1 hour ago, 0ffshore360 said:

pfft! Don't rock the boat? Which boat ? The 2000 year old one or the more recent one that floats?

If had my choice, I rock the boat Greta was on. But I would play the theme song from Exodus and Hatikvah rather than ABBA's greatest hits. If I were in a good mood, I might play the soundtrack from Fiddler on the Roof.

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

It's an inflammatory graphic intend to make people that hate Israel hate Israel even more.

So just up your ally to post that.

The fact is that Israel has no such grand empirical intentions as that. Israel was not founded as a colonial project. It was founded as a LIBERATION project.

I hope you're not suggesting that I posted the graphic! That was our good friend Nick.

However, it's probable that Israel is actively planning on LIBERATING slices of their neighbours'. There was, ahem, the Golan Heights, and the Southern Lebanon occupation which, by all accounts, is v2.0.

6 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I hope you're not suggesting that I posted the graphic! That was our good friend Nick.

However, it's probable that Israel is actively planning on LIBERATING slices of their neighbours'. There was, ahem, the Golan Heights, and the Southern Lebanon occupation which, by all accounts, is v2.0.

Nothing like that crazy map and all justified (accept that or not) out of security concerns. Israel is a a tiny country and needs to win every war or it's finished. I get it that Israel demonizers want it finished. Israelis have a different idea about that just as Ukrainians do.

2 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

You and several other posters are in need of some context, but it won't be easy to try to help you understand, so I'll include some appropriate background music.

"The Great Israeli Real Estate Event 2026" is a private, invitation-only event aimed at Jews who want to make Aliyah, i.e., immigrate to Israel. Aliyah has been an important component of Judaism for centuries and many Jews view it as a spiritual duty.

Since only Jews can make Aliyah, it wouldn't make sense to invite non-Jews, nor would any non-Jews have a reason for attending. Many of the Jews who do attend are elderly and want to spend their last years in Israel, then be buried there.

The thing is, these events are about more than just property sales. They involve the entire process of Aliyah from beginning to end. Information is available about burial in Israel and some Jews attend solely for that reason. Most attendees are not interested in West Bank settlements, but are looking for comfortable apartments in "Anglo" neighborhoods or even assisted living.

There's nothing sinister about this, other than in some people's imaginations. The West Bank aspect does make the event more controversial, but not all Jews regard the West Bank as "stolen" land. And I'll stop now, because a full discussion of land ownership in Israel is beyond this thread.

And I would answer that antisemitism has for over 2,000 years come from the hearts and minds of those who hate Jews for being Jews. The excuses given for this hatred have changed over the years; the hatred has remained constant.

What a load of twaddle, selling anything in the Occupied Territories is illegal by International Law, as the Israeli's well know, dressing up a pig in religious costume no-matter who your imaginary friend in the sky is still a pig dressed up.

Okaaay. Now, you warmongers, tell us what exactly you think would happen if Israel stood down all its IDF forces and brought them home? While we're at it, let's add Gaza as a second component. And for a third, remove IDF from the West Bank. And what would happen if all those restrictive checkpoints vanished? I'm not trolling, this is a serious question.

If you think Arabs would "conquer" Israel in a New York minute, do you not think Israel has any allies to rein them in? Is profitable trade with Israel not enough to rein them in?

While we're at it, would it be any more than a loss of face for West Bank colonists to pull up stakes and move back where they're wanted?

17 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Okaaay. Now, you warmongers, tell us what exactly you think would happen if Israel stood down all its IDF forces and brought them home? While we're at it, let's add Gaza as a second component. And for a third, remove IDF from the West Bank. And what would happen if all those restrictive checkpoints vanished? I'm not trolling, this is a serious question.

If you think Arabs would "conquer" Israel in a New York minute, do you not think Israel has any allies to rein them in? Is profitable trade with Israel not enough to rein them in?

While we're at it, would it be any more than a loss of face for West Bank colonists to pull up stakes and move back where they're wanted?

An insane proposal.

