2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

How many Christians are living in "Palestine"?

This is the answer from the Brave Browser's AI:

According to the 2017 census by the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics, there were 46,850 Christians in the Palestinian territories, representing approximately 1% of the total population, a sharp decline from an estimated 8% to 10% in 1946. The vast majority (98%) reside in the West Bank, with nearly three-quarters concentrated in Bethlehem (23,165), Ramallah & Al-Bireh (10,255), and Jerusalem (8,558), while the Gaza Strip is home to only 1,138 Christians (0.1% of the territory's total).

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

How many Christians are living in "Palestine"?

Do numbers really matter?

2 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Do numbers really matter?

Only numbers that benefit the left, all others are to be ignored.

6 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Do numbers really matter?

Accorfding to Brave's AI:

"As of late 2025, Israel's total Christian population is approximately 185,000, which makes up about 1.9% of the country's total population. Of these, nearly 80% (approximately 148,000) identify as Arab Christians, representing roughly 6.8% of the total Arab population in Israel."

That contrasts with about 50,000 Arab Christians in the Palestinian territories. Draw your own conclusions as to why Arab Christians would seem to prefer to live under Israeli rule.

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

All the sudden, the left embraces God, how convenient.

Also, leftists (again, conveniently) always seem to have tons of friends, family and experiences that support their inane positions.

Left? I think that's an antiquated pronoun.

5 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Left? I think that's an antiquated pronoun.

Do pronouns really matter?

17 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

No reasonable person is “supporting the slaughter of civilians” in Gaza. That framing is part of the problem - it turns a brutal, complex war into a cartoon where one side is purely evil and the other is purely innocent.

According to polls 70 to 80% of the Israelis actually do support the war in Gaza the way it is fought.

And yes, Israel has always responded out of proportion:

17 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

The uncomfortable question is the one people tend to avoid: how exactly is Israel supposed to deal with Hamas? This isn’t a conventional army you can deter with diplomacy. Hamas openly calls for Israel’s destruction, embeds itself within civilian areas, operates from tunnels under homes, schools, and hospitals, and launches rockets indiscriminately.

That creates a horrific reality where military targets and civilian spaces are deliberately intertwined. It doesn’t make civilian deaths acceptable - but it does make them tragically difficult to avoid in a war Hamas itself chose to initiate and continue.

If Israel does nothing, it leaves its population exposed to repeated attacks. If it responds, it’s accused of disproportionate force. If it targets Hamas infrastructure, it’s criticised because that infrastructure is embedded in civilian areas. So what is the actual alternative being proposed? A ceasefire that leaves Hamas intact and able to repeat October 7? That’s not a solution - it’s a pause before the next round of violence.

None of this means Israel should be beyond criticism - of course its actions, strategy, and proportionality should be scrutinised. But pretending there’s a clean, consequence-free way to eliminate a group like Hamas, which is both a military force and embedded within a civilian population, is not serious.

You can oppose civilian suffering in Gaza and still recognise that Israel is dealing with an adversary whose stated goal is its destruction. Ignoring that reality doesn’t make the situation more moral - it just makes the analysis less honest.

Your posts are always very thoughtful and I am sure you mean well but you are clearly biased.

Because the way you describe it the whole conflict is nothing else but two nations fighting each other and as one of them is living in a very densely populated area there are unwanted fatalities and sometimes even innocent civilians get hurt.

I find it a bit cynical to justify the brutal attacks on the Palestinians by saying that Hamas wants to destroy Israel, while Israel is literally destroying Gaza.

Without using the term, you bring up the old human Shields thing were actually Hamas is to blame for all the civilian losses in Gaza, as all of this wouldn't happen if Hamas would meet the IDF in an open field.

As you can see from the graphics above in the years 2008 to 2024 there were in total almost 7000 Gazans killed by Israel while only 343 Israelis were killed by attacks from Gaza, that´s about 20 a year.

I wrote this just to put the threat to Israel into some realistic proportion.

Around 400 Israelis die every year in car accidents.

But for the sake of the argument let's accept for a moment that there is no other way to deal with Hamas than destroying the whole strip, all the residential buildings, universities, hospitals, schools, you name it and the civilian loss is just unfortunate and definitely unwanted collateral damage.

