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If you could preserve only one: Would you choose Iran or Israel?

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7 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Ah...so THIS is the reason they are continually at war, for seven decades....they need more....

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Just Judea and Gaza , its just a small piece of land

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This would have been a more honest topic if the op would have just wrote he hates Jews and they should be wiped off the face of the Earth.

C'mon @GammaGlobulin just be truthful to the forum and say the nazis were right.

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11 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Just Judea and Gaza , its just a small piece of land

So then:

How can we get rid of the Palestinians?

a. Shall we bake them in ovens?

b. Shall we enforce emigration to some place in Africa, which is now being hoped for?

You decide:

Will it be option A or B?

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9 minutes ago, Trippy said:

This would have been a more honest topic if the op would have just wrote he hates Jews and they should be wiped off the face of the Earth.

C'mon @GammaGlobulin just be truthful to the forum and say the nazis were right.

Are you saying: "This would have been a more honest topic if the OP had just written that he hates Jews"?

If this is your question:

The answer is "NO".

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2 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Are you saying: "This would have been a more honest topic if the OP had just written he hates Jews"?

If this is your question:

The answer is "NO".

I don't believe you. Stop hiding your true anti-Jew feelings and let them out. Be Honest!

7 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

So then:

How can we get rid of the Palestinians?

a. Shall we bake them in ovens?

b. Shall we enforce emigration to some place in Africa, which is now being hoped for?

You decide:

Will it be option A or B?

Just continue with the current genocide would be the better option

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9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Just continue with the current genocide would be the better option

Yes, but....

Such a sorry waste of bombs, smart bombs or dumb bombs.

Don't you think?

12 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Yes, but....

Such a sorry waste of bombs, smart bombs or dumb bombs.

Don't you think?

No, they are just old bombs approching their use by date and so need to be used up anyway

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2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

No, they are just old bombs approching their use by date and so need to be used up anyway

STILL....would it not be more cost-effective to just....

Ask the Palestinians to sell all their belongings, even their gold dental fillings, and dental crowns....to buy their own tickets, on some railroad to Africa?

This would be my preferred plan/solution.

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3 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

STILL....would it not be more cost-effective to just....

Ask the Palestinians to sell all their belongings, even their gold dental fillings, and dental crowns....to buy their own tickets, on some railroad to Africa?

This would be my preferred plan.

All plans need to be put in place together all at the same time , having just 1 plan failed last time

Just more

3 hours ago, Packer said:

The state of Israel was created less than 80 years ago. It is the new kid on the block. With big ambitions, that will ultimately fail. I wouldn't want to be there when overseas funding dries up. 🙂

It is not the newest "on the block" as both the Kingdom of Bahrain and the UAE were not established until 1971!

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Can we get rid of Sweden too?

Sure, I have no objection regarding that.

4 hours ago, Packer said:
10 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

This “new kid on the block”… are you sure you’re not mixing it up with the Backstreet Boys and the way you “want it”? Because that’s not history.

The state of Israel was created less than 80 years ago. It is the new kid on the block. With big ambitions, that will ultimately fail. I wouldn't want to be there when overseas funding dries up. 🙂

So you want to ignore the fact there was a recognised Kingdom of Israel long before countries like the UK or USA even existed - as evidenced by the Mesha Stele (~840 BCE), which explicitly refers to “Omri, king of Israel”.

And if you go back even further, the Merneptah Stele (~1208 BCE) already mentions “Israel” as a people. That’s not opinion - that’s archaeology.

Reducing everything to “the state is only 80 years old” is a massive oversimplification. Yes, the modern state of Israel (1948) is recent - but the historical presence of Israelite and Jewish societies in that region goes back nearly 3,000 years.

The history of that land is complex and doesn’t fit slogans. It includes the ancient kingdoms of Israel and Judah, followed by successive empires: the Assyrian Empire, Babylonian Empire, Achaemenid (Persian) Empire, Hellenistic Seleucid Empire, Roman Empire, Byzantine Empire, early Islamic caliphates, the Ottoman Empire, and finally the British Empire before the modern states emerged.

Across all of that, populations didn’t just vanish - they were displaced, returned, assimilated, and re-formed over centuries. Jews, Christians, and Muslims have all had deep, continuous or recurring connections to the region.

So yes - drawing a line on a map in 1948 is recent. But pretending the story starts there is just ignoring thousands of years of documented history.

That’s not a serious argument - it’s a convenient one used by those too lazy to understand history.

14 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

I'm very happy to take some of the pressure off Nick. He gets bullied quite a bit.

They @Chomper Higgot tend to ignore your articulate posts though and they seem to prefer bickering matches with me .

They @JBChiangRai would rather call me names than respond to the points you raised

Are we talking about preserving the population, their history and their culture? Or are we talking about preserving the government(s)? When talking about the governments / leadership, there's a lot of evidence pointing toward getting rid of them both. The general population, not so much.

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4 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

All plans need to be put in place together all at the same time , having just 1 plan failed last time

My dear Nick:

If you REALLY are looking for about 10 contradictory and opposing plans, all wrapped up in one bundle......

Then you should be onboard with TRUMP.

Trump is your man!

Trump will provide you with a dozen different conflicting plans, in just one week.

Or, is just ONE DOZEN not enough for you?

Please contact he White House for another dozen plans.

Take care, My Friend.

This world is going to ....

Wrack and Ruin....in a ....

HAND-BASKET.

