is not a war. You asked me if I think that Hamas is doing everything it can to eradicate Israel, which is a useless question as Hamas never was and never will be capable to do any serious harm to Israel as a country so I answered in the same manner, that they´d be more successful if they´d sell cars to Israel as there are around 20 times more fatalities in Israeli traffic compared to killed by Hamas.

But when I compared the numbers of killed Israelis to killed Palestinians that was to show the imbalance and the brutality Israel has and is applying on them.

My questions were:

23 hours ago, Somjot said:

But for the sake of the argument let's accept for a moment that there is no other way to deal with Hamas than destroying the whole strip, all the residential buildings, universities, hospitals, schools, you name it and the civilian loss is just unfortunate and definitely unwanted collateral damage.

1. Does that justify Hind Rajab, the five year old girl whose family was gunned down by the IDF while sitting next to her in that car and after she called her mother, begging for her life and the IDF finally granted the permission to two paramedics to go and get her and then went back and executed the five year old girl and slaughtered the two paramedics?

2. Does that justify the drones following world's kitchen and massacring the aid helpers?

3. Does it justify the murder of the 15 aid helpers, who were travelling on a permitted route in emergency cars with the lights fully turned on and then stopped by the IDF, executed and buried with their cars?

The IDF first denied it, later stated the cars were all dark but their lies were exposed by a video on a cell phone of one of the victims which he had taped before brutally being murdered and which clearly showed that all their lights were on.

4. Does it justify the shooting if starving people waiting in line to get some food?

5. Does it justify target practice on children, where they are shot in the heads on one day, in the chest on another and in the groin on the Third day??

6. Does it justify the huge number of journalists, nurses and medics slaughtered or that the IDF created the place with the most child amputees in the world?

7. Does it justify the regular raping and killing of detainees, whose bodies are sometimes given back to their families with organs missing while the rapists are presented in the media as true national heroes?

8. What does Israel do with those harvested organs?

Is that really your answer?

9 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

to be clear, wars are won in any number of ways.

So all these abominations are ok, when there is a war to win. Right?

45 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

How not?

Blindingly obvious to a thinking person.

Sounds like something leftist would say when they know they're wrong.

So tell me thinking person, how is it ridiculous?

5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Sounds like something leftist would say when they know they're wrong.

So tell me thinking person, how is it ridiculous

Religion doesn't require atheists or theists for that matter.

What point are you trying to make?

19 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Garbage Jew Hating Lies!

Where did I say Palestinians are simple Arabs?

DNA testing is not illegal in Israel.

Your attack on the tribal matrilineal aspect of the Jewish people which goes back thousands of years is explicit Jew hatred.

Yes Jews are different.

So what?

Do you know anything about anthropology?

Do you hate all people's with a tribal aspect or only Jews?

Most countries have immigration by ancestry. Do you atrack Ireland for that? Obviously not.

Also having a Jewish mother is not the only way to qualify for right of return. Just the easiest.

Not all criticism of Israel is Jew hatred but yours is.

Yes I said it because its true and irs disgusting.

You have some serious issues.

I was asked if Hamas is doing everything possible to eradicate Israel and I answered back that pre-October 7 an average of 20 Israelis were killed by Hamas attacks per year (while almost 7000 Palestinians are killed in the same time) so I guessed, they do not do everything possible.

What did you understand? Jew hate, despite the word "Jew" was never part of that conversation.

23 hours ago, Jingthing said:

So not enough dead Jews for your liking, huh?

I wrote that the Palestinians are genetically more indigenous to the area compared to Israelis.

You wrote:

"If you're going to determine which people have the "right" to live in Israel based on DNA studies, you're basically Nazi adjacent."

Again, I just wrote about being genetically indigenous but I wrote NOTHING about a "right to live in Israel".

You twist my words and try to turn them into something Jew-hating so you can call me Jew-hater and go on with your victim mode.

Just to make this clear, I don´t hate anybody and I don`t have any problems with immigration by ancestry.

It only gets problematic when people from New Jersey who never have been to the Middle East are granted a "right to return" because some grand grandmother in Ukraine was Jewish and are now living on land which was stolen from it´s lawful owner, who other than our New Jersey guy had been living on and from it for for multiple generations and interestingly was never granted a right to return.

28 minutes ago, Somjot said:

Your evidence is flawed same as your question. A sports event is not a war. You asked me if I think that Hamas is doing everything it can to eradicate Israel, which is a useless question as Hamas never was and never will be capable to do any serious harm to Israel as a country so I answered in the same manner, that they´d be more successful if they´d sell cars to Israel as there are around 20 times more fatalities in Israeli traffic compared to killed by Hamas.

But when I compared the numbers of killed Israelis to killed Palestinians that was to show the imbalance and the brutality Israel has and is applying on them.

I have presented no evidence.

If someone is attacked by ten men, does the fact that he can't win, prove that he does not do all he can to win?