Does that justify Hind Rajab, the five year old girl whose family was gunned down by the IDF while sitting next to her in that car and after she called her mother, begging for her life and the IDF finally granted the permission to two paramedics to go and get her and then went back and executed the five year old girl and slaughtered the two paramedics?

Does that justify the drones following world's kitchen and massacring the aid helpers?

Does it justify the murder of the 15 aid helpers, who were travelling on a permitted route in emergency cars with the lights fully turned on and then stopped by the IDF, executed and buried with their cars?

The IDF first denied it, later stated the cars were all dark but their lies were exposed by a video on a cell phone of one of the victims which he had taped before brutally being murdered and which clearly showed that all their lights were on.

Does it justify the shooting if starving people waiting in line to get some food?

Does it justify target practice on children, where they are shot in the heads on one day, in the chest on another and in the groin on the Third day??

Does it justify the huge number of journalists, nurses and medics slaughtered or that the IDF created the place with the most child amputees in the world?

Does it justify the regular raping and killing of detainees, whose bodies are sometimes given back to their families with organs missing while the rapists are presented in the media as true national heroes?

What does Israel do with those harvested organs?

And their latest execution law, made for Palestinians only.

18 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

You can oppose civilian suffering in Gaza and still recognise that Israel is dealing with an adversary whose stated goal is its destruction. Ignoring that reality doesn’t make the situation more moral - it just makes the analysis less honest.

Your analysis of the war with Israel dealing with an enemy who´s goal is Israel´s destruction does not explain all the incidents I mentioned and there are so much more.

Let me offer you another possible explanation:

The Jews migrating to Palestine in the beginning of the last century had the clear goal to conquer it and create a purely Jewish state with no place for the Palestinians.

They maybe even hoped, the Palestinians would move to the surrounding Arab speaking countries, blend in and disappear.

We all know how that went.

When the Palestinians who had originally welcomed the Jews with open hearts realized their true intentions the first conflicts came up and three terror organizations, many massacres of the Arabs and one bombed British headquarter later the two state solution was offered by the UN.

The Jews happily accepted, took even more land than had been assigned for them, created Israel, murdered 10,000 Palestinians, kicked 750 thousand of them out and did everything possible that the Palestinians never got their own state.

Any resistance was brutally crushed while their territory was constantly expanded by more land theft.

Now any child with a little sense of justice perfectly understands that this is wrong and evil.

You cannot just go and take people's stuff and kill them when they resist.

There is only one way to explain and justify the inhumane treatment of the Palestinians:

Simply by dehumanizing them.

If you do not accept your opponent as a human sentient being but just something way below you, then you'll have no problem in destroying their homes and slaughtering their women and children.

Countless interviews with Israelis support this.

And that their democratically elected government discussed the right to rape and now passed a death sentence for Palestinians only law says it all.

2 minutes ago, Somjot said:

According to polls 70 to 80% of the Israelis actually do support the war in Gaza the way it is fought.

And yes, Israel has always responded out of proportion:

Your posts are always very thoughtful and I am sure you mean well but you are clearly biased.

Because the way you describe it the whole conflict is nothing else but two nations fighting each other and as one of them is living in a very densely populated area there are unwanted fatalities and sometimes even innocent civilians get hurt.

I find it a bit cynical to justify the brutal attacks on the Palestinians by saying that Hamas wants to destroy Israel, while Israel is literally destroying Gaza.

Without using the term, you bring up the old human Shields thing were actually Hamas is to blame for all the civilian losses in Gaza, as all of this wouldn't happen if Hamas would meet the IDF in an open field.

As you can see from the graphics above in the years 2008 to 2024 there were in total almost 7000 Gazans killed by Israel while only 343 Israelis were killed by attacks from Gaza, that´s about 20 a year.

I wrote this just to put the threat to Israel into some realistic proportion.

Around 400 Israelis die every year in car accidents.

But for the sake of the argument let's accept for a moment that there is no other way to deal with Hamas than destroying the whole strip, all the residential buildings, universities, hospitals, schools, you name it and the civilian loss is just unfortunate and definitely unwanted collateral damage.

Does that justify Hind Rajab, the five year old girl whose family was gunned down by the IDF while sitting next to her in that car and after she called her mother, begging for her life and the IDF finally granted the permission to two paramedics to go and get her and then went back and executed the five year old girl and slaughtered the two paramedics?

Does that justify the drones following world's kitchen and massacring the aid helpers?