9 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I think that I ll wait until the project is complete and invest in properties on the Red sea or where Kuwait is now

Ha ha , wasn't being serious .

The reality is ....................

5 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

You and several other posters are in need of some context, but it won't be easy to try to help you understand, so I'll include some appropriate background music.

"The Great Israeli Real Estate Event 2026" is a private, invitation-only event aimed at Jews who want to make Aliyah, i.e., immigrate to Israel. Aliyah has been an important component of Judaism for centuries and many Jews view it as a spiritual duty.

Since only Jews can make Aliyah, it wouldn't make sense to invite non-Jews, nor would any non-Jews have a reason for attending. Many of the Jews who do attend are elderly and want to spend their last years in Israel, then be buried there.

The thing is, these events are about more than just property sales. They involve the entire process of Aliyah from beginning to end. Information is available about burial in Israel and some Jews attend solely for that reason. Most attendees are not interested in West Bank settlements, but are looking for comfortable apartments in "Anglo" neighborhoods or even assisted living.

There's nothing sinister about this, other than in some people's imaginations. The West Bank aspect does make the event more controversial, but not all Jews regard the West Bank as "stolen" land. And I'll stop now, because a full discussion of land ownership in Israel is beyond this thread.

I thank you for your explanations and i want to point out, that I fully understand and respect a person who Is aware that he has reached the last few years of his existence and therefore wants to spend them in a place, where his ancestors used to live and where his culture, religion and belief origins from.

But if I understood the OP right, this was not about elderly people who want to make Aliyah but more likely an event where land and property were offered to potential buyers, which does not belong to those who were trying to sell it.

And as it was only offered to Jewish people, it is very clear that it is nothing else but another attempt of expansion of Israel like it happened so many times in the past and every time being illegal.

Now, if you have any reliable information that this was just a big misunderstanding and the whole thing was about assisted Aliya of terminal Jews to places within the internationally accepted borders of Israel, then please inform us all.

But if you knowingly misinformed us with a fake story about Aliya, some people might think you are Alyah, err, sorry, I meant, a liar.

50 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Okaaay. Now, you warmongers, tell us what exactly you think would happen if Israel stood down all its IDF forces and brought them home?

Palestinians would re arm and begin attacking Israel again .

Same as when Israel left Gaza in 2000 whenever and let them Govern themselves.

They re armed and Oct 7 th was the result .

They will keep fighting and attacking

5 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

And I would answer that antisemitism has for over 2,000 years come from the hearts and minds of those who hate Jews for being Jews. The excuses given for this hatred have changed over the years; the hatred has remained constant.

Don´t fool yourself. There is no hate without reason. The reason might be irrational, wrong or imaginary but there is always one.

I have no idea why Jews were or are hated but I can imagine quite well, why some people might hate Israel right now and that has nothing to do with Israel being Israel but more likely with Israel intentionally slaughtering Tens of Thousands of innocent women and children while still playing the victim card and pathetically trying to make the world believe that was out of self-defense and screeching "anti-semitism".

3 minutes ago, Somjot said:

I have no idea why Jews were or are hated

Have you been around any? 🙂

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Palestinians would re arm and begin attacking Israel again .

Same as when Israel left Gaza in 2000 whenever and let them Govern themselves.

They re armed and Oct 7 th was the result .

They will keep fighting and attacking

That is what people do, when their land is stolen and their family is murdered.

What you wrote are the complaints of the thieving and murdering party.

28 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Ha ha , wasn't being serious .

The reality is ....................

And the audacity of that little red spot to cause so many conflicts and death in most of the huge green area.

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Israel is a a tiny country and needs to win every war or it's finished.

So basically you are saying: "Without tiny Israel there weren`t any wars."

Interesting.

7 minutes ago, Packer said:

Have you been around any? 🙂

Off course he hasn't , Germany killed them all in his Country and surrounding area

He wants to finish them off , finish Uncle Adolfs work

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3 minutes ago, Somjot said:

So basically you are saying: "Without tiny Israel there weren`t any wars."

