Well done for taking this hate filled extremist off the streets, but worryingly, ““Unfortunately, we are seeing younger and younger individuals getting radicalised online,” she said. “Now one in five people that we deal with in counter-terrorism is a child.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/apr/30/neo-nazi-who-planned-mass-gun-attack-convicted-after-mi5-undercover-sting

Edited April 30Apr 30 by Chomper Higgot

Many need to belong to a group and this kid stumbled into the wrong group online. Many fanatical groups (woke, Nazi...) out there. In the end, I guess I would take a 1000 woke fools over this guy. Actually sad how we have become a society that just yells at the other team instead of trying to understand them. It is refreshing when people on AseanNow actually consider the why.

For example, why this kid became a menace to society instead of resorting to screaming insults at the other team. I'm not a Brit so it is hard for me to figure out the actual dynamics this kid faced. The media keeps sending vids that make life look dismal but I have a feeling it is not too different than 10 years ago and life is pretty normal.

1 hour ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

This nut-job was convicted, and rightly so, of planning attacks, but has not in fact carried out any; so for balance, here are a few of the thousands of attacks that were actually carried out; all by adherents to Islam

9/11 USA 2,996 dead 25,000 + injured

7/7  London bombs 52 dead 784 injured

2017 London Bridge, 8 killed 48 injured

2017 Barcelona, driver mows down 100 people, 14 dead 130 injured.

2022 Manchester concert bomb, 22 dead 119 injured

2015 Charlie Hebbo 12 dead

2019 London Bridge 2 dead 3 injured

2020 France stabbing and beheading 3 dead

2020 Samuel Paty, French teacher beheaded in the street

2015 Bataclan, Paris 130 dead 350 wounded

2015 Nice, France, truck rampage 86 dead 434 injured

2023 Arras France .. teacher stabbed to death

2016 Rouen France 85 year old priest has throat slit at alter of church

2023 Brussels, 2 Swedish football fans shot dead

2018 Carcassonne France 5 dead 15 injured

2024 Crocus hall Moscow: 140 dead 300 injured

2023 7th October Israel: 1,195 Killed 250 taken hostage.

2025 Feb 13 Munich: Car ramming, 37 injured 2 killed.

2025 Dec 14 Bondi: 15 killed 40 injured

You'r welcome

Some folk are only ever happy when they’re miserable.

Edited May 1May 1 by Chomper Higgot

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Some folk are only ever happy when they’re miserable.

Seems your comment is quite self reflective. I hope you continue to find happiness .

25 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Some folk are only ever happy when they’re miserable.

I dwell in a state of perpetual happiness, and an unshakable inner contentment; so you must be referring to your own sad and miserable disposition. Thanks for the info, I hope life improves for you. ✌️ 

What defines a nazi one wonders, as virtually everything that defines a nazi in history taught, is exactly what Israel does too. While once understanding that, they are both equally evil.

Edited May 1May 1 by ChaiyaTH

2 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

This nut-job was convicted, and rightly so, of planning attacks, but has not in fact carried out any; so for balance, here are a few of the thousands of attacks that were actually carried out; all by adherents to Islam

9/11 USA 2,996 dead 25,000 + injured

7/7  London bombs 52 dead 784 injured

2017 London Bridge, 8 killed 48 injured

2017 Barcelona, driver mows down 100 people, 14 dead 130 injured.

2022 Manchester concert bomb, 22 dead 119 injured

2015 Charlie Hebbo 12 dead

2019 London Bridge 2 dead 3 injured

2020 France stabbing and beheading 3 dead

2020 Samuel Paty, French teacher beheaded in the street

2015 Bataclan, Paris 130 dead 350 wounded

2015 Nice, France, truck rampage 86 dead 434 injured

2023 Arras France .. teacher stabbed to death

2016 Rouen France 85 year old priest has throat slit at alter of church

2023 Brussels, 2 Swedish football fans shot dead

2018 Carcassonne France 5 dead 15 injured

2024 Crocus hall Moscow: 140 dead 300 injured

2023 7th October Israel: 1,195 Killed 250 taken hostage.