And your claim about auto deaths in Irael is a lie. Fewer than 1,500 auto deaths in Israel in in the last three years, In the same three years, Hamas/Palestine

has killed about 2,300 Israelis.

For your idiotic claim to be true, over 46,000 Israelis would have to have dies in auto deaths.

How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you spew such idiotic lies?

28 minutes ago, Somjot said:

My questions were:

Is that really your answer?

So all these abominations are ok, when there is a war to win. Right?

You only asked me one question, and that question was: "Are the war crimes I mentioned also the only way a war is won?"

And I answered no, that wars are won in any number of ways. From that you claim I believe all abominations are okay in war.

You are not an honest broker.

8 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

How come that you know so much about Israel ?

Did you take a four year University course in the subject of Israel or something ?

The whole world has taken a very intense and effective course which started October 7 and by now sees the real Israel and how it treats countries and people who are not chosen.

No university with agenda driven views of history needed or Museums which are intimidated by organizations like UK Lawyers for Israel (UKLFI)which successfully pressured the British Museum in London in early 2026 to remove or amend references to "Palestine" in ancient Middle East displays.

Who would have thought that TikTok did the job, in which all the western media so spectacularly failed.

5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

And your claim about auto deaths in Irael is a lie. Fewer than 1,500 auto deaths in Israel in in the last three years, In the same three years, Hamas/Palestine

has killed about 2,300 Israelis.

For your idiotic claim to be true, over 46,000 Israelis would have to have dies in auto deaths.

How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you spew such idiotic lies?

On 4/7/2026 at 8:44 PM, Somjot said:

No I don´t because with an average of 20 dead Israelis per year (pre October 7) they´d be more successful if they go into the car industry (around 400 Israelis die in car accidents p.a.) or in the food industry selling them Kebab grilled on a charcoal grill, as Israelis main death cause is cancer.

Who is the idiot now?

16 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Religion doesn't require atheists or theists for that matter.

What point are you trying to make?

My points were:

1. Without religion, there would be no evil.

2. But for religion, there would be no atheists.

You agreed with my first point and claimed my second point was a "Ridiculous statement.". When I asked: How so? Your response was:

"How not?

Blindingly obvious to a thinking person."

So please, if it so "blindingly obvious", just explain it.

2 minutes ago, Somjot said:

Who is the idiot now?

It's still you

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

It's still you

Oh really?

Which part of PRE OCTOBER 7 did you not understand, the beginning, the end or more the middle part?

Any chance for an apology for unjustifiably calling me a liar?

15 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

My points were:

1. Without religion, there would be no evil.

He would probably still post here , just using a different handle .

8 minutes ago, Somjot said:

Oh really?

Which part of PRE OCTOBER 7 did you not understand, the beginning, the end or more the middle part?

Any chance for an apology for unjustifiably calling me a liar?

What you said was: "I was asked if Hamas is doing everything possible to eradicate Israel and I answered back that pre-October 7 an average of 20 Israelis were killed by Hamas attacks per year (while almost 7000 Palestinians are killed in the same time) so I guessed, they do not do everything possible."

As soon as you show Israel was killing 7,000 Palestinians a year pre-October 7 I'll apologize for calling you a liar.

When are you going to apologize for falsely claiming that I believe all abominations are okay in war?

4 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

New York is in the USA though.

Israel is a different Country on the other side of the World .

How and why do you know about DNA tests in Israel ?

Having a GF in New York wouldn't give you knowledge about DNA tests in Israel .

I read voraciously, Nick. I try to pick from everything.

As a pacifist, I am appalled by those who make war--for whatever reason--and sympathetic to its victims.

In my Yiddish-time, DNA tests didn't exist yet!

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

What you said was: "I was asked if Hamas is doing everything possible to eradicate Israel and I answered back that pre-October 7 an average of 20 Israelis were killed by Hamas attacks per year (while almost 7000 Palestinians are killed in the same time) so I guessed, they do not do everything possible."

As soon as you show Israel was killing 7,000 Palestinians a year pre-October 7 I'll apologize for calling you a liar.

When are you going to apologize for falsely claiming that I believe all abominations are okay in war?

I must be in kindergarten hell!

12 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I read voraciously, Nick. I try to pick from everything.

As a pacifist, I am appalled by those who make war--for whatever reason--and sympathetic to its victims.

In my Yiddish-time, DNA tests didn't exist yet!

So, going to war to stop Hitler from gassing Jews appalled you?

14 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I read voraciously, Nick. I try to pick from everything.

As a pacifist, I am appalled by those who make war--for whatever reason--and sympathetic to its victims.

So , you are appalled by Palestinians making war (after their Oct 7 terror attack) and you sympathize with the Israeli victims of that attack ?

2 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I must be in kindergarten hell!

No, you just have nothing of substance to say, so you are regurgitating an inane line you think is witty.