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If you could preserve only one: Would you choose Iran or Israel?

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I'd like to see a final solution to cockamamie final solution ideas for Jews.

Totally predictable that this vile hateful topis would attract the Nazi brigade like flies to <deleted>.

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7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I'd like to see a final solution to cockamamie final solution ideas for Jews.

Totally predictable that this vile hateful topis would attract the Nazi brigade like flies to <deleted>.

Nobody should advocate an enforced emigration from Israel to America.

It should be entirely optional.

Provided with about USD One Million as an incentive, and for finding a better promised land, in the USA, let the people themselves decide.

Everybody would be happier.

In fact, the entire world would be happier.

And, The BB can remain where he is, for eternity.

5 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Nobody should advocate an enforced emigration from Israel to America.

It should be entirely optional.

Proved about USD One Million as an incentive, and for finding a better promised land, in the USA.

Everybody would be happier.

In fact, the entire world would be happier.

And, The BB can remain where he is, for eternity.

OK, so hypothetically you “solve” Israel overnight with one of these fantasy relocation schemes - mass-paying millions of people to leave their own country (which, by the way, trashes basic international norms from the outset).

Do you genuinely think the Iranian regime suddenly turns into a peaceful, well-behaved actor? That Hamas or Hezbollah just pack it in and open artisan coffee shops and bakeries ?

Do you think Iran suddenly stops backing armed groups, projecting power across borders, and suppressing dissent at home - all of which exist completely independently of Israel? Removing Israel doesn’t delete ideology, ambition, or internal repression.

Do you think Iran just drops support for the Houthis overnight?

Do you think control over the Strait of Hormuz and influence stretching toward the Gulf of Aden suddenly stops mattering?

Because this isn’t just flawed - it’s barely even a thought experiment. It has zero grounding in reality.

If anything, it shows how detached you are from reality: you’re not solving a conflict, you’re deleting one side and pretending the rest of the region instantly turns into Switzerland.

28 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

America NEEDS as many smart people as it can get.

Denounce your nationality first - you’ll single-handedly shift the bell curve.

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Does a tiny nation that didn't even exist 80 years ago, and now massacres 50,000 women and children, while the leader has international warrants out for war crimes and crimes against humanity, that then invades a neighboring country, committing more war crimes while confiscating 15% of the country's territory, while their 'settlers' commit endless illegal acts under international law in yet another region, deserve to exist?

Oh right, for 16 million people, more than half of which don't even live there, it's their homeland apparently, and must exist, for some strange reason.

Nahhh. Send in the UN and remap.

They've show that they don't deserve it, and the world would be better without it. 🙂

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20 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

OK, so hypothetically you “solve” Israel overnight with one of these fantasy relocation schemes - mass-paying millions of people to leave their own country (which, by the way, trashes basic international norms from the outset).

Do you genuinely think the Iranian regime suddenly turns into a peaceful, well-behaved actor? That Hamas or Hezbollah just pack it in and open artisan coffee shops and bakeries ?

Do you think Iran suddenly stops backing armed groups, projecting power across borders, and suppressing dissent at home - all of which exist completely independently of Israel? Removing Israel doesn’t delete ideology, ambition, or internal repression.

Do you think Iran just drops support for the Houthis overnight?

Do you think control over the Strait of Hormuz and influence stretching toward the Gulf of Aden suddenly stops mattering?

Because this isn’t just flawed - it’s barely even a thought experiment. It has zero grounding in reality.

If anything, it shows how detached you are from reality: you’re not solving a conflict, you’re deleting one side and pretending the rest of the region instantly turns into Switzerland.

You really cannot expect me to solve the ME problem in just one Topic, surely.

I have already made a great beginining.

I have not advocated forcing anyone to move anywhere.

I am sure that the world would pay an incentive to have great people move to the USA, if they wished to go.

And, the USA would absolutely benefit, as I have already stated.

As to the Iran situation: Allow Iran to live as it wishes, and the people there can have the government they deserve. I prefer democracy. However, I will not force the people there to NOT live in a democracy.


And, I will not try to change Iran from without...which would be a FOOL's errand. And, by the way, have you ever seen or heard of any fools in the WH?

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22 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Denounce your nationality first - you’ll single-handedly shift the bell curve.

I have not been living in my home country for about.....say.....50 years.

The bell curve is still the bell curve

The bell curve will always remain the same, by definition.

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34 minutes ago, Packer said:

Does a tiny nation that didn't even exist 80 years ago, and now massacres 50,000 women and children, while the leader has international warrants out for war crimes and crimes against humanity, that then invades a neighboring country, committing more war crimes while confiscating 15% of the country's territory, while their 'settlers' commit endless illegal acts under international law in yet another region, deserve to exist?

Oh right, for 16 million people, more than half of which don't even live there, it's their homeland apparently, and must exist, for some strange reason.