2025 Feb 13 Munich: Car ramming, 37 injured 2 killed.

2025 Dec 14 Bondi: 15 killed 40 injured

You'r welcome

Yet another attemp at a Red Herring Fallacy - the post is about a neo-Nazi but of course you couldn't resist bringing it back to Muslim extremists.

Just so you can perhaps get away from these obvious deflections - the vast majority of sensible people abhor both - Muslim extremists AND Neo- Nazi's.

One man's "neo-nazi", is anoyher man's freedom fighter.

Meanwhile, OpenAI is being sued in Canada for offering guidance to a mass shooter. Also this, from CNN (through RT)

Eight out of ten leading AI chatbots willingly assisted users in planning violent attacks, including school shootings, religious bombings, and assassinations, according to a joint investigation by CNN and the Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH).

Researchers posing as troubled teenagers tested ten popular chatbots, including ChatGPT, Google Gemini, Meta AI, and DeepSeek. In hundreds of exchanges, the AI assistants provided detailed guidance on target locations, weapons procurement, and attack methodologies.

‘Happy shooting!’ AI chatbots eager to help plan mass violence – report — RT World News

Happy Shooting, indeed...

Edited May 1May 1 by impulse

Just now, johnnybangkok said:

Yet another attemp at a Red Herring Fallacy - the post is about a neo-Nazi but of course you couldn't resist bringing it back to Muslim extremists.

Perhaps you’d be kind enough to point out which of the terrorist incidents I mentioned are a fallacy ??

And the post is about potential acts of terrorist, so not at all off topic to mention real, as opposed to potential, acts of terrorism, unless, of course, you support real terrorism but abhor potential terrorism.

Just now, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Perhaps you’d be kind enough to point out which of the terrorist incidents I mentioned are a fallacy ??

And the post is about potential acts of terrorist, so not at all off topic to mention real, as opposed to potential, acts of terrorism, unless, of course, you support real terrorism but abhor potential terrorism.

As expected, you obviously don't understand my post. The 'terrorist incidents' aren't the fallacy - the fact you are bringing them up in a post about a neo- Nazi is the Red Herring Fallacy I'm talking about. Here I'll help you since obviously Googling is hard for you;-

'A red herring fallacy is an attempt to redirect a conversation away from its original topic . A red herring is used by introducing an irrelevant piece of information that distracts the reader or listener.'

And no, the post isn't about 'potential acts of terrorist (sic)' it's about a specific neo-Nazi, not terrorism in general.

Just now, johnnybangkok said:

As expected, you obviously don't understand my post. The 'terrorist incidents' aren't the fallacy - the fact you are bringing them up in a post about a neo- Nazi is the Red Herring Fallacy I'm talking about. Here I'll help you since obviously Googling is hard for you;-

'A red herring fallacy is an attempt to redirect a conversation away from its original topic . A red herring is used by introducing an irrelevant piece of information that distracts the reader or listener.'

And no, the post isn't about 'potential acts of terrorist (sic)' it's about a specific neo-Nazi, not terrorism in general.

The OP is about a conviction for preparing acts of terrorism, and you don’t get to decide on this forum what is relevant to the post and what is not; and acts of terrorism most certainly are relevant, even if they don’t suit your left wing narrative.

The most obvious deflection is actually the original post, posted from the Guardian by a non UK citizen, designed to deflect attention away from the appalling antisemitic attacks running wild in the UK.

This extreme right wing nut job, Alfie Coleman, has just been convicted, but was arrested in 2023, more than two and a half years ago; whereas the attempted murder of Jews in Golders Green, took place only two days ago; violent antisemitism is spiralling out of control in the UK, with a spate of arson attacks on Jewish property, the burning of 4 Hatzola ambulances, and only last October the killing of two Jews at Manchester Synagogue with a car ramming.