Does it justify the murder of the 15 aid helpers, who were travelling on a permitted route in emergency cars with the lights fully turned on and then stopped by the IDF, executed and buried with their cars?

The IDF first denied it, later stated the cars were all dark but their lies were exposed by a video on a cell phone of one of the victims which he had taped before brutally being murdered and which clearly showed that all their lights were on.

Does it justify the shooting if starving people waiting in line to get some food?

Does it justify target practice on children, where they are shot in the heads on one day, in the chest on another and in the groin on the Third day??

Does it justify the huge number of journalists, nurses and medics slaughtered or that the IDF created the place with the most child amputees in the world?

Does it justify the regular raping and killing of detainees, whose bodies are sometimes given back to their families with organs missing while the rapists are presented in the media as true national heroes?

What does Israel do with those harvested organs?

And their latest execution law, made for Palestinians only.

Your analysis of the war with Israel dealing with an enemy who´s goal is Israel´s destruction does not explain all the incidents I mentioned and there are so much more.

Let me offer you another possible explanation:

The Jews migrating to Palestine in the beginning of the last century had the clear goal to conquer it and create a purely Jewish state with no place for the Palestinians.

They maybe even hoped, the Palestinians would move to the surrounding Arab speaking countries, blend in and disappear.

We all know how that went.

When the Palestinians who had originally welcomed the Jews with open hearts realized their true intentions the first conflicts came up and three terror organizations, many massacres of the Arabs and one bombed British headquarter later the two state solution was offered by the UN.

The Jews happily accepted, took even more land than had been assigned for them, created Israel, murdered 10,000 Palestinians, kicked 750 thousand of them out and did everything possible that the Palestinians never got their own state.

Any resistance was brutally crushed while their territory was constantly expanded by more land theft.

Now any child with a little sense of justice perfectly understands that this is wrong and evil.

You cannot just go and take people's stuff and kill them when they resist.

There is only one way to explain and justify the inhumane treatment of the Palestinians:

Simply by dehumanizing them.

If you do not accept your opponent as a human sentient being but just something way below you, then you'll have no problem in destroying their homes and slaughtering their women and children.

Countless interviews with Israelis support this.

And that their democratically elected government discussed the right to rape and now passed a death sentence for Palestinians only law says it all.

Do you not believe Hamas/Palestine is doing everything in their power to eradicate Israel?

Of course, it disproportionate, that is the only way a war is won.

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you not believe Hamas/Palestine is doing everything in their power to eradicate Israel?

Of course, it disproportionate, that is the only way a war is won.

Are the war crimes I mentioned also the only way a war is won?

1 minute ago, Somjot said:

Are the war crimes I mentioned also the only way a war is won?

You have to answer my questions first.

Do you not believe Hamas/Palestine is doing everything in their power to eradicate Israel?

1 hour ago, Evil Penevil said:

Accorfding to Brave's AI:

"As of late 2025, Israel's total Christian population is approximately 185,000, which makes up about 1.9% of the country's total population. Of these, nearly 80% (approximately 148,000) identify as Arab Christians, representing roughly 6.8% of the total Arab population in Israel."

That contrasts with about 50,000 Arab Christians in the Palestinian territories. Draw your own conclusions as to why Arab Christians would seem to prefer to live under Israeli rule.

Identify them as whatever fits to your narrative, but genetically they are levantine Canaanites same as the Christians in the West Bank and carry more indigenous DNA than those Europeans calling themselves Jews.

20 hours ago, Somjot said:

Based on genetic and historical studies, the inhabitants of Taybeh—like most Palestinians—are not descended from the Arabian Peninsula, but are rather indigenous Levantine people deriving mostly from ancient Canaanites and other early inhabitants of the Southern Levant.

Genetically they are way more indigenous to the area than Israelis, who have up to 60% European or Mediterranean DNA, which also leads to them having way higher rates of bein allergic to the indigenous olive tree.

7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you not believe Hamas/Palestine is doing everything in their power to eradicate Israel?

don't they have sophisticated drone technology that can target terrorist groups without harming civilians?

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

don't they have sophisticated drone technology that can target terrorist groups without harming civilians?

In the movies perhaps. How do the drones tell the terrorist from the civilians?

3 minutes ago, Somjot said:

Identify them as whatever fits to your narrative, but genetically they are levantine Canaanites same as the Christians in the West Bank and carry more indigenous DNA than those Europeans calling themselves Jews.