Nahhh. Send in the UN and remap.

They've show that they don't deserve it, and the world would be better without it. 🙂

My vote, personally?

I would choose to preserve Persia.

Mostly, due to my love of my Persian cats, and also my respect for the artisanal work of creating Persian rugs.

But, mostly, I respect the thousands of years of culture, continuous culture.

And, in addition, I still have great respect for the Iranian medical doctor, in Collegeville, PA,, and his family, I came to know and love, over 50 years ago.

Some day, maybe next life, I will visit Iran.

I hope it still exists, by then....IF.....and only if....

The BB does not get his way.

35 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Some day, maybe next life, I will visit Iran.

I hope it still exists, by then....IF.....and only if....

The BB does not get his way.

Of course it will.

A new kid on the block doesn't just show up, massacre 50,000 women and children, commit endless crimes against humanity, and get to continue its acts of pure evil.

The tide has already started to turn.

Less and less global friends with every single war crime and crime against humanity. 🙂

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26 minutes ago, Packer said:

The tide has already started to turn.

You BETTER believe it has....BIG TIME.....

I think even The BB must be aware, by now...but who knows what a Psychopath Believes......???

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45 minutes ago, Packer said:

Less and less global friends with every single war crime and crime against humanity. 🙂

This is also true, and absolutely true.

I am one less friend, for example.

7 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Both can survive peacefully alongside each other and were even trading partners until 1979.

Iran and Israel weren't just trade partners. They had full diplomatic relations with an Israeli embassy in Tehran. It's only the ideology of the rulers of the Islamic Republic that makes peaceful coexistence between Israel and Iran impossible.

8 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

No need to beat this dead horse, over and over, Sir.

We KNOW you, and many people like you, share your opinion.

This is PRECISELY why the world needs to make a change....

PDQ, if I might add.

Curious response. You asked for a clarification and when I gave it, you said I was beating a dead horse. The posts about Israel and war crimes and genocide have been done for so long they aren't just beating a dead horse but flogging a fossilized dinosaur. BeatingDino.gif.78ce9c28e80694a658fd966014e1fcc0.gif.31b371e57aa1879384285131a45f8ea4.gif

7 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

@JBChiangRai

I agree with all of the above , that is my anwser as well .

But as I said, I am completely bored with talking about it, so discuss it with E.P instead of me .

I'm very happy to take some of the pressure off Nick. He gets bullied quite a bit.

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7 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

I'm very happy to take some of the pressure off Nick. He gets bullied quite a bit.

Nick is very correct.

This is only a discusson.

One should not forget this.

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10 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

Iran and Israel weren't just trade partners. They had full diplomatic relations with an Israeli embassy in Tehran. It's only the ideology of the rulers of the Islamic Republic that makes peaceful coexistence between Israel and Iran impossible.

Down with Ideology!

I agree.

Other than this agreement, it is hard to agree with much else you say.

14 hours ago, KhunLA said:

There's the problem, as both think they are the chosen religion, and only they should exist.

Most Jews believe they are the only ones entitled to Jerusalem & Israel, along with their Zionist expansion of any areas nearby.

Muslims, well we all know, if not a follower of Islam, then an infidel, convert or death is your only option to exist.

Horrible people deserving of each other, IMHO, and someone please NUKE THEM BOTH coffee1

Stupid post, tell us your country of origin and I'll tell you what they did to survive, and when it comes to nukes and the use of them, iran would be a dusty place by now, while I'm sure sure that iran wouldn't hesitate to use nukes if the had them, and not only on israel, so keep sipping your coffee KhunnLA and leave the thinking to otheres.

11 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Please:

Do your best to STAY OFF the Thumb Down emoji.

But, since you used it, at least you had the courtesy to explain your use of it.

THANK YOU....!!!!!

Errr, why did I use the red thumb down? Errr, as someone who gets many of them, I kinda got to like them and wish for others to have some too, why should I keep them all to myself, and Oh, I also give them for anti Israel, anti-semite and dumb posts in general.

4 hours ago, Packer said:

Does a tiny nation that didn't even exist 80 years ago, and now massacres 50,000 women and children, while the leader has international warrants out for war crimes and crimes against humanity, that then invades a neighboring country, committing more war crimes while confiscating 15% of the country's territory, while their 'settlers' commit endless illegal acts under international law in yet another region, deserve to exist?

Oh right, for 16 million people, more than half of which don't even live there, it's their homeland apparently, and must exist, for some strange reason.

Nahhh. Send in the UN and remap.

They've show that they don't deserve it, and the world would be better without it. 🙂

So I take it that you're not, by any stretch of imagination, a fan of the the state of israel? right? or did i get you wrong?

5 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

You really cannot expect me to solve the ME problem in just one Topic, surely.