However, the left wing extremists, especially on this forum, remain silent about the attacks on Jews, but one conviction of a right wing extremist, and they are popping corks and doing cartwheels.

Also for your info, Neo-Nazi is the label applied by the Guardian, and adopted by the BBC, Sky, the OP, and all the other usual suspects; the CPS and the Met described him as an extreme right-wing terrorist, which he obviously is, and will hopefully be incarcerated indefinitely.

Just now, Eloquent pilgrim said:

a spate of arson attacks

Lets not forget the now started trial at the Old Bailey of the 3 Ukrainians accused of attacks against Kier Starmer ..kept in the high security Belmarsh prison for over a year waiting for their day/s in court.

The Government has just raised the terrorism threat level in the UK  from substantial to severe, and it is not anything to do with this extreme right wing terrorist Alfie Coleman; you only get one guess as to who it is to do with ??

The decision to raise the threat level to the second-highest threat level was taken by security and intelligence experts from the Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre (JTAC) and independently of ministers, the government said. The UK was last placed on a “severe” level in November 2021 after the murder of David Amess MP, by Islamic terrorist  Ali Harbi Ali.

• Critical: an attack is highly likely in the near future

• Severe: an attack is highly likely

• Substantial: an attack is likely

• Moderate: an attack is possible, but not likely

• Low: an attack is highly unlikely

Just now, Eloquent pilgrim said:

The most obvious deflection is actually the original post, posted from the Guardian by a non UK citizen, designed to deflect attention away from the appalling antisemitic attacks running wild in the UK.

Utter hogwash.

The OP is a report from a credible source of an actual conviction in a court of law.

It stands by itself and is not a deflection from anything.

The deflection in this thread was delivered by you and you continue in your efforts to achieve that deflection.

The convicted Neo-Nazi is a rightwing extremist, his defense council made no arguments of him suffering mental illness or diminished responsibility on the grounds of being what you refer to as a ‘nut job’.

Just now, Eloquent pilgrim said:

The Government has just raised the terrorism threat level in the UK  from substantial to severe, and it is not anything to do with this extreme right wing terrorist Alfie Coleman; you only get one guess as to who it is to do with ??

The decision to raise the threat level to the second-highest threat level was taken by security and intelligence experts from the Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre (JTAC) and independently of ministers, the government said. The UK was last placed on a “severe” level in November 2021 after the murder of David Amess MP, by Islamic terrorist  Ali Harbi Ali.

• Critical: an attack is highly likely in the near future

• Severe: an attack is highly likely

• Substantial: an attack is likely

• Moderate: an attack is possible, but not likely

• Low: an attack is highly unlikely

We should have a thread on that.

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

We should have a thread on that.

https://bbc.com/news/articles/cq6p4pz6p62o

Here you go, although I noticed you didn't have a guess as to why the level has been raised

Edited May 1May 1 by Eloquent pilgrim

Just now, Eloquent pilgrim said:

https://bbc.com/news/articles/cq6p4pz6p62o

Here you go, although I noticed you didn't have a guess as to why the level has been raised

Start a thread on it.

This isn’t that thread.

Just now, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Also for your info, Neo-Nazi is the label applied by the Guardian, and adopted by the BBC, Sky, the OP, and all the other usual suspects; the CPS and the Met described him as an extreme right-wing terrorist, which he obviously is, and will hopefully be incarcerated indefinitely.

Maybe the Nazi and Neo Nazi paraphernalia discover in his bedroom was a clue, or his contacts with the Neo-Nazi group ‘Patriotic Alternative’ are clues to him being a Neo-Nazi:

“Police found £2,500 in savings and a device to detect bugs and secret cameras in his bedside drawer, a rock with a Swastika on a table, a Black Sun flag associated with neo-Nazism on the wall, and various extreme right wing books.