Do you not believe Hamas/Palestine is doing everything in their power to eradicate Israel?

8 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You have to answer my questions first.

Do you not believe Hamas/Palestine is doing everything in their power to eradicate Israel?

No I don´t because with an average of 20 dead Israelis per year (pre October 7) they´d be more successful if they go into the car industry (around 400 Israelis die in car accidents p.a.) or in the food industry selling them Kebab grilled on a charcoal grill, as Israelis main death cause is cancer.

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

In the movies perhaps. How do the drones tell the terrorist from the civilians?

Exactly!

The IDF never bothered; they just fired on anything moving.

Most moral army in the world.

3 minutes ago, Somjot said:

No I don´t because with an average of 20 dead Israelis per year (pre October 7) they´d be more successful if they go into the car industry (around 400 Israelis die in car accidents p.a.) or in the food industry selling them Kebab grilled on a charcoal grill, as Israelis main death cause is cancer.

It is your position that Hamas/Palestine are not trying to kill as many Israelis as they can?

Why?

5 minutes ago, Somjot said:

No I don´t because with an average of 20 dead Israelis per year (pre October 7) they´d be more successful if they go into the car industry (around 400 Israelis die in car accidents p.a.) or in the food industry selling them Kebab grilled on a charcoal grill, as Israelis main death cause is cancer.

So not enough dead Jews for your liking, huh?

3 minutes ago, Somjot said:

Exactly!

The IDF never bothered; they just fired on anything moving.

Most moral army in the world.

It is your position that everyone that moves in Gaza is fired upon? I think that hard to believe given the relatively small number of casualties.

5 minutes ago, Somjot said:

Exactly!

The IDF never bothered; they just fired on anything moving.

Most moral army in the world.

It's my impression that the Israeli government stopped even trying to promote good PR internationally quite a while ago.

If you're going to determine which people have the "right" to live in Israel based on DNA studies, you're basically Nazi adjacent.

The ancient connection between Israel and the Jews is an irrefutable FACT.

2 hours ago, Somjot said:

Are the war crimes I mentioned also the only way a war is won?

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

You have to answer my questions first.

Do you not believe Hamas/Palestine is doing everything in their power to eradicate Israel?

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

It is your position that Hamas/Palestine are not trying to kill as many Israelis as they can?

Why?

I answered your question. Now don´t you think you should answer my question before asking another one?

I don´t think anyone is trying to kill as much opponents as they can, especially as both sides have shown repeatedly that they do not really care about the lives of their own kin except for PR reasons. "Give back the hostages and everything will stop" Yeah, my "where the sun never shines"

Hamas happily sacrifices kids by attaching explosives to them and Israel has the Hannibal directive.

The Palestinians were promised their own country by the British in exchange for fighting the Ottomans, so around 70.000 of them successfully fought the Ottomans, Thousands died but at the end they were betrayed and instead of their own country they got Jewish immigrants, who did not shed a single drop of blood to free Palestine from the Ottomans and 30 years later with the help of the UN cut a huge chunk out of it and created their own Jewish nation state, while actively preventing the creation of a Palestinian one.

Simply said, they just want their land back.

It is debatable if the land the UN suggested for the Jews in their partition plan, can be seen as theirs but according to international law every inch they occupied since 1967 belongs to the Palestinians.

FACT.

The Jews may have an ancient connection to the area but that goes for many people who lived there before them and after them.

Nevertheless ancient connection does not equal ownership.

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you not believe Hamas/Palestine is doing everything in their power to eradicate Israel?

2 hours ago, Somjot said:

No I don´t because with an average of 20 dead Israelis per year (pre October 7) they´d be more successful if they go into the car industry (around 400 Israelis die in car accidents p.a.) or in the food industry selling them Kebab grilled on a charcoal grill, as Israelis main death cause is cancer.

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

So not enough dead Jews for your liking, huh?

Are you really trying this childish mind gymnastics on me? Try harder.

I was asked if I think that Hamas is doing everything they can to end Israel and I answered no, pointing out the relatively low numbers of killed Israelis compared to killed Palestinians or deceased in car accidents.

And you try to translate my answer into "they should kill more Jews", which is not only intentional misinterpreting my post but also a blatant lie as it was about Israel and Israelis and not about Jews.

Shows your true character.

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

If you're going to determine which people have the "right" to live in Israel based on DNA studies, you're basically Nazi adjacent.