I have already made a great beginining.

I have not advocated forcing anyone to move anywhere.

I am sure that the world would pay an incentive to have great people move to the USA, if they wished to go.

And, the USA would absolutely benefit, as I have already stated.

As to the Iran situation: Allow Iran to live as it wishes, and the people there can have the government they deserve. I prefer democracy. However, I will not force the people there to NOT live in a democracy.


And, I will not try to change Iran from without...which would be a FOOL's errand. And, by the way, have you ever seen or heard of any fools in the WH?

Both you and the “fool in the WH” you’re taking shots at share one thing in common - a pretty impressive ability to overestimate the brilliance of your own ideas.

You say you’re not forcing anyone, but offering “incentives” to relocate entire populations isn’t some neutral suggestion - it’s just coercion with nicer branding. And calling it a “great beginning” doesn’t make it grounded in reality.

“Let Iran live as it wishes” also sounds neat, but it ignores the fact that regimes and populations aren’t the same thing, and that Iran’s actions outside its borders don’t just affect Iran.

So no..... you’re not expected to solve the Middle East in one post. But if you’re going to pitch big ideas, they should at least survive basic scrutiny.

4 hours ago, Packer said:

Of course it will.

A new kid on the block doesn't just show up, massacre 50,000 women and children, commit endless crimes against humanity, and get to continue its acts of pure evil.

The tide has already started to turn.

Less and less global friends with every single war crime and crime against humanity. 🙂

This “new kid on the block”… are you sure you’re not mixing it up with the Backstreet Boys and the way you “want it”? Because that’s not history.

Back in actual history, there exists real, physical evidence of early Israelite kingdoms.

The Tel Dan Stele (~9th century BCE) mentions the “House of David” - the first solid evidence of a Davidic dynasty. It was written by an enemy king, bragging about defeating Israel and Judah - so not exactly friendly propaganda.

Then there’s the Mesha Stele (~840 BCE), which clearly refers to the Kingdom of Israel and its ruler (Omri), again from an external source confirming Israel existed as a recognised kingdom.

And going even further back, the Merneptah Stele (~1208 BCE), found in Egypt, is widely considered the earliest known mention of “Israel” anywhere - referring to a people (they lived somewhere !!).

That’s not modern politics - that’s names literally carved in stone thousands of years ago.

6 hours ago, 1tooth said:

I would preserve Iran. With Israel gone, there would be no state sponsored pedo rings (Epstein and his replacement), peace in the middle east, an independent USA, England and Germany, less porn on our televisions, independent media. In fact, the world could possibly be a utopia. 🙂


Say wut ?
They literally have little boys dress and dance for them like women. Why would that be I wonder ? 🙄

On 4/24/2026 at 9:33 PM, Yellowtail said:

Does Iran have nuclear weapons ?

No , no anymore ..they have been Trumped.

8 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

The Settlers are not the IDF .

Because if the settlers are acting barbaric, I doubt the IDF has "just a few bad apples".

6 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

This “new kid on the block”… are you sure you’re not mixing it up with the Backstreet Boys and the way you “want it”? Because that’s not history.

The state of Israel was created less than 80 years ago. It is the new kid on the block. With big ambitions, that will ultimately fail. I wouldn't want to be there when overseas funding dries up. 🙂

12 hours ago, Packer said:

Oh right, for 16 million people, more than half of which don't even live there, it's their homeland apparently, and must exist, for some strange reason.

Thats why they need more land

A new study published on Sunday found that 27 percent of Israelis are considering moving out of the country, even though the majority of them believe mass emigration would be dangerous for the future of the state.

26% of Israeli Jews. More than a quarter, for those unable to help their young son with his math homework.

Of those who said they were considering leaving, 69% of Jews said they had no specific pull abroad — it was just a matter of getting out of the country. https://www.timesofisrael.com/some-1-in-4-israelis-considering-leaving-the-country-poll-finds/

It's such an evil place, they need to escape, even if it does mean the end of their nation.

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Are you Albert Einsteins grand child ?

Requesting personal information about a poster's family is against forum rules.

Stay on topic.

2 minutes ago, Packer said:

It's such an evil place, they need to escape, even if it does mean the end of their nation.

Requesting personal information about a poster's family is against forum rules.

Stay on topic.

You took it as a literal question 🙂☺️

OK, don't tell me whether youre Albert Einstein's grand child then 🌵

On 4/24/2026 at 6:18 PM, johng said:

Whats absurd about the question ?

The lack of choices. Can´t we just get rid of both?

26 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

The lack of choices. Can´t we just get rid of both?

Can we get rid of Sweden too?

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Can we get rid of Sweden too?

I thought you'd be into Swedish Meatballs.

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1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Thats why they need more land

Ah...so THIS is the reason they are continually at war, for seven decades....they need more....

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