An analysis of his electronic devices revealed that Coleman had emailed the far-right white-supremacist organisation Patriotic Alternative saying he "would like to start participating in activism".

https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2026-04-30/young-neo-nazi-found-guilty-of-planning-mass-gun-attack

https://hopenothate.org.uk/case-files-patriotic-alternative/

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

The OP is a report from a credible source of an actual conviction in a court of law.

It stands by itself and is not a deflection from anything.

Who are you trying to kid!

So you just happened to dig out a story about a right wing potential terrorist in the same week that the Islamists have been at it again? In the same week the UK has raised the terror threat because of all the Islamist attacks?

Deflection at it's most blatant.

Just now, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Oh, apologies. I forgot that you can never countenance any criticism of Islam; even when you start a thread about acts of terrorism, knowing that Islamist terrorists are responsible for an overwhelming majority of terrorist atrocities in both the UK and Europe.

Much better to deflect from the present, and no doubt ongoing Islamist terrorist attacks, by highlighting the planned, but not committed, offences of a right wing extremist that took place in 2023

It appears you forgot what thread you were posting in.

I started this thread on the conviction in a court of law of a specific individual, an extreme rightwing Neo-Nazi.

Now if you wish to be offended that a thread can exist that discusses an extreme rightwing Neo Nazi without wandering off into unrelated terrorism by others then perhaps you’ve also forgotten that when it comes to Nazis and Neo-Nazis they might share your hatred of Muslims, but they eventually get around to their core hatred of Jews.

By all means start a thread discussing Islamist terrorism, this isn’t it.

Just now, CG1 Blue said:

Who are you trying to kid!

So you just happened to dig out a story about a right wing potential terrorist in the same week that the Islamists have been at it again? In the same week the UK has raised the terror threat because of all the Islamist attacks?

Deflection at it's most blatant.

I didn’t dig out anything, it’s a current report of the conviction of a rightwing extremist, Neo-Nazi terrorist.

He’s not a ‘potential terrorist’, he’s a convicted terrorist.

He was convicted at the Old Bailey on April

30, 2026 - Yesterday.

Current news.

Edited May 1May 1 by Chomper Higgot

Just now, CG1 Blue said:

Who are you trying to kid!

So you just happened to dig out a story about a right wing potential terrorist in the same week that the Islamists have been at it again? In the same week the UK has raised the terror threat because of all the Islamist attacks?

Deflection at it's most blatant.

Indeed, it is so blatantly obvious. Jews are suffering unprecedented levels of abuse, violent assaults, arson and murder in the UK, and he pops corks about this right wing extremist’s planned acts of terror from more than 2 years ago; fodder for all his left-wing fawning underlings on here. Hilarious.

Just now, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Indeed, it is so blatantly obvious. Jews are suffering unprecedented levels of abuse, violent assaults, arson and murder in the UK, and he pops corks about this right wing extremist’s planned acts of terror from more than 2 years ago; fodder for all his left-wing fawning underlings on here. Hilarious.

What who me ? Never....I care about the latest cause.

I even updated my Facebook photo to reflect that.

Sincerely mr coy

11 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

This nut-job was convicted, and rightly so, of planning attacks, but has not in fact carried out any; so for balance, here are a few of the thousands of attacks that were actually carried out; all by adherents to Islam

9/11 USA 2,996 dead 25,000 + injured

7/7  London bombs 52 dead 784 injured

2017 London Bridge, 8 killed 48 injured

2017 Barcelona, driver mows down 100 people, 14 dead 130 injured.

2022 Manchester concert bomb, 22 dead 119 injured

2015 Charlie Hebbo 12 dead

2019 London Bridge 2 dead 3 injured

2020 France stabbing and beheading 3 dead

2020 Samuel Paty, French teacher beheaded in the street

2015 Bataclan, Paris 130 dead 350 wounded

2015 Nice, France, truck rampage 86 dead 434 injured

2023 Arras France .. teacher stabbed to death

2016 Rouen France 85 year old priest has throat slit at alter of church

2023 Brussels, 2 Swedish football fans shot dead

2018 Carcassonne France 5 dead 15 injured

2024 Crocus hall Moscow: 140 dead 300 injured

2023 7th October Israel: 1,195 Killed 250 taken hostage.