Interesting.

Straw man garbage.

9 minutes ago, Somjot said:

And the audacity of that little red spot to cause so many conflicts and death in most of the huge green area.

You know absolutely nothing about the history there.

15 minutes ago, Somjot said:

That is what people do, when their land is stolen and their family is murdered.

What you wrote are the complaints of the thieving and murdering party.

You love Jews.

When they're dead.

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Israel is a a tiny country and needs to win every war or it's finished.

I know several tiny countries that never have been in a war.

Maybe Israel get involved in so many wars because they either instigate them, or they are hated for a very good reason.

4 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

If had my choice, I rock the boat Greta was on.

Would you? You are proudly presenting the flag of a democratic country which debated the right to rape in their government and just issued a race based death sentence law and a disabled young women bothers you?

33 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You love Jews.

When they're dead.

You're spewing hyperbolic paranoid hate-filled garbage.

Similar to those that had a meltdown when a small gate that isn't in front of a building that isn't a synagogue wasn't meaningfully damaged in London. 🙂

38 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Off course he hasn't , Germany killed them all in his Country and surrounding area

He wants to finish them off , finish Uncle Adolfs work

That is as much true as your BS about the conflicts and who started them.

There are more than 200.000 living in Germany right now.

Your uncle Bibi is much better in finishing people off, especially women and children.

Just now, Packer said:

You're spewing hyperbolic paranoid hate-filled garbage.

Similar to those that had a meltdown when a small gate that isn't in front of a building that isn't a synagogue wasn't meaningfully damaged in London. 🙂

And he is constantly conflating Jews with Israelis.

44 minutes ago, Somjot said:

So basically you are saying: "Without tiny Israel there weren`t any wars."

Interesting.

Israel will likely not get to see its 100th birthday. It will lose the vital support it needs to exist, there won't be enough Jews there, and the ones that do will be less psychotic than the ones that are there or support it now.

In the future without Israel, I feel that most would agree, Jews and Israelis included, the world (specifically the Middle-East) will be more peaceful, humanity as a whole will be safer, and the world as a whole will be a nicer place for humanity. 🙂

9 minutes ago, Packer said:

Israel will likely not get to see its 100th birthday. It will lose the vital support it needs to exist, there won't be enough Jews there, and the ones that do will be less psychotic than the ones that are there or support it now.

In the future without Israel, I feel that most would agree, Jews and Israelis included, the world (specifically the Middle-East) will be more peaceful, humanity as a whole will be safer, and the world as a whole will be a nicer place for humanity. 🙂

I have no problem with Israel one day seeing it`s 1000th birthday.

But it must stop being that racist apartheid land stealing state it is right now. These archaic properties are way out of time and have no place in a modern world as they constantly create conflict in the area and force the Modern Western states into double standard and betrayal of their own laws and rules.

14 minutes ago, Somjot said:

it must stop being that racist apartheid land

Impossible as it is the homeland for jews.

Though more Jews wanting to flee from there than move there, and Jewry to be soon outnumbered by other religions from the river to the sea wasn't part of the plan.

Perhaps attempting to sell land to American Jewry that is illegally occupied under international law and slaughtering 50,000 non-Jewry women and children could help to change that for a while. Though no animals would be that evil, right. 🙂

7 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Palestinians would re arm and begin attacking Israel again .

Same as when Israel left Gaza in 2000 whenever and let them Govern themselves.

They re armed and Oct 7 th was the result .

They will keep fighting and attacking

You’re not understanding why.

7 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

You’re not understanding why.

Its quite obvious why .

Its the basics of the conflict .

16 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Its quite obvious why .

Its the basics of the conflict .

So explain why the Palestinians do this?

15 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

So explain why the Palestinians do this?

Its the basics of the conflict .

They ve been shouting it in our faces for years

"From the River to the sea"

Its written in their Manifesto .

Islamic Palestine to replace Jewish Israel in its entirety .

Israel to be removed completely