See you on the other side, if all goes well, and according to plan.

That is, IF, I recover from my PTSD, due to Trump's election.....

Note: You should really move to Wisconsin, as I suggested previously.

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3 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Sure, I have no objection regarding that.

NOPE.....

We must draw the line at getting rid of Sweeden.

I am not up for that.

5 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

NOPE.....

We must draw the line at getting rid of Sweeden.

I am not up for that.

Lutefisk is a crime against humanity.

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36 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Lutefisk is a crime against humanity.

Recently, so many Crimes Against Humanity have been happening....

I can't even keep track of them....

Can YOU....???

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43 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Lutefisk is a crime against humanity.

It might be a crime....if...it were not for the fact that it tastes so good.....

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Give me a few of these, please.

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6 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Just Judea and Gaza , its just a small piece of land

Sorry.

I think you meant.....

"It's just a small piece of sand."

On 4/24/2026 at 6:48 PM, Evil Penevil said:

The legend of the Battle of Thermopylae has been a favorite of mine since I was a kid. Three hundred Spartans stood against an army of 300,000 Persians to save Greece and Western civilization.

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Israel and the IDF are playing the same role today that Leonidis and his men did in 480 BC. Many in the West live carefree lives because of the sacrifices of Israelis, especially the IDF, in combating terrorism.

The Israelis are bearing the brunt of the attempts by the Islamist government of Iran to restore the caliphate and bring the world under Muslim rule. Crushing Israel as the homeland of the world's Jews is the shared goal of the Iranian government and various Arab groups, but Israel has defended itself ably. Hopefully, the long-term outcome will be a happier one than at Thermopylae.

I've always remembered the epitaph to the Spartans carved on their burial mound at Thermopylae. It's the most concise and evocative statement on the duty to one's country I have ever encountered:

"Go tell the Spartans, stranger passing by,
that here obedient to their laws we lie."

Err one small problem in your thesis Sparta fell in the end - done in by paranoia and endless wars. Sound familiar ?

7 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Sorry.

I think you meant.....

"It's just a small piece of sand."

If we don't steal it someone else will. I might try that at Tesco today as I stuff a bottle of champers into my bag.

1 hour ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Err one small problem in your thesis Sparta fell in the end - done in by paranoia and endless wars. Sound familiar ?

No, it doesn't. I was using the stand of Leonidis and the 300 Spartans at Thermopylae as the comparison, not the entire history of the city-state of Sparta. But unlike the 300 Spartans, the 175,000 active-duty members of the IDF are still holding against massive odds after 78 years.

All of ancient Greece eventually fell, a fate shared by every country or empire in the ancient world. Most fell through conquest. Which country is going to conquer Israel?

4 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

No, it doesn't. I was using the stand of Leonidis and the 300 Spartans at Thermopylae as the comparison, not the entire history of the city-state of Sparta. But unlike the 300 Spartans, the 175,000 active-duty members of the IDF are still holding against massive odds after 78 years.

All of ancient Greece eventually fell, a fate shared by every country or empire in the ancient world. Most fell through conquest. Which country is going to conquer Israel?

Themseleves - they will fall on their own swords as the best and brightest leave the increasing ethno-fascist forever war state and the Haredi breed themsleves into a super majority sucking on ever expanding welfare checks + climate change in spades.

2 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Themseleves - they will fall on their own swords as the best and brightest leave the increasing ethno-fascist forever war state and the Haredi breed themsleves into a super majority sucking on ever expanding welfare checks + climate change in spades.

You are positing the State of Israel will fall apart from within. What sort of timeframe are you imagining? How long will it take before there is a Haredi super majority? Surely that has to take more than 100 years?

And how do you envision the end of Israel? Will all these Haredi just up and run, leaving Israel empty to whatever country or group wants to occupy it? Or will one of Israel's enemies finally defeat it?

15 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

You are positing the State of Israel will fall apart from within. What sort of timeframe are you imagining? How long will it take before there is a Haredi super majority? Surely that has to take more than 100 years?

And how do you envision the end of Israel? Will all these Haredi just up and run, leaving Israel empty to whatever country or group wants to occupy it? Or will one of Israel's enemies finally defeat it?

Gemini refused to answer the question but Chat had a stab - worse case scanario - Isarel remains isolated, the country and economy strained and conflict escalating in a region where US power no longer holds - Israel at 100 - 2047 - I won't be around to see that - if you don't have long locks , a black matchbox on your head and a 18th century hat you might find it a bit alien.

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8 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Gemini refused to answer the question but Chat had a stab - worse case scanario - Isarel remains isolated, the country and economy strained and conflict escalating in a region where US power no longer holds - Israel at 100 - 2047 - I won't be around to see that - if you don't have long locks , a black matchbox on your head and a 18th century hat you might find it a bit alien.

If Israel is going to last at least 100 more years, then that's definitely a problem for future generations. I think most Israelis are far more concerned about what happens tomorrow.

On 4/26/2026 at 7:22 PM, Evil Penevil said:

If Israel is going to last at least 100 more years, then that's definitely a problem for future generations. I think most Israelis are far more concerned about what happens tomorrow.

As if like magic You Tube delivers a video that can explain it far better than I can and Iran punctured forever the myth of Israeli invincibility. There is no turning back. Jews are smart people - when the smart people know the cost is too high the smart people leave and the Jews left ain't the Isarel most liberal Zionist Jews want to be a part of.

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The Moslems have left Iran already..they're now in London

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