2025 Feb 13 Munich: Car ramming, 37 injured 2 killed.

2025 Dec 14 Bondi: 15 killed 40 injured

You'r welcome

So, 45,000 less than the number of (only) women and children killed by non-Muslim terrorists since late 2023, then. 🙂

Just now, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Indeed, it is so blatantly obvious. Jews are suffering unprecedented levels of abuse, violent assaults, arson and murder in the UK, and he pops corks about this right wing extremist’s planned acts of terror from more than 2 years ago; fodder for all his left-wing fawning underlings on here. Hilarious.

Pop your own cork and start a thread on it.

The arrest was two years ago, the conviction was yesterday.

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

I didn’t dig out anything, it’s a current report of the conviction of a rightwing extremist, Neo-Nazi terrorist.

He’s not a ‘potential terrorist’, he’s a convicted terrorist.

He was convicted at the Old Bailey on April

30, 2026 - Yesterday.

Current news.

So why did you choose to start a thread about this particular conviction? Loads of people are convicted every day.

It's pure whataboutery, to deflect from the ongoing Islamist terror crisis.

Just now, CG1 Blue said:

So why did you choose to start a thread about this particular conviction? Loads of people are convicted every day.

It's pure whataboutery, to deflect from the ongoing Islamist terror crisis.

Right, let's just ignore the news because we don't like it. I'd say your post is a poor attempt at deflection from the danger of the violence of the extreme right.

7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It appears you forgot what thread you were posting in.

I started this thread on the conviction in a court of law of a specific individual, an extreme rightwing Neo-Nazi.

Now if you wish to be offended that a thread can exist that discusses an extreme rightwing Neo Nazi without wandering off into unrelated terrorism by others then perhaps you’ve also forgotten that when it comes to Nazis and Neo-Nazis they might share your hatred of Muslims, but they eventually get around to their core hatred of Jews.

By all means start a thread discussing Islamist terrorism, this isn’t it.

You started a thread about the conviction of the right wing extremist neo-Nazi, Alfie Coleman, for preparing acts of terrorism, so it is perfectly reasonable for anyone to make comments about any other terrorism.

There is not much more to say about Coleman, his offence was more than two and a half years ago, he has rightly been convicted, and I have already said he should be incarcerated indefinitely.

It is not off topic or unreasonable to talk about terrorism in relation to your thread; but of course, as always, you become traumatised if Islam is criticised in any way; whether it is about Islamic terrorism, the subjugation of women, the persecution of gays, the female genital mutilation of girls as young as one year old, or the paedophilia of middle aged uncles marrying prepubescent nieces, you spit your dummy out immediately, with cries of bigot or Islamophobe, but never address the criticism directly, as you will fail to do agin here.

Maybe you should not have started a thread with acts of terrorism as its core issue, if you did not want it to be reasonably expanded upon.

You are not from the UK and do not live there, but if you were genuinely interested in news from there, instead of trawling the extreme left wing comic, the Guardian, for titbits of a crime committed over two years ago, you would be addressing the most significant news from there, which is the appalling rise in violent antisemitic attacks against the UK’s Jewish community.

3 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

So why did you choose to start a thread about this particular conviction? Loads of people are convicted every day.

It's pure whataboutery, to deflect from the ongoing Islamist terror crisis.

Because it’s current news of the terrorism conviction of an extreme rightwing Neo Nazi, it’s absolutely not something that happens every day.

The pure whataboutary you refer to is on the part of those inserting any other terrorism into this thread that is not at all related to the OP.