The ancient connection between Israel and the Jews is an irrefutable FACT.

And you do it again.

Where did I write anything about the "right" to live in Israel?

You and others tried to describe the Palestinians as simple Arabs so I just mentioned a few scientific results from DNA tests.

2 hours ago, Somjot said:

Based on genetic and historical studies, the inhabitants of Taybeh—like most Palestinians—are not descended from the Arabian Peninsula, but are rather indigenous Levantine people deriving mostly from ancient Canaanites and other early inhabitants of the Southern Levant.

It is rather the people YOU side with who are basing their so called "right" to live there on DNA.

Not by DNA testing but by maternal blood line.

Which comes pretty close to racism as you can only belong to the chosen people and inherit a "right to return" (even if you are not really returning as you have never previously been there) by birth.

So you might want to be a bit careful with those Nazi allegations.

Hm, I wonder why DNA tests are forbidden in Israel.

Wouldn´t it be great to add some scientific proof to that mystic ancient connection thing your "right" to live there is based on?

Why oh why?

36 minutes ago, Somjot said:

It is rather the people YOU side with who are basing their so called "right" to live there on DNA.

Not by DNA testing but by maternal blood line.

Which comes pretty close to racism as you can only belong to the chosen people and inherit a "right to return" (even if you are not really returning as you have never previously been there) by birth.

So you might want to be a bit careful with those Nazi allegations.

Hm, I wonder why DNA tests are forbidden in Israel.

Learn something new shameful every day. Guess we know why now. Eugenic non-disclosure?

DNA tests are not banned or illegal in Israel. Instead, genetic testing is tightly regulated under the Genetic Information Law of 2000 to protect privacy, ensure medical accuracy, and manage sensitive legal issues regarding family status and religious law.

Direct-to-consumer DNA tests are not sold directly in Israel. Some international companies may not ship to Israel, or may not allow samples to be shipped from there, due to the strict regulatory environment. However, this is a matter of regulation and market access, not a criminal ban.

40 minutes ago, Somjot said:

And you do it again.

Where did I write anything about the "right" to live in Israel?

You and others tried to describe the Palestinians as simple Arabs so I just mentioned a few scientific results from DNA tests.

It is rather the people YOU side with who are basing their so called "right" to live there on DNA.

Not by DNA testing but by maternal blood line.

Which comes pretty close to racism as you can only belong to the chosen people and inherit a "right to return" (even if you are not really returning as you have never previously been there) by birth.

So you might want to be a bit careful with those Nazi allegations.

Hm, I wonder why DNA tests are forbidden in Israel.

Wouldn´t it be great to add some scientific proof to that mystic ancient connection thing your "right" to live there is based on?

Why oh why?

Garbage Jew Hating Lies!

Where did I say Palestinians are simple Arabs?

DNA testing is not illegal in Israel.

Your attack on the tribal matrilineal aspect of the Jewish people which goes back thousands of years is explicit Jew hatred.

Yes Jews are different.

So what?

Do you know anything about anthropology?

Do you hate all people's with a tribal aspect or only Jews?

Most countries have immigration by ancestry. Do you atrack Ireland for that? Obviously not.

Also having a Jewish mother is not the only way to qualify for right of return. Just the easiest.

Not all criticism of Israel is Jew hatred but yours is.

Yes I said it because its true and irs disgusting.

11 hours ago, Somjot said:

I answered your question. Now don´t you think you should answer my question before asking another one?

I don´t think anyone is trying to kill as much opponents as they can, especially as both sides have shown repeatedly that they do not really care about the lives of their own kin except for PR reasons. "Give back the hostages and everything will stop" Yeah, my "where the sun never shines"

Hamas happily sacrifices kids by attaching explosives to them and Israel has the Hannibal directive.

The Palestinians were promised their own country by the British in exchange for fighting the Ottomans, so around 70.000 of them successfully fought the Ottomans, Thousands died but at the end they were betrayed and instead of their own country they got Jewish immigrants, who did not shed a single drop of blood to free Palestine from the Ottomans and 30 years later with the help of the UN cut a huge chunk out of it and created their own Jewish nation state, while actively preventing the creation of a Palestinian one.

Simply said, they just want their land back.

It is debatable if the land the UN suggested for the Jews in their partition plan, can be seen as theirs but according to international law every inch they occupied since 1967 belongs to the Palestinians.

FACT.

The Jews may have an ancient connection to the area but that goes for many people who lived there before them and after them.

Nevertheless ancient connection does not equal ownership.

Your question assumes facts not in evidence, but to be clear, wars are won in any number of ways.

You cite the low number of Israelis killed by Hamas/Palestine as evidence that Hamas/Palestine does not want to kill more Israelis.

That is like claiming a team only getting a few hits prove they do not want more hits.

10 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Garbage Jew Hating Lies!

Where did I say Palestinians are simple Arabs?

DNA testing is not illegal in Israel.

Your attack on the tribal matrilineal aspect of the Jewish people which goes back thousands of years is explicit Jew hatred.

Yes Jews are different.

So what?

Do you know anything about anthropology?

Do you hate all people's with a tribal aspect or only Jews?

Most countries have immigration by ancestry. Do you atrack Ireland for that? Obviously not.

Also having a Jewish mother is not the only way to qualify for right of return. Just the easiest.

Not all criticism of Israel is Jew hatred but yours is.

Yes I said it because its true and irs disgusting.

Quite enough hyperbole for the morning, Jing. Shouting won't make your point netter than a whisper.

The entire reason for matrilineal descent is so that paternity is not important. In patrilineal societies, the majority, Daddy wants to know who his sprog is. Perhaps Jewish marriages are so cohesive that would never come into question. To talk openly about it is in no way "Jew hatred".

I have already commented on Israel's restriction of DNA testing. Weird--right? In the other DNA-refusenik countries: France, Germany, Swtizerland, the goal is to protect paternity. It would seem to be the opposite in Israel. Any light you can shed on this might get to the truth.

The countries with citizenship-by-descent always include father or mother. Are you saying that Israel's right-of-return depends on a Jewish matriaarch? Those with Jewish father and goyim mothers need not apply? What other conditions might gain right of return?

In any case, Jing, don't give yourself an aneurysm. AN posters likely aren't the end of the world. Wait!

47 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Quite enough hyperbole for the morning, Jing. Shouting won't make your point netter than a whisper.

The entire reason for matrilineal descent is so that paternity is not important. In patrilineal societies, the majority, Daddy wants to know who his sprog is. Perhaps Jewish marriages are so cohesive that would never come into question. To talk openly about it is in no way "Jew hatred".

I have already commented on Israel's restriction of DNA testing. Weird--right? In the other DNA-refusenik countries: France, Germany, Swtizerland, the goal is to protect paternity. It would seem to be the opposite in Israel. Any light you can shed on this might get to the truth.

The countries with citizenship-by-descent always include father or mother. Are you saying that Israel's right-of-return depends on a Jewish matriaarch? Those with Jewish father and goyim mothers need not apply? What other conditions might gain right of return?

In any case, Jing, don't give yourself an aneurysm. AN posters likely aren't the end of the world. Wait!

You can,t help yourself, can you?

More sleazy troll baiting straw man garbage.

I never said those with only a Jewish father need not apply you insufferable liar.

The conditions are widely published and I have posted them before.

Because of the ancient matrilineal tribal aspect of the Jewish people naturally that is reflected in immigration law of the world's only state founded as a Jewish homeland.

So its easier with a Jewish mother.

Others can and do apply including converts with no Jewish parents, non Jewish gay spouses of a Jewiish immigrant, etc.

I won't even entertain responding to your inflammatory insinuations about fidelity in Jewish marriages.

DNA testing is not illegal in Israel.

Jews have the right of return to Israel because they are Jewish people. Not a DNA test.

To add with Judaism different than the other major world religions, there is a tribal aspect thus not only a religion but also a people in the ethnoreligious sense.

Being different is not a rationale for hatred.

12 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Learn something new shameful every day. Guess we know why now. Eugenic non-disclosure?

DNA tests are not banned or illegal in Israel. Instead, genetic testing is tightly regulated under the Genetic Information Law of 2000 to protect privacy, ensure medical accuracy, and manage sensitive legal issues regarding family status and religious law.

Direct-to-consumer DNA tests are not sold directly in Israel. Some international companies may not ship to Israel, or may not allow samples to be shipped from there, due to the strict regulatory environment. However, this is a matter of regulation and market access, not a criminal ban.

How come that you know so much about Israel ?

Did you take a four year University course in the subject of Israel